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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 2 Dec 2004.
Re: ASCII Art Fart for Thu, 2004 Nov 25

Re: ASCII Art Fart for Thu, 2004 Nov 25

In <41a...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, ABCGi wrote:

>Sharky wrote:
>
>> In <41ad71cd$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, ABCGi wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>>>The facts are that all the unjustified homicides committed in the USA are
>>>>committed in violation of some law. More importantly, the vast majority of
>>>>these unjustified homicides are committed by people who are in possession
>>>>of arms that have been attained illegally and committed against unarmed,
>>>>law abiding citizens. You can compare the "murder" rate in the USA with
>>>>places that doctor their statistics all you want, the meat is in the
>>>>overall death rate of a country's citizens - you might want to dig a little
>>>>deeper on that topic.
>>>
>>>Sharky I doubt this is true, do you have some stats? 
>> 
>> Damn! I hate it when people doubt my veracity and THEN ask ME for
>> information that they have already been prejudged. ;)
>> 
>> Check out http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/ and look
>> at the death rates for the UK, france, Germany, Russia... etc.
>> 
>> Where it is true that the death rate for Australia and Canada are lower
>> than the USA, the USA comes in below the worlds average for the number of
>> deaths per 1000 persons.  However, there are other socioeconomic factors
>> (such as over-crowding) that effect the statistical models for violent
>> crime. 
>
>Hmmm, well I didn't prejudge. I saw stats on gun deaths. Its an 
>interesting site, but those stats are for all deaths - so that is not as 
>useful. However the overall death rate is not too staggering, but that 
>could be for any number of reasons;

You seem preoccupied with the idea that death by a "gun" is somewhat more
important than any other form of death. If you want to approach the problem
logically you're going to have to consider all manners of death - that is
if the object of the exploration of the subject is to find a positive
solutions.

>
>http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/
>
>US 8.34 deaths/1,000 population (2004 est.)
>Aus  7.38 deaths/1,000 population (2004 est.)

>> If you're not familiar with the subject, you might be interested in the
>> theory that man, as a primate, is far more prone to violence when herded
>> into dense groups, with other primates.  It is only a theory when applied
>> towards man, though.
>
>Although there are countries that share these conditions but do not 
>exactly share the same level of violence, so clearly a lot more factors 
>are involved.

As a tribute to your heroic defense of women's right at the start of this
thread, I offer you the following quote:

"European police met in The Hague to look at ways of tackling the rising
phenomenon of "honour killings".  They aim to set up a pan-European unit to
combat the killings and crack down on related issues such as trafficking. 

Police are re-opening murder files related to families of Turkish, Middle
Eastern, Asian, Arabic and Eastern European origin over the past 10 years.
Many victims of "honour killings" are women involved in relationships their
family felt brought dishonour on them. I think we've been unaware, we've
been ignorant of the crimes going on, said Andy Baker, a UK police
commander. 

Experts say such killings are on the rise in Europe, but as the issue
remains largely hidden from public view, exact numbers are unknown. A
26-year-old Kurd, Fadime was shot dead two years ago near Stockholm,
allegedly by her father because of her relationship with a Swedish man. The
murder triggered calls for urgent action to protect young immigrants who
fall out with their families."
http://www.rowzane.com/000_etelayeha/2407/240718-Bulletin%2026.htm


Clearly there are some discrepancies in the violent crime rate towards
women being reported by a number of countries, eh?  What does that say
about the overall credibility of the crime rates published by said
countries?  You have to wonder.

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