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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 23 May 1994.
Re: VOTING: rec.arts.ascii (MODERATED)

Re: VOTING: rec.arts.ascii (MODERATED)

>ROW> What is the big appeal of a.a-a?

>- Freedom for all comers.
>- Lots of pictures.
>- Lots of requests :-)
>- Great enjoyment for many users ( regrettably not all ).
>- The potential to become one of the top ten groups.

Not what I meant. Every time someone says "replace a.a-a with r.a.a (m)"
you jump in and say that a.a-a is not being replaced. If r.a.a (mod) does
pass, then I would surely consider it a move. The fact that a.a-a would
not be deleted means it could be put to other use. Maybe a good opportunity?

>REQUESTS, REQUESTS, REQUESTS: Battle cry of the moderationists.

And why not? If the voter doesn't enjoy reading requests, then why
not take the opportunity to vote for a moderated group? I did ;).

[see my other post somewhere for why I am against requests to an extent]

>> It's actually a very standardized way to deal with such things as FAQs.
>> Many groups do this because it's efficiant.

>Many groups ?  Name them.

Geez, pop onto misc.answers (or that FAQ ftp site which I can't think of
at the moment). I can only imagine that "most" (purely imaginative use of
the word) groups try their best to cut down on repeat *anythings* via
a FAQ. No?

>Standardized ?  Which standard is that then ?

Standard: usual, regular (thesaurus alternatives)
If still confused, consult previous responce.


>To the requester each and every request is _new_ and quite normal.
>Popular subjects are bound to be requested frequently but by
>_ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PEOPLE_ who simply have not seen all the other
>Newcomers are arriving in the group continuously and at a great rate.

Don't forget this is a *personal* vote. In other words, people vote
for what -they- would like to happen, not for what someone else might
like. I'm quite aware of why requests are popular, and why the same
ones apear so often. I never implied otherwise.

>I consider that nonsense - I've been reading this group since about
>late September 1993 - as soon as I heard about it - and I simply do
>not agree with you - so there !  :-) :-)

Mistake in that paragraph: you acknowledge that we have different *opinions*
and yet you call my statement "nonsense". How can my own personal opion
be nonsense?  (I hope I dont need to make a .sig with a disclaimer in it ;)

>Well you had better post the alt.ascii-art Charter because I am sure

I was not aware that an alt. group required a Charter? However, I feel
quite comfident in stating that a.a-a was not created with requests in mind.
Not too much of an assumption I assume.

>" It's my ball and if you
>don't play to my rules I'm taking my ball away. "

Well, thats fair enough. But how your relating that to the CFV of
r.a.a (mod) I'm not entirely sure ;).

>also is not very charitable reflection on all the stuff that has
>been and continues to be posted here. It is not by any means rubbish
>and many others have praised the content of alt.ascii-art.

I dont like it when people twist my words.

>think of it I have never seen you answer a request. Why do you leave
>it all to other folks ?

Because my ascii collection consists of maybe two dozen pics, and it
would take me quite a bit of work to upload them here (seriously: copy
to ram - gzip it - set system to binary - upload picture - gunzip it -
find request post again - inport pic into reply = why would I go through
that when there are others who can grab something from their FTP collection
in less than 30 seconds? (assuming they know the file names)).

>> Your quite free to stick around a.a-a and have it as a request for
>> ascii pictures.

>That's big of you to grant me that freedom.

There you go twisting my words again. You're not a politician by any chance? ;)

>And what about all your negative comments about this newsgroup
>alt.ascii-art ?  Are they justified and superbly informed ?

AGAIN, my opinion (did I miss reading something that said personal opinions
are not allowed? ;).

>I think that sort of attitude is simply unworthy of you and really
>quite insulting to other folks who may not equal your artistic
>talent. It is very sad that that is how you see things, but that's
>the way of it I guess.

Argh! What a cheap way to create an insulting paragraph!

>As a "Fair Dinkum Aussie" you have a strange concept of fairness.

And there's another one.

---
That reply took about 45 minutes to write. I hope I don't have to
"disclaim" everything I write once again ;).

Row.

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