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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 8 Jun 1998.
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[Perspective pic]-2 3d rectangles interlocking.

[Perspective pic]-2 3d rectangles interlocking.

alt.ascii-art · 8 messages · 8 Jun 1998 - 10 Jun 1998
Krogg <kro...@inspace.net> ASCII art 8 Jun 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Here is my contribution to the perspective scene.

.      _.-'" """""----.____
     J"--.____             """""----.___
     J        """""---.___           .+'|
      L                   """""--..+'   |-..
      L    F""-+--.____           |     |   """---..___
      L    |   J       """";-.    |     |.___          """---..___
      |    |   J       ,.+"  |    |     |    """"--.___           "":+
      |    |    F   .+"    .+|    |     F"""---..      """;+      .+ ;
      J    J    ;.+"    .+"  |    |     F        """"--,+"      .+  ." 
      J    J .+"     +:"__ .+J    |     F Krogg98   .+"      ,.+  .+
      J   .+"             """---..|     F         +"       .+   .+
       L  F""--..__                """---..    .+"       .+   .+
       L  |        ""--..__                ""+"       ,.+   .+
       |  |_               ""--.___                 .+    .+
       |    """---..               ""--.___       .+    .+
       +__          ""---..                 """--.+    .+
          """--___         ""---..              |   .+
                  """---___       ;";-..        F .+
                           ""---._|'    ""--..  F+
                                              """

It need some work i think.


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Henry Segerman <sjo...@sable.ox.ac.uk> ASCII art 8 Jun 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Krogg (kro...@inspace.net) wrote:
: Here is my contribution to the perspective scene.

: .      _.-'" """""----.____
:      J"--.____             """""----.___
:      J        """""---.___           .+'|
:       L                   """""--..+'   |-..
:       L    F""-+--.____           |     |   """---..___
:       L    |   J       """";-.    |     |.___          """---..___
:       |    |   J       ,.+"  |    |     |    """"--.___           "":+
:       |    |    F   .+"    .+|    |     F"""---..      """;+      .+ ;
:       J    J    ;.+"    .+"  |    |     F        """"--,+"      .+  ." 
:       J    J .+"     +:"__ .+J    |     F Krogg98   .+"      ,.+  .+
:       J   .+"             """---..|     F         +"       .+   .+
:        L  F""--..__                """---..    .+"       .+   .+
:        L  |        ""--..__                ""+"       ,.+   .+
:        |  |_               ""--.___                 .+    .+
:        |    """---..               ""--.___       .+    .+
:        +__          ""---..                 """--.+    .+
:           """--___         ""---..              |   .+
:                   """---___       ;";-..        F .+
:                            ""---._|'    ""--..  F+
:                                               """

: It need some work i think.

Doesn't look bad :) One of your problems here is the lines going horizontally
down right - with this pattern: ""--.___
But its the same gradient for both the near and far sides of the horizontal
'rectangle' (torus with square edges), so theres no feeling of perspective in 
that direction.

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Krogg <kro...@inspace.net> ASCII art 9 Jun 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Henry Segerman wrote:
> 
> Krogg (kro...@inspace.net) wrote:
> : Here is my contribution to the perspective scene.
[snip of first try"
> 
> : It need some work i think.
> 
> Doesn't look bad :) One of your problems here is the lines going horizontally
> down right - with this pattern: ""--.___
> But its the same gradient for both the near and far sides of the horizontal
> 'rectangle' (torus with square edges), so theres no feeling of perspective in
> that direction.
>   uewJ363S hJu3H   -'
OK,i worked on it a bit.
     
            _
       _.-'" """""----.____
     J"--.____             """""----.___
     J        """""---.___           .+'|
      L                   """""--..+'   |   
      L    F""-+--.____           |     |"""--..___
      L    |   J       """";-.    |     |.___      """--..___
      |    |   J       ,.+"  |    |     |    """"--.___      """--..,
      |    |    F   .+"    .+|    |     F"""---..      """;+      .+: 
      J    J    ;.+"   _.+"  |    |     F        """"--,+"      .+  ; 
      J    J .+"     .:__  .+J    |     F Krogg98   .+"      ,.+  .+
      J   .+"            """---...|     F         +"       .+   .+
       L  F""--..__               """---...    .+"       .+   .+
       L  |        ""--..__                ""+"       ,.+   .+
       |  |_               ""--.___                 .+    .+
       |    """---..               ""--.___       .+    .+
       +__          ""---..                """--.+    .+
          """--___         ""---..              |   .+
                  """---___       ;";-..        F .+
                           ""---._|'    ""--..  F+
                                              """

Anyone think its an approvement,I made what i think are improvements
on most of the upleft to downright slanted horizontal lines in the
horizontal rectangle near the back and inside.<---confusing?
I should try drawing this stuff with a pencil and noncurvyedge[ruler]
b4 i try asciifying it.Henry,Do you draw this on paper first or do you
just jump inthere and go at it?
I wish i had a drafting table but i guess a cad/renderer would work.


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Ojoshiro <ojo...@_NOSPAM_mindless.com> ASCII art 9 Jun 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Krogg wrote:
> 
> Here is my contribution to the perspective scene.
> 
> .      _.-'" """""----.____
>      J"--.____             """""----.___
>      J        """""---.___           .+'|
>       L                   """""--..+'   |-..
>       L    F""-+--.____           |     |   """---..___
>       L    |   J       """";-.    |     |.___          """---..___
>       |    |   J       ,.+"  |    |     |    """"--.___           "":+
>       |    |    F   .+"    .+|    |     F"""---..      """;+      .+ ;
>       J    J    ;.+"    .+"  |    |     F        """"--,+"      .+  ."
>       J    J .+"     +:"__ .+J    |     F Krogg98   .+"      ,.+  .+
>       J   .+"             """---..|     F         +"       .+   .+
>        L  F""--..__                """---..    .+"       .+   .+
>        L  |        ""--..__                ""+"       ,.+   .+
>        |  |_               ""--.___                 .+    .+
>        |    """---..               ""--.___       .+    .+
>        +__          ""---..                 """--.+    .+
>           """--___         ""---..              |   .+
>                   """---___       ;";-..        F .+
>                            ""---._|'    ""--..  F+
>                                               """
> 
> It need some work i think.

Cool! When's the first ASCII-Art Vector-game gonna be released?

I'll just do a 3D ball here =)
-     --    ---   ---   ---    --     -
-    --   ---  ---- ----  ---   --    -
-   --  --- --------------- ---  --   -
-  -- ----------- .+Xx----------- --  -
- -------------    .-+xX------------- -
--------------   ..-++xXX+++-----------
-------------- ..--++xxXX+++++---------
- --------------+++xxXXX+++++++------ -
-  -- -----------xxXXX+++++++++-- --  -  
-   --  --- ---------++++++.++-  --   - 
-    --   ---  ---- ---+..++-   --    -
-     --    ---   ---   ---    --     -

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Krogg <kro...@inspace.net> ASCII art 10 Jun 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Henry Segerman wrote:
> 
> Krogg (kro...@inspace.net) wrote:
> 
> : OK,i worked on it a bit.

> When I did castle I just started with the one perspective block and extended
> the lines, though I don't think thats the best way to do it. I sometimes
> draw it to get a feel for how I want it to look, then put in '+'s where I
> want corners to be (the rest is essentially just joining the dots :)
> next put in a few key lines like '-'s for more horizontal lines, '|'s for
> more vertical lines, then fill in the . ' _ things for horizontalish lines,
> J F L for verticalish lines. Something to bear in mind for the perspective -
> all the lines that in the 'real world' are parallel (eg the opposite walls
> of the castle) should converge to the same vanishing point, so I put a
> finger somewhere off the screen where I see 2 such lines converging and check
> if all the other lines that are supposed to go there actually do.


Thanks for the tips,I shall try to use them.I hope you dont mind others
emulating your methods.I hadnt thought of using a finger off the screen
to line things up,i was just sort of eyeballing it loosly.I dont know
WHEN i will try another one but i do know WHAT i will try.
              Anyway,
                 


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Ilmari Karonen <ilt...@sci.fi> ASCII art 10 Jun 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Ojoshiro (ojoshiro@_NOSPAM_mindless.com) wrote:
: Cool! When's the first ASCII-Art Vector-game gonna be released?

As soon as I get the last bugs out of my FJL-style bitmap2ascii code.
Come to think of it, it just might be fast enough for realtime.. You've
got a nice idea there.

Actually it might take a bit longer to get those bugs out, as I haven't
even finished putting them all in yet. Wait and see. :)

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Henry Segerman <sjo...@sable.ox.ac.uk> ASCII art 10 Jun 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Krogg (kro...@inspace.net) wrote:

: Thanks for the tips,I shall try to use them.I hope you dont mind others
: emulating your methods.I hadnt thought of using a finger off the screen

No - not at all. I mean sure its nice having the pictures recognised as being
mine because of the style - but its better to have a whole style that other 
people can use initiated by me :) Anyway, thats what initials are for.

I doubt if the initials erasers would try it with the perspective drawings -
theyre probably too recogniseable with the JFL stuff. Hmm - I've just 
contradicted myself haven't I? :)

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Henry Segerman <sjo...@sable.ox.ac.uk> ASCII art 10 Jun 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Krogg (kro...@inspace.net) wrote:

: OK,i worked on it a bit.
:      
:             _
:        _.-'" """""----.____
:      J"--.____             """""----.___
:      J        """""---.___           .+'|
:       L                   """""--..+'   |   
:       L    F""-+--.____           |     |"""--..___
:       L    |   J       """";-.    |     |.___      """--..___
:       |    |   J       ,.+"  |    |     |    """"--.___      """--..,
:       |    |    F   .+"    .+|    |     F"""---..      """;+      .+: 
:       J    J    ;.+"   _.+"  |    |     F        """"--,+"      .+  ; 
:       J    J .+"     .:__  .+J    |     F Krogg98   .+"      ,.+  .+
:       J   .+"            """---...|     F         +"       .+   .+
:        L  F""--..__               """---...    .+"       .+   .+
:        L  |        ""--..__                ""+"       ,.+   .+
:        |  |_               ""--.___                 .+    .+
:        |    """---..               ""--.___       .+    .+
:        +__          ""---..                """--.+    .+
:           """--___         ""---..              |   .+
:                   """---