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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 28 May 1998.
Re: Technology evolution and ascii pics

Re: Technology evolution and ascii pics

Martin Atkins <zne...@ovtsbbg.pbz> wrote:
>.----- On Tue, 26 May 1998 20:09:45 +0200, Veronica Karlsson posted:
>|Doug Wilson wrote:
>|> Pete Casso wrote:
>|> 
>|> > Well, ascii pics living in an increasingly hostile world of mainstream
>|> > applications is the very reason why I started this discussion thread ...
>|> 
>|> Pete, last time I checked this wasn't the forum for discussion of ASCII
>|> art. It was the forum for posting ASCII art.
>|> 
>|
>|Then please tell me where the forum for discussion of ascii art is so
>|that I can go there instead. I thought this was it.
>'-------------------------

>So did I... it`s not alt.ascii-art.pictures.only ... or alt.ascii-art.discussion
>for that matter.

>Hmm... Read the FAQ:

>3.  What goes on in the ASCII art discussion groups?
>----------------------------------------------------

>    In the ASCII art discussion groups people discuss ASCII art, post 
>    ASCII pictures, post improved versions or variations of pictures
>    other people have drawn, and generally have fun.

>Notice: the ASCII art *discussion* groups

>In the ASCII art discussion groups people *discuss* ASCII art, post 
>    ASCII pic....

>I think that this sorta means that it is for both.


Yes, I think you have a very good point there.

Matthew Thomas considerably expanded that section of the FAQ
compared with the Scarecrow original which allowed for:

        o Discussion about pieces of art.
        o Questions and answers covering:
          - Creating and viewing ASCII art.
          - Locating FTP sites for ASCII art and related files.

Matthew Thomas however went much further than Allison and described
the newsgroups as " the ASCII art discussion groups ".

Basically ALL newsgroups are regarded as discussion groups unless
otherwise designated in their titles.


==== The Bob Allison original FAQ version ============================


  25  What should I know about posting ASCII Art?

  You can post any of the following types of ASCII art to
rec.arts.ascii or alt.ascii-art or alt.binaries.pictures.ascii
groups:

o All forms of ASCII art including:
  - Standard ASCII art (line pics, 3-D, oversize printer art, GIFs, etc).
  - Non-standard ASCII art (animations, color pics, color animations).
o Discussion about pieces of art.
o Requests for specific pieces of art, and their fulfillment.
o Questions and answers covering:
  - Creating and viewing ASCII art.
  - Locating FTP sites for ASCII art and related files.
o Dicussion about artists in the field.

  Animations can also be posted to alt.ascii-art.animation.  3-D art
can also be posted to alt.3d.


==== The Matthew Thomas new FAQ version ==============================


3.  What goes on in the ASCII art discussion groups?
----------------------------------------------------

    In the ASCII art discussion groups people discuss ASCII art, post
    ASCII pictures, post improved versions or variations of pictures
    other people have drawn, and generally have fun.

    Types of messages which we usually enjoy seeing include:
    *   look, here's an ASCII picture I drew ...
    *   REQ: xyz (ie, has anyone got any ASCII pictures of xyz?)
    *   suggestions on, or improvements of, other people's ASCII
        pictures
    *   hey-guys-love-your-work-type messages!

    Types of messages which we usually *don't* enjoy seeing include:
    *   messages with the subject `ASCII art' (try to be a bit more
        informative, please)
    *   make money fast!!! ... (yawn, yawn, snore)
    *   heres the adress of my web site, come see it pleez (why should
        we?)
    *   don't read this, this is a test (that's what news:alt.test,
        news:misc.test, and many other `test' newsgroups are for).

    There are three ASCII art discussion groups. news:alt.ascii-art is
    the main group, where most of the discussion takes place.

    news:rec.arts.ascii is identical in purpose to news:alt.ascii-art,
    but it is a moderated group -- all messages pass through an
    intermediary (the moderator) who checks them for appropriateness
    before sending them to the group itself. The advantage of this is
    that there isn't any unwanted advertising in the group; however,
    the frequency of postings to news:rec.arts.ascii is very low at the
    time of writing (it was resurrected in November 1997 after the
    previous moderator, Bob Allison (`Scarecrow') retired in December
    1996).

    If your news server isn't set up to allow direct posting to
    news:rec.arts.ascii, e-mail your message to the moderator, Don
    Bertino <ber...@netcom.com>.

    news:alt.ascii-art.animation is specifically for discussion and
    postings of animated ASCII art [see Question 12].

======================================================================


So...after all that...I suppose the bottom line is that since
alt.ascii-art is a totally free and unmoderated newsgroup, with a
FAQ but no official Charter, then anyone can post anything they like
here but run the risk of anyone else saying that they do not like
some of the postings and flamewars will sometimes erupt.

If from time to time lengthy wordy discussions fill up a lot of the
daily postings then readers will scream...and ask...


                  where have all the draaaaaawings gone...
                            \          dunno, just can't see any...
                                ____       ____  /
                      <----    = =\\\     o o\\\
                              /<   c     /<   c
                  ___ _______/__D_/'_   /__,_/\___
                 /(- /(\_\________   \     '\_/   \
                 \ ) \ )_      \o     \   |  o     \
                 /|\ /|\       |'     |   | |'  |  |
                               |     _\   | |   |  \
                               //\____|   | //\_|  |
                              /-,---/     |/-,--|__|
                             / /   _)     / /   /(
                            / /    /     / /    \ )_
                           ( (    <     ( (    < \\
                            \ \    \     \ \    \
                             \ \    |     \ \    |
                              \_\____\     \_\____\
                             ___\_\_\     ___\_\_\
                            ((((,,,,o)   ((((,,,,o) . ..  b'ger

Bye,

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