Re: Classic ascii pics

In article <3AC...@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>, Markus Gebhard wrote:
>Henry Segerman wrote:
>> :> I've not seen those before. You mean like <code><pre> stuff </pre></code> ?
>> 
>> : Yes that's it.

That doesn't make sense, and is invalid HTML.  If anything, it should be
"<pre><code>stuff</code></pre>", since CODE is a text-level element and
may not surround a block-level element like PRE.

It still doesn't make sense, though.


>> : It tells the browser to use a fixed width font there.
>> 
>> Doesn't pre do that already?

Yes, it does.


>No, pre only tells the browser where to keep the blanks and line
>breakings like they are in the html source. Otherwise duplicate blanks
>are united to a single one and line breaks are ignored. Code will make
>it look like program source code - that means the browser will use a
>fixed width font.

Sorry, but this isn't true.  The HTML standard says that browsers should
render PRE blocks in a monospaced font, preserve whitespace and not wrap
lines.  That is not a mandatory requirement, since there are browsers
for which some or all of those requirements are impossible to meet or
meaningless, but all commonly used visual browsers follow it.

Now, without having looked at the page we've been discussing, my guess
is that the problem is that it has FONT tags inside PRE.  That is not
allowed in the HTML standard, precisely because it could mess with the
character spacing, but many browsers accept it.  Unfortunately, some
will not handle it very well, and may not display the text properly as
preformatted.

-- 
Ilmari Karonen - http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/
"Yes I know you can see it in MSIE, but you could feed MSIE a banana and
 it would think it was HTML"       -- Jeff Zucker in comp.lang.perl.misc

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