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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 4 Sep 1998.
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ASCII??

ASCII??

alt.ascii-art · 6 messages · 4 Sep 1998 - 9 Sep 1998
three_sixteen <bom...@lamers.suck.org> ASCII art 4 Sep 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
uhh excuse me but it seems to me that ASCII isnt you pictures... but things
like this
���th���_��xt��n���
for example has ASCII characters...your / | \ arent ascii
characters...their back slashes and so on...
there are plenty more here are some
�
�
�
�
�
� see the difference t?
�
�
�   p
�
�
�
�
there are many more but I cant keep going...you get the idea
oh to get these if you didnt know hold alt and press numbers  on the number
pad...try making art with these instead of slashes

sandra van zanten <svz...@xs4all.nl> ASCII art 4 Sep 1998 00:00 · permalink · report

three_sixteen wrote:

> uhh excuse me but it seems to me that ASCII isnt you pictures... but things
> like this
> ���th���_��xt��n���
> for example has ASCII characters...your / | \ arent ascii
> characters...their back slashes and so on...
> there are plenty more here are some
> �
> �
> �
> �
> �
> � see the difference t?
> �
> �
> �   p
> �
> �
> �
> �
> there are many more but I cant keep going...you get the idea
> oh to get these if you didnt know hold alt and press numbers  on the number
> pad...try making art with these instead of slashes



                    This guy is a heretic
                       and must be flamed.
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>Message-id: <01bdd80e$4f2357e0$4c662e9c@austin>
>uhh excuse me but it seems to me that ASCII isnt you pictures... but things
>like this ���th���_��xt��n���
>for example has ASCII characters...your / | \ arent ascii characters..

If you look in any 'simple' computer reference material,
 you will find that there is a difference between ASCII and
non-ASCII characters.  ASCII are the characters which are
universal from system to system.  ASCII is an acronym for
the American Standard Code for Information Interchange.
This code represents English characters as numbers, with
each letter assigned a number from 0 to 127.  For example,
the ASCII code for an uppercase M is 77.  This character
set uses 7 bits for each character.  A larger character set
uses 8 bits and is known as "extended-ASCII" or "high
ASCII" .  These extra characters are used to represent
 non-English characters, graphics symbols and mathmatical
symbols (such as in the example you posted above).  The
extended characters and their numerical code have been
defined by IBM, but they have not been officially 
standardized.  This is why they are NOT included in true
ASCII art renderings.

The ANSI (an acronym for American National Standards
Institute) character set includes special characters and
associated codes which have been adopted by the ANSI.
Many of these characters overlap the extended-ASCII
character set but they use different codes.

To conclude this technical blurb... all those characters that
you list and identify as ASCII are not.   They do not fall
within the numerical codes of 0 to 127.   Of couse to further
complicate the issue, ASCII art doesn't use the numerical
codes from 0 to 31 as they are control codes such as backspace
and delete.   B'ger has posted the list of acceptable characters,
so I won't bother doing that again.  If you have more questions,
visit the newsgroup's FAQ.  There is info about ASCII and
non-ASCII characters there.  A copy of the FAQ can be
found at:  http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/faq.htm

-joan
spu...@juno.com
ASCII ART GALLERY:  http://www.ascii-art.com/

Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> ASCII art 5 Sep 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
sandra van zanten <svz...@xs4all.nl> wrote:


>three_sixteen wrote:

>> there are many more but I cant keep going...you get the idea
>> oh to get these if you didnt know hold alt and press numbers  on the number
>> pad...try making art with these instead of slashes



>                    This guy is a heretic
>                       and must be flamed.
>                                /
>                               /
>                      )            (
>                     /(   (\___/)  )\
>                    ( #)  \ ('')| ( #
>                     ||___c\  > '__||
>                     ||**** ),_/ **'|
>               .__   |'* ___| |___*'|
>                \_\  |' (    ~   ,)'|
>                 ((  |' /(.  '  .)\ |
>                  \\_|_/ <_ _____> \______________
>                   /   '-, \   / ,-'      ______  \
>                  /      (//   \\)     __/     /   \
>                                      './_____/
>                  b'ger



Will you?  Or shall I?


==========================================================================

                               FLAME FORM

==========================================================================


                                         )  (  (    (
                                         (  )  () @@  )  (( (
                                     (      (  )( @@  (  )) ) (
                                   (    (  ( ()( /---\   (()( (
     _______                            )  ) )(@ !O O! )@@  ( ) ) )
    <   ____)                      ) (  ( )( ()@ \ o / (@@@@@ ( ()( )
 /--|  |(  o|                     (  )  ) ((@@(@@ !o! @@@@(@@@@@)() (
|   >   \___|                      ) ( @)@@)@ /---\-/---\ )@@@@@()( )
|  /---------+                    (@@@@)@@@( // /-----\ \\ @@@)@@@@@(  .
| |    \ =========______/|@@@@@@@@@@@@@(@@@ // @ /---\ @ \\ @(@@@(@@@ .  .
|  \   \\=========------\|@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ O @@@ /-\ @@@ O @@(@@)@@ @   .
|   \   \----+--\-)))           @@@@@@@@@@ !! @@@@ % @@@@ !! @@)@@@ .. .
|   |\______|_)))/             .    @@@@@@ !! @@ /---\ @@ !! @@(@@@ @ . .
 \__==========           *        .    @@ /MM  /\O   O/\  MM\ @@@@@@@. .
    |   |-\   \          (       .      @ !!!  !! \-/ !!  !!! @@@@@ .
    |   |  \   \          )      .     .  @@@@ !!     !!  .(. @.  .. .
    |   |   \   \        (    /   .(  . \)). ( |O  )( O! @@@@ . )      .
    |   |   /   /         ) (      )).  ((  .) !! ((( !! @@ (. ((. .   .
    |   |  /   /   ()  ))   ))   .( ( ( ) ). ( !!  )( !! ) ((   ))  ..
    |   |_<   /   ( ) ( (  ) )   (( )  )).) ((/ |  (  | \(  )) ((. ).
____<_____\\__\__(___)_))_((_(____))__(_(___.oooO_____Oooo.(_(_)_)((_


==========================================================================


 Dear:

  [ ] Clueless Newbie         [ ] Loser
  [ ] AOLer/Euronetter/PIer
  [ ] Me too er               [ ] Pervert         [ ] Geek
  [ ] Spammer                 [ ] Nerd            [ ] Elvis
  [ ] Fed                     [ ] Freak           [ ] FLAMENET
  [ ] Other: Unbearably self-righteous person


 You Are Being Flamed Because:

  [ ] You posted a "test" in a newsgroup other than alt.test/nl.test
  [ ] You posted warez in pieces LESS than 5000 lines
  [ ] You posted a binary in a non-binaries group
  [ ] You quoted an ENTIRE post in your reply
  [ ] You continued a long, stupid thread
  [ ] You started an off-topic thread
  [ ] You posted a "YOU ALL SUCK" message
  [ ] You said "me too" to something
  [ ] You don't know which group to post in
  [ ] You suck
  [ ] You brag about things that never happened
  [ ] Your sig/alias/server sucks
  [ ] You posted a (phone-sex) ad
  [ ] You posted something totally uninteresting
  [ ] You crossposted
  [ ] You posted a message all written in CAPS
  [ ] You posted racism shit
  [ ] I don't like your tone of voice
  [ ] I think you might be a member of CO$
  [ ] I think you might be a fed


 To Repent, You Must:

  [ ] Give up your AOL/Euronet/Planet Internet account
  [ ] Bust up your modem with a hammer and eat it
  [ ] Jump into a bathtub while holding your monitor
  [ ] Actually post something relevant
  [ ] Read the f****** FAQ
  [ ] Be Pat Buchanan's love slave
  [ ] Be the guest of honor in alt.flame for a month
  [ ] Apologize to everybody in this newsgroup
  [ ] Post your tests to alt.test/nl.test


 In Closing, I'd Like to Say:

  [ ] Blow me
  [ ] Get a life
  [ ] Never post again
  [ ] I pity your dog
  [ ] Go to hell
  [ ] I think your IQ must be 7
  [ ] Take your s*** somewhere else
  [ ] Learn to post or f*** off
  [ ] Do us all a favor and jump into some industrial equipment
  [ ] See how far your tongue will fit into the electric outlet
  [ ] All of the above

End of Flame.

Have a nice day,


==========================================================================

Bye,

Matthew Schneider <"ps...@usa.net> ASCII art 7 Sep 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
==========================================================================
> 
>                                FLAME FORM
> 
> ==========================================================================
> 
>                                          )  (  (    (
>                                          (  )  () @@  )  (( (
>                                      (      (  )( @@  (  )) ) (
>                                    (    (  ( ()( /---\   (()( (
>      _______                            )  ) )(@ !O O! )@@  ( ) ) )
>     <   ____)                      ) (  ( )( ()@ \ o / (@@@@@ ( ()( )
>  /--|  |(  o|                     (  )  ) ((@@(@@ !o! @@@@(@@@@@)() (
> |   >   \___|                      ) ( @)@@)@ /---\-/---\ )@@@@@()( )
> |  /---------+                    (@@@@)@@@( // /-----\ \\ @@@)@@@@@(  .
> | |    \ =========______/|@@@@@@@@@@@@@(@@@ // @ /---\ @ \\ @(@@@(@@@ .  .
> |  \   \\=========------\|@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ O @@@ /-\ @@@ O @@(@@)@@ @   .
> |   \   \----+--\-)))           @@@@@@@@@@ !! @@@@ % @@@@ !! @@)@@@ .. .
> |   |\______|_)))/             .    @@@@@@ !! @@ /---\ @@ !! @@(@@@ @ . .
>  \__==========           *        .    @@ /MM  /\O   O/\  MM\ @@@@@@@. .
>     |   |-\   \          (       .      @ !!!  !! \-/ !!  !!! @@@@@ .
>     |   |  \   \          )      .     .  @@@@ !!     !!  .(. @.  .. .
>     |   |   \   \        (    /   .(  . \)). ( |O  )( O! @@@@ . )      .
>     |   |   /   /         ) (      )).  ((  .) !! ((( !! @@ (. ((. .   .
>     |   |  /   /   ()  ))   ))   .( ( ( ) ). ( !!  )( !! ) ((   ))  ..
>     |   |_<   /   ( ) ( (  ) )   (( )  )).) ((/ |  (  | \(  )) ((. ).
> ____<_____\\__\__(___)_))_((_(____))__(_(___.oooO_____Oooo.(_(_)_)((_
> 
> ==========================================================================
> 
>  Dear:
> 
>   [ ] Clueless Newbie         [ ] Loser
>   [ ] AOLer/Euronetter/PIer
>   [ ] Me too er               [ ] Pervert         [X] Geek
>   [ ] Spammer                 [X] Nerd            [ ] Elvis
>   [ ] Fed                     [ ] Freak           [ ] FLAMENET
>   [ ] Other: Unbearably self-righteous person
> 
>  You Are Being Flamed Because:
> 
>   [ ] You posted a "test" in a newsgroup other than alt.test/nl.test
>   [ ] You posted warez in pieces LESS than 5000 lines
>   [ ] You posted a binary in a non-binaries group
>   [ ] You quoted an ENTIRE post in your reply
>   [X] You continued a long, stupid thread
>   [ ] You started an off-topic thread
>   [ ] You posted a "YOU ALL SUCK" message
>   [ ] You said "me too" to something
>   [ ] You don't know which group to post in
>   [ ] You suck
>   [ ] You brag about things that never happened
>   [ ] Your sig/alias/server sucks
>   [ ] You posted a (phone-sex) ad
>   [ ] You posted something totally uninteresting
>   [X] You crossposted
>   [ ] You posted a message all written in CAPS
>   [ ] You posted racism shit
>   [ ] I don't like your tone of voice
>   [ ] I think you might be a member of CO$
>   [ ] I think you might be a fed
> 
>  To Repent, You Must:
> 
>   [X] Give up your AOL/Euronet/Planet Internet account
>   [ ] Bust up your modem with a hammer and eat it
>   [ ] Jump into a bathtub while holding your monitor
>   [ ] Actually post something relevant
>   [ ] Read the f****** FAQ
>   [ ] Be Pat Buchanan's love slave
>   [ ] Be the guest of honor in alt.flame for a month
>   [ ] Apologize to everybody in this newsgroup
>   [ ] Post your tests to alt.test/nl.test
> 
>  In Closing, I'd Like to Say:
> 
>   [ ] Blow me
>   [ ] Get a life
>   [ ] Never post again
>   [ ] I pity your dog
>   [ ] Go to hell
>   [ ] I think your IQ must be 7
>   [ ] Take your s*** somewhere else
>   [ ] Learn to post or f*** off
>   [ ] Do us all a favor and jump into some industrial equipment
>   [ ] See how far your tongue will fit into the electric outlet
>   [X] All of the above
> 
> End of Flame.
> 
> Have a nice day,

I'm Sorry, I'm Sorry I must repent and I hope everybody else repents to.

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/  o'-.__
    ,,,,,\  Matthew Schneider
  ______,'      Student
_/mS        psy...@usa.net

.----- On 4 Sep 1998 14:08:32 GMT, "three_sixteen" posted:
|uhh excuse me but it seems to me that ASCII isnt you pictures... but things
|like this
|���th���_��xt��n���
|for example has ASCII characters...your / | \ arent ascii
|characters...their back slashes and so on...
|
'--------------------------

You are confused.

The ASCII Character set defines a standard 7-bit code for 127 characters
that computers can display. Some computers, ie MSDOS and Windows, use 8-bit
codes allowing for an additional set of characters numbered 128-255 and
these are *not* standard and vary from operating system to operating system.
These are the characters you have listed as ascii. Try typing Alt+'065' and
you should get an 'A'. This is because 65 is the ascii code for the letter A
in upper case. The slashes and other lines that you mention also have codes
in the 7-bit set therefore meaning that they are ascii characters and the
characters you post are extended-ascii characters.


I think the residents of this group deserve an apology, and you need to read
out variety of FAQs.

I`m not going to flame you, I`m just going to ask for an apology.

Bye,
Martin.

|\/| _..__|_o._   /\_|_| o._  _   mart.atkins@--
|  |(_||  |_|| | /--\|_|<|| |_>            --bigfoot.com

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