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[tutorial] grayscale girl

[tutorial] grayscale girl

alt.ascii-art · 14 messages · 13 Nov 2001 - 3 Dec 2001
joris bellenger <svz...@xs4all.nl> ASCII art 13 Nov 2001 09:41 · permalink · report
This a little tutorial about how my -grayscale girl- was made.
Just though that some of you might be interested.

Drawing grayscale ascii art is very time consuming but I could save
a few hours work using Jave. 

joris

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1/
I first made a gif-to-ascii convertion with Jave.
The quality didn't really matter because I was about to change every
single character later anyway.

The idea behind this was to set the overall shape of the drawing. 

This is the raw convertion.
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2/
I saved the document and opened it in a text editor for hand made
diddling where I worked on the top-half of the girl, keeping the
legs for later.

The diddling could have been made in Jave but I'm just used to my
text editor.



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 |                         sRfkgvc+rsnmGBND.
 |                       aHBNLbni+.irumLGNMms
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3/
I made a copy of the legs and pasted them in Jave


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The idea was to use the gradient tool to fill the legs. To
obtain a nice shading effect I had to fill them separately.
So I erased one leg, closed the gaps and erased the shadows around 
the knees and toes.

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The next step was to make a custom gradient in the Fill Options panel.

     MNBtir+iB

I entered the following settings in the Fill Options panel:

- Linear
- dither: enabeld
- Any character + diagonal

... and filled the edges of the legs 


                      MMMMMMMMMMMMMM
                     M             N
                      M            M
                      MN           N
                       M           N
                        N          B
                        NN         N
                         B         t
                         N         B
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                       ii   Bi
                      iB     B
                      B      B
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Then I changed the last setting to:

- Equal character

... ans filled the inside of the leg.

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                         +iiBi
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                      B+iiBBBB
                      BBBBBBB
                          BB

The left leg was made the same way.

4/
I opened the diddled drawing (step 2) in Jave and carefuly pasted the
two legs
in place.
The setting I used in the Selection Options panel was:

- Foreground

5/
I saved and closed the document and opened it in my text editor where
the legs shading and edges were hand diddled.

Tadaaaa...

                           .&dkl`,ivne._
                           sRfkgvc+rsnmGBND.
                         aHBNLbni+.irumLGNMms
                         NRIr`'+dLKNMFb`'iNQr
                        `ANWM7    `+lM0.  `'^Kl
                        iNWL*_;=e.     Y._,_ ON
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                        eNL:,l=N0`.   ls`N0> ibK
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That's it.
:)

joris bellenger wrote:
> 
> This a little tutorial about how my -grayscale girl- was made.
> Just though that some of you might be interested.
> 
> Drawing grayscale ascii art is very time consuming but I could save
> a few hours work using Jave.

[snipped tutorial]

This tutorial is cool and the result image is great :-)

May I add your tutorial to the JavE documentation?

Markus
--
 \-/         http://www.jave.de    O_< Get JavE now!    \-/
J|a|v|E                           /|                   J|a|v|E
 /-\      Ascii-Art for eyeryone  / \   - for free!     /-\

Markus Gebhard wrote:
> 
> joris bellenger wrote:
> >
> > This a little tutorial about how my -grayscale girl- was made.
> > Just though that some of you might be interested.
> >
> > Drawing grayscale ascii art is very time consuming but I could save
> > a few hours work using Jave.
> 
> [snipped tutorial]
> 
> This tutorial is cool and the result image is great :-)
 
Aww... thanks. 

> May I add your tutorial to the JavE documentation?
> 

eerrrr... sure, why not   :)

joris

Poster <NOS...@POSTER.net> ASCII art 13 Nov 2001 12:12 · permalink · report
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  /  /   \     /\  ___|  ___//\__|    |/ __ \\___  |  C[o]-[o]D   \  \
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"joris bellenger" <svz...@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
news:3BF...@xs4all.nl...
> Markus Gebhard wrote:
> >
> > joris bellenger wrote:
> > >
> > > This a little tutorial about how my -grayscale girl- was made.
> > > Just though that some of you might be interested.
> > >
> > > Drawing grayscale ascii art is very time consuming but I could save
> > > a few hours work using Jave.
> >
> > [snipped tutorial]
> >
> > This tutorial is cool and the result image is great :-)
>
> Aww... thanks.
>
> > May I add your tutorial to the JavE documentation?
> >
>
> eerrrr... sure, why not   :)
>
> joris

