Re: Red Baron Pt. 99
From Dave Bird <dav...@xemu.demon.co.uk>
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In article<8tngv6$ree$07$2...@news.t-online.com>, AxelP <axel.pq@t- online.de> writes: >> Hmmm. I think "armouring the propeller" might be a bit >> of a myth. Albert Ball's plane was a two seater, and the >> NAVIGATOR fired the machine gun -- back along the line >> of flight. (I expect some of them may have had extra >> struts so the guns could be wing-mounted). Synchro continues >> to be the pattern for the cannon on the ME109 etc, while >> allied planes tended to use wing-mounted. >> > >I don't think so. My source ("Reaching for the Skies", 1988 by Ivan Rendall, >german edition) says the following (paraphrased and translated): > > "What the pilots of the single seaters wanted, was a gun firing directly to >the front, above or THROUGH [my emphasis] the propeller. The french manufacturer >Raymond Saulnier experimented with a breaker mechanism which only fired the >gun if the propellor was outside the line of fire. ... This was too unreliable. >Together with the former racing pilot Roland Garros he then developed a system >of deflection plates mounted on the propeller. ... on April 1st 1915 the system >was first tested by Roland Garros. ... Although the system was a bit clumsy, but >it >worked. ... > One day in July 1915 Anthony Fokker demonstrated his newly developed E1 >monoplane >to the german Luftwaffe. ... He had constructed a synchronization device which >allowed the pilot to fire throught the porpeller..." OK, I stand corrected. Obviously from a fighter pilot's POV he wants to "fly by the gunsight" i.e. pretty much shoot where he looks and instinctively roll a very unstable / manoeuvrable plane wherever he needs in order to do so. The ideal is a synchro, straight through the propeller, so he fires where he looks. Setting the wing-mount guns on a Spitfire to converge at 300ft is looking for kind of the same effect: he has to remember the ideal distance, then he is essentially firing where he looks. As other people have pointed out, a gun fired by the rear observer or gun(s) mounted on the top wing of a biplane were a common substitute. |~/ |~/ ~~|;'^';-._.-;'^';-._.-;'^';-._.-;'^';-._.-;||';-._.-;'^';||_.-;'^'0-|~~ P | Woof Woof, Glug Glug ||____________|| 0 | P O | Who Drowned the Judge's Dog? | . . . . . . . '----. 0 | O O | answers on *---|_______________ @__o0 | O L |<a href="news:alt.religion.scientology"></a>_____________|/_______| L www.xemu.demon.co.uk 2B0D 5195 337B A3E6 DDAC BD38 7F2F FD8E 7391 F44F
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