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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 4 Nov 2001.
Re: How to sort out an ASCII diagram. Boston Public Library

Re: How to sort out an ASCII diagram. Boston Public Library floor plan.

* CeeJay <new...@ceejay.cjb.nOt> [2001-10-31 21:16]:
> A year or two is not ages , and it's not THAT incorrect .. it's just
> redundent code as PRE also specifies a teletype/monospaced font.
> If you look at the banner on your webpage you will see that I cleverly
> used the fact that <TT> does not use the same kind of formatting as
> <PRE> but merely changes the font to a monospaced.

 Well, that banner was done by you, I wouldn't go and tweak your code
*g*  On the other hand, I think I've done it in the new version of my
page....

> It would be the same kind of redundency if you specified a stylesheet
> that set the font to monospaced as it would be if you used <TT> 's
> even if you had used <PRE>.

 Yep, I guess so.  Stylesheet setting such stuff aren't really correctly
used.  That would be, specifying a font for <tt> or <pre> tags would be
correct, but using a <div style=""> to get a monospaced font is wrong.
But hey - we are all just idealists and perfectionists who live in the
brave new world[tm]  :)

>> Rather report that brokenness
> 
> Yeah like Microsoft ever listed to their users .. ha!

 Well, stick with the second part of that sentence, then.  If they don't
listen up to their users they aren't worth to have any.

>>and let the users decide if they want to support such stupid software....
> 
> I like this argument though... Yes dont use software that will not
> obey standards .. (uhh great argument from a guy that still uses
> Outlook Express .. silly CeeJay)

 ;)  Mankind sticks to its habits.

> Ohh finally a page worth seeing !

 Mine, or the banner?  ;)

> Btw .. should you use :
> PRE (TT)
> Ascii-art
> (/TT) /PRE
> 
> instead of all thoose ;nbsp 's
> 
> Practice what you preach !

 Well, it came down to my habits and old stuff - a new version of that
page (and the whole site!) is underway and will be released this
week^Wmonth^Wyear - I promise.

 Nice to see you still around, CeeJay.

 obASCII:
   __  __           _________
   \ \ \ \         / _______/     the new logo for the above mentioned
    \ \ \ \       / /             broken page, and while pasting it in
     \ \ \ \_____/_/______        here I found the thing you mentioned:
   __ \ \ \______________/            s/ /&nbsp;/g;
  / /  \ \     / /                I'll remove that, of course.  Don't
 / /____\ \   / /                 know what I was thinking when I did
/__________\ /_/                  that...  *wonders*

 So long!
Alfie
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Subject: Re: How to sort out an ASCII diagram. Boston Public Library floor plan.
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