Re: [pic] Font

Pete Casso wrote:

> >Pete, allow me to disagree here.
>
> Anytime  :-)
>
> >What you say here is like playing the synthetiser and claiming
> >you play the flute. It sounds like a flute but it's not.

> If the sounds are indistinguishable, who cares whether it has been generated
> with an acoustic or electronic flute? This is a perfect example for
> illustrating the difference between medium/means and ends/artform.

The point here is that one say he's *playing the flute* as he's acuallyplaying
the synthetiser. The result might seem (!) identical but it isn't.
You say that you're making ascii art but you don't: it just look like it.
(see example below)

> >This reminds me of a painting of Rene Magritte. He painted a pipe
> >and wrote bellow: "Ceci n'est pas une pipe" (This is not a pipe).
> >He was damn right: It was a painted representation of a pipe.
>
> You are talking about two different things here, the object itself and its
> pictorial representation. This is not a relevant argument to what we are
> discussing here.
>

I'm talking about what one sees and what things really are. This is
relevant indeed.

> >What you have on your website looks like ascii art but it isn't.
>
> I maintain it is. My sig below contains an ascii pic. If I turned it into a
> gif, then all of a sudden it is no longer an ascii pic? I maintain it still
> is, since the artform does not change, even when the medium has changed.

Let's try an other example: I make woodcuts -which could be seen a
"luddite/dinosaur sort of activity in these modern days"-.
Just like ascii art.  ;-)
Imagine now that I scan a woodcut, save it as a photoshop document
(or a gif) and print it... I'd have a duplicate of a woodcut but it wouldn't
be a woodcut anymore; no matter the quality of the print.
It would have lost all the properties of what *makes* a wookcut...
and it isn't just the rendering of an image.

The same applies to ascii art. A gif of an ascii pic is no longer ascii art
because it lost the properties of what the -American Standard Code for
Information Interchange- is made of.

> A pic made with a mechnical typewriter on paper (that cannot even be
> immediately transmitted over the Internet or shown here on aaa) is also an
> ascii pic, for that matter.

I we'd follow this kind of logic we could say that the Mona Lisa
is a great photo because some people use, now, photography to make
great portraits too.
Art made on a typewriter is called -typewriter art- and certainly isn't ascii.
ASCII= American Standard Code for Information Interchange, have nothing
to do at all with mechnical typewriters (there were typewriters
and typewriter art long before ASCII was even created).



>
>
> >Just my point of view.
>
> Ditto  :-)
>


My point of view (bis).
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