Re: ASCII Art Fart for Thu, 2004 Nov 25

Sharky wrote:

> In <41ad71cd$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, ABCGi wrote:
> 
> 
>>>The facts are that all the unjustified homicides committed in the USA are
>>>committed in violation of some law. More importantly, the vast majority of
>>>these unjustified homicides are committed by people who are in possession
>>>of arms that have been attained illegally and committed against unarmed,
>>>law abiding citizens. You can compare the "murder" rate in the USA with
>>>places that doctor their statistics all you want, the meat is in the
>>>overall death rate of a country's citizens - you might want to dig a little
>>>deeper on that topic.
>>
>>Sharky I doubt this is true, do you have some stats? 
> 
> Damn! I hate it when people doubt my veracity and THEN ask ME for
> information that they have already been prejudged. ;)
> 
> Check out http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/ and look
> at the death rates for the UK, france, Germany, Russia... etc.
> 
> Where it is true that the death rate for Australia and Canada are lower
> than the USA, the USA comes in below the worlds average for the number of
> deaths per 1000 persons.  However, there are other socioeconomic factors
> (such as over-crowding) that effect the statistical models for violent
> crime. 

Hmmm, well I didn't prejudge. I saw stats on gun deaths. Its an 
interesting site, but those stats are for all deaths - so that is not as 
useful. However the overall death rate is not too staggering, but that 
could be for any number of reasons;

http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/

US 8.34 deaths/1,000 population (2004 est.)
Aus  7.38 deaths/1,000 population (2004 est.)

> If you're not familiar with the subject, you might be interested in the
> theory that man, as a primate, is far more prone to violence when herded
> into dense groups, with other primates.  It is only a theory when applied
> towards man, though.

Although there are countries that share these conditions but do not 
exactly share the same level of violence, so clearly a lot more factors 
are involved.

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> --
> Sharky


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