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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 15 Feb 1998.
Re: The Best way to make ASCII Art.

Re: The Best way to make ASCII Art.

Tony Relyea (are...@vt.edu) wrote:

>I will add a topic to my help file describing the difference between regular
>ASCII and extended ASCII and that most net sites only use regular.  However,
>I have found a lot of BBS's and FTP sites that use extended logos.

But BBS's and FTP sites are not the Net and newsgroups.

[...snip...]

>I never intended to start such a ruckus.  A couple of years ago I came to
>this newsgroup promoting the idea of my program.  People here were VERY
>receptive.  When I got my first unREGISTERed executable finished, I informed
>the people here.  Many people went and tried it out.  I wonder, what ever
>happened that turned this group from a nice, welcoming group into the cynical
>kind of group it is now.  I have never even seen the FAQ.  The group is
>called ASCII art.  I thought that meant ASCII (all ASCII).  When I began this
>thread, someone "Could" have just informed me of the problem and I would have
>understood.  Instead I got a bunch of stupid posts doing anything from
>calling me names to simply laughing and then getting mad when I didn't go
>away.

I've been a regular on alt.ascii-art since the newsgroup was created
in September 1993.

I vaguely remember mention of such a program way back but if you had 
at that time told the readers here about your intention to use the 
Extended Character Set above Decimal 127 and class it as ASCII and 
acceptable for ASCII ART you would have got the response you have 
got now.  Ascii Art and the text basis of transmission of data on 
the Net require that only the Decimal characters 32 to 126 be used.

People who use your program will post their creations to newsgroups 
and get flamed to hell for using the Extended Character Set 
involving the ALT key on the keyboard...their defence will be that 
they purchased and used Relyea's Program that said it was OK.  

_THEN_ everyone can flame you, the author, to a burnt and smoking 
black cinder.  *8-) 


And you say you have never seen the Ascii Art FAQ ?  Why not ?
It was posted often enough to alt.ascii-art and there have been 
plenty of pointers to the FAQ. Have you even read the newest version 
of the FAQ ?  If not why not ?

I really cannot sympathize with your posting here because you have 
clearly not done your homwork by studying the protocols and 
requirements of the Net or the newsgroups; have not read FAQs but 
simply gone ahead regardless and produced a program to make Ascii Art.  


> This used to be a welcoming area, now it is nothing but a bunch of 
> angry cynics who hate anybody and anything new.  

I have been here all the time and I know that that is simply not 
true.  

The early readers were sticklers for adherence to etiquette and 
protocols.  

I am convinced that you failed to state your intention of using
Extended Characters in your previous visit to this newsgroup when
you first announced your projected program for Ascii Art. Perhaps
a search of the old archives of Dejanews still carry your old 
postings here ?


Finally, I am very surprised that you have not been a regular reader 
of the alt.ascii-art newsgroup if you are authoring programs which 
will produce material that will be posted here eventually.  

Bye,

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From: cfb...@southern.co.nz (Colin Douthwaite)
Subject: Re: The Best way to make ASCII Art.
Date: 1998/02/15
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