bonjour joris bellenger, je suis un robot!
> .--                       .&dkl`,ivne._
> |                         sRfkgvc+rsnmGBND.
> |                       aHBNLbni+.irumLGNMms
> |                       NRIr`'+dLKNMFb`'iNQr
> |                      `ANWM7    `+lM0.  `'^Kl
> |                      iNWL*_;=e.     Y._,_ ON
> |                      aRNm   _.l,    j^ _` Bq,
> |                      eNL:,l=N0`.   ls`N0> ibK
> |                      XHZu!       _(c      kPBN
> |                       'CD   .     `      tK7KX
> |                         'f     _&zrc_.  .Y
> |    ,                      v,   `ta.="  ,V
> |   7q. 6%                   ^l     =   .r
> |   f'noib. +                `d+   .._a7                     t
> |   k+RD6 L.dr                h'  `*+iPb                  .f adI`
> |   dj+Ggr 4NJb            .,dT     `'KJc                 _ir+4b .
> |     `cl^ ._ tk.   .,&;:rf"t&;       'yIKbr;.         dp` luhrZti
> |        `~.  ^_T `ysf'      " n,     7     *lkr,.   i7k._m.JKiV"
> |           J  .H dY   `"-              ._``    "VK,4=   . Kdj`
> |           K   K B               -s&.            eJ+  .ys7^`
> |           T   lLj                               (C' .4
> |           P   'y    .,                      .   +j  7
> |          ,y   b,     l          .`         ,t   Y`  Y
> |          4`    i     J`         g,         ti  .l   k
> |          Y     G    p"  -                -  "i`J    p
> |          L     .~  74. `W`              '`W  9+y    b.
> |          N       .Y 6s,     _.      ..      ;T;     gl
> |          A       y   *Yf+:'`        `^*:pfjVK+i     tb

How do you know which characters to use? Tthey don't appear to be
picked for being anti aliased.
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ICQ:11367619 EMAIL:bateau:-)jupiter-io.net WEB:http://tyrian2000.cjb.net

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>   /  / \   \ /   /____  ____     |    |____  ___.__.  dwwwwr wb   \  \
>   \  \  \   Y   // __ \/ __ \    |    \__  \<   |  |  7;_   _;r   /  /
>   /  /   \     /\  ___|  ___//\__|    |/ __ \\___  |  C[o]-[o]D   \  \
>   \  \    \___/  \___  >___  >________(____  / ____|   |  V  |    /  /
>   /  /               \/    \/              \/\/        |  ?  |    \  \
>   \  \      Woher leigt diese Tutorial??                \___/     /  /
> __/  /____________________________________________________________\  \__

Since he didn't post a URL I'm asuming that it have not been put on a webpage
yet.
When it does it will most likely be on the jave.de domain.

Bateau wrote:
> 
> bonjour joris bellenger, je suis un robot!

> 
> How do you know which characters to use? Tthey don't appear to be
> picked for being anti aliased.

I choose the characters according to their Length/width/direction
and "blackness". When drawing a line I also try to avoid using the
same character twice after one an other. This drawing is to small to
get a really smooth anti aliasing. I guess such a line looks better
in a font than in an other. I'm using Courrier New.

joris
PS: bonjour Bateau, comment veux-tu qu'un robot comprenne quelquechose
a l'art, de toute maniere, hein?
;D

CeeJay wrote:
> 
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> >   \  \ ____   ____                ____.                .wwwww.    /  /
> >   /  / \   \ /   /____  ____     |    |____  ___.__.  dwwwwr wb   \  \
> >   \  \  \   Y   // __ \/ __ \    |    \__  \<   |  |  7;_   _;r   /  /
> >   /  /   \     /\  ___|  ___//\__|    |/ __ \\___  |  C[o]-[o]D   \  \
> >   \  \    \___/  \___  >___  >________(____  / ____|   |  V  |    /  /
> >   /  /               \/    \/              \/\/        |  ?  |    \  \
> >   \  \      Woher leigt diese Tutorial??                \___/     /  /
> > __/  /____________________________________________________________\  \__
> 
> Since he didn't post a URL I'm asuming that it have not been put on a webpage
> yet.
> When it does it will most likely be on the jave.de domain.

