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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 23 Dec 2001.
Re: The Tengwar

Re: The Tengwar

drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> writes:

> On 22 Dec 2001 20:49:10 +0100, in alt.ascii-art,
>  (Neil Franklin <nei...@franklin.ch.remove>) wrote:
>
> >drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> writes:
> >
> >> > `,---. `,---. `,---.---.
> >> >  |   |  |   |  |   |   |
> >> >  |  -'  |  -'  |  -'  -'
> >> >  |
> >> >  |
> >> >
> >> >    t      r        n       (Tauran = forest walker) Elf of Mirkwood
> >> >                            (my middle earth roleplaying character)
> >>
> >> Is that in some sort of mud?
> >
> >Roleplaying games (RPGs) predate MUD by quite a bit. Actually they are
> >the originals that MUDs were developed from. They are the pre-computer
> >form, where a group sits around an table, with paper forms (character
> >sheets) that describe the characters abilities and use many-sided dice
> >for random numbers to see if something worked and how well it did.
>
> Oh, I think I'll stick to muds. Shouldn't there be some vowels in that name
> also?

Vowels are facultative, and only needed when two words can be confused.
Tolkien has cases of name inscriptions that are consonant-only, such
as the Elendil (L ND L) inscription on his (Elendils) purported (empty)
tomb in Unfinished Tales:

 -----  `,---.---.  -----
 .'      |   |   |  .'
 `._.'   |  -'  -'  `._.'
         |
         |

And yes, in Sindarin that is pronounced as L D L (Eledil), but UT
page 393 explicitely states (spoken by Eorl) "lambe, ando, lambe"
as the writing, which requires Quenya pronounciation to be ND. This
is surprising, as the name Elendil is Sindarin, like all Gondorian
speach.

Ef course Elendil is a famous name, which Tauran is not. So I am a
lazy elf when it comes to writing. :-)


--
Neil Franklin, nei...@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/
Hacker, Unix Guru, El Eng HTL/BSc, Sysadmin, Archer, Roleplayer
- Intellectual Property is Intellectual Robbery

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