Yes, that's right. I was busy - as almost always - but I managed to put
it online today:
  http://www.jave.de/docs/tutorial2/index.html

Markus
--
 \-/         http://www.jave.de    O_< Get JavE now!    \-/
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Bateau <Its...@Not-A-Real-Address.com> ASCII art 14 Nov 2001 19:47 · permalink · report
bonjour joris bellenger, je suis un robot!
>Bateau wrote:
>> 
>> bonjour joris bellenger, je suis un robot!
>
>> 
>> How do you know which characters to use? Tthey don't appear to be
>> picked for being anti aliased.
>
>I choose the characters according to their Length/width/direction
>and "blackness". When drawing a line I also try to avoid using the
>same character twice after one an other. This drawing is to small to
>get a really smooth anti aliasing. I guess such a line looks better
>in a font than in an other. I'm using Courrier New.
>
>joris
>PS: bonjour Bateau, comment veux-tu qu'un robot comprenne quelquechose
>a l'art, de toute maniere, hein?
>;D

Eh?
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> Yes, that's right. I was busy - as almost always - but I managed to put
> it online today:
>   http://www.jave.de/docs/tutorial2/index.html

The content of the tables is centered .. this messes up the artwork.
It looks like her head have been cut off

Andreas Freise <ad...@mpq.mpg.de> ASCII art 15 Nov 2001 10:41 · permalink · report
On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, joris bellenger wrote:
[...]
> Tadaaaa...
> 
>                            .&dkl`,ivne._
>                            sRfkgvc+rsnmGBND.
>                          aHBNLbni+.irumLGNMms
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>                         eNL:,l=N0`.   ls`N0> ibK
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I think that slowly I begin to see what you wnat to do. The outline
shading as well as for the legs works pretty good. What I can _not_
see are the hands. Especially the left looks too dark (light
should be coming from left). Maybe I am missing something? Or is
it just the "hands are hard" problem once again?

:)
Andreas


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joris bellenger <svz...@xs4all.nl> ASCII art 15 Nov 2001 13:36 · permalink · report

Andreas Freise wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, joris bellenger wrote:
> [...]
> > Tadaaaa...
> >
> >                            .&dkl`,ivne._
> >                            sRfkgvc+rsnmGBND.
> >                          aHBNLbni+.irumLGNMms
> >                          NRIr`'+dLKNMFb`'iNQr
> >                         `ANWM7    `+lM0.  `'^Kl
> >                         iNWL*_;=e.     Y._,_ ON
> >                         aRNm   _.l,    j^ _` Bq,
> >                         eNL:,l=N0`.   ls`N0> ibK
> >                         XHZu!       _(c      kPBN
> >                          'CD   .     `      tK7KX
> >                            'f     _&zrc_.  .Y
> >       ,                      v,   `ta.="  ,V
> >      7q. 6%                   ^l     =   .r
> >      f'noib. +                `d+   .._a7                     t
> >      k+RD6 L.dr                h'  `*+iPb                  .f adI`
> >      dj+Ggr 4NJb            .,dT     `'KJc                 _ir+4b .
> >        `cl^ ._ tk.   .,&;:rf"t&;       'yIKbr;.         dp` luhrZti
> >           `~.  ^_T `ysf'      " n,     7     *lkr,.   i7k._m.JKiV"
> >              J  .H dY   `"-              ._``    "VK,4=   . Kdj`
> >              K   K B               -s&.            eJ+  .ys7^`
> >              T   lLj                               (C' .4
> >              P   'y    .,                      .   +j  7
> >             ,y   b,     l          .`         ,t   Y`  Y
> [...]
> 
> I think that slowly I begin to see what you wnat to do. The outline
> shading as well as for the legs works pretty good. What I can _not_
> see are the hands. Especially the left looks too dark (light
> should be coming from left). Maybe I am missing something? Or is
> it just the "hands are hard" problem once again?
> 
> :)
> Andreas

Aw! You hit the spot. I keep seeing the hands because I know the
original picture, but as you guys probably don't... The problem
here isn't that hands are hard to draw, it's that the thechnique used
doesn't allow small details like fingers. I could draw them with an
other set of characters /.,\<>:;`-_|(~)7 for instance but they
wouldn't fit in the overall look of the drawing anymore.
I have to think about this.

I wanted to do a -true greyscale- ascii that wasn't a huge picture
(huge pictures allow you more details) and yet that isn't a complete
mess. Maybe it's not possible, I don't know.
Hey! but I'm not giving up.
:)

The following is a combination of line art and greyscale. Using this
technique allows you to draw smaller pictures. The result is crisp
and have some "weight". I like it a lot.

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               VMB0BMV    svz...@xs4all.nl
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joris

ros...@compassmag.co.uk 2 Dec 2001 12:19 · permalink · report
Thanks Joris that was really helpful  and informative.  Rosemarie.

On Tue, 13 Nov 2001 10:41:01 +0100, joris bellenger <svz...@xs4all.nl> wrote:

>This a little tutorial about how my -grayscale girl- was made.
>Just though that some of you might be interested.
>
>Drawing grayscale ascii art is very time consuming but I could save
>a few hours work using Jave. 
>
>joris
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>1/
>I first made a gif-to-ascii convertion with Jave.
>The quality didn't really matter because I was about to change every
>single character later anyway.
>
>The idea behind this was to set the overall shape of the drawing. 
>
>This is the raw convertion.
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>2/
>I saved the document and opened it in a text editor for hand made
>diddling where I worked on the top-half of the girl, keeping the
>legs for later.
>
>The diddling could have been made in Jave but I'm just used to my
>text editor.
>
>
>
> .--                       .&dkl`,ivne._
> |                         sRfkgvc+rsnmGBND.
> |                       aHBNLbni+.irumLGNMms
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> |                      `ANWM7    `+lM0.  `'^Kl
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> |                      eNL:,l=N0`.   ls`N0> ibK
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> |    ,                      v,   `ta.="  ,V
> |   7q. 6%                   ^l     =   .r
> |   f'noib. +                `d+   .._a7                     t
> |   k+RD6 L.dr                h'  `*+iPb                  .f adI`
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> |     `cl^ ._ tk.   .,&;:rf"t&;       'yIKbr;.         dp` luhrZti
> |        `~.  ^_T `ysf'      " n,     7     *lkr,.   i7k._m.JKiV"
> |           J  .H dY   `"-              ._``    "VK,4=   . Kdj`
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>
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>The idea was to use the gradient tool to fill the legs. To
>obtain a nice shading effect I had to fill them separately.
>So I erased one leg, closed the gaps and erased the shadows around 
>the knees and toes.
>
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>
>     MNBtir+iB
>
>I entered the following settings in the Fill Options panel:
>
>- Linear
>- dither: enabeld
>- Any character + diagonal
>
>... and filled the edges of the legs 
>
>
>                      MMMMMMMMMMMMMM
>                     M             N
>                      M            M
>                      MN           N
>                       M           N
>                        N          B
>                        NN         N
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>                          BB
>
>Then I changed the last setting to:
>
>- Equal character
>
>... ans filled the inside of the leg.
>
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>                       MNNBBttiirr+N
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>
>The left leg was made the same way.
>
>4/
>I opened the diddled drawing (step 2) in Jave and carefuly pasted the
>two legs
>in place.
>The setting I used in the Selection Options panel was:
>
>- Foreground
>
>5/
>I saved and closed the document and opened it in my text editor where
>the legs shading and edges were hand diddled.
>
>Tadaaaa...
>
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>                           sRfkgvc+rsnmGBND.
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>                        ltii+;rrddNWNKKii++ddZ
>                        'ii++;iddZBNNNttiirrd'
>                         tii+;;rddNMNKKii++dV
>                         'i++r;ddZBNNNttiirrj
>                          ii++irddNMNKKii++dl
>                          i+:irddBNKNNtti+rri
>                          ii+,:rddN NKKb+,;dd
>                         ,i+.;iddMV VMNBb.ird
>                         li,;xdRMB   XMBkrddZ.
>                        .ii+zBRMKX   HSMBbrrd,
>                        ili+inGBKJ   XKbm++ddZ
>                        rii++irdRZ  ,GKtiirrdd.
>                        ltii++rzkd  lKKii++ddZi
>                        tii++rrddZ  BHttiirrdf'
>                        ttii++rxd'  KRbii++dd7
>                        tri:+rrdf   'Nbtii+rdl
>                        'Yi;++rB'    KKii++dd
>                         Bt:+rrf     'Rbii+rd
>                         'ii++H`      Kbi++dl
>                          V+irf       "KiirP
>                         ,Zli7        `Yi+rd
>                          Z;bK         tk;rl
>                         tii+K         Xli+i
>                        si;+it         AkirY.
>                       etritkl        ;ffi+ds
>                      fltiielf         Kbzrire
>                      HKltfdN'         NBKlfBH
>              b'ger   NMBblB7          VMNKblKl
>                      dBMN9             VKBNM7
>                                           '`
>
>That's it.
>:)


ros...@compassmag.co.uk wrote:
> 
> Thanks Joris that was really helpful  and informative.  Rosemarie.

You're welcome  :)
joris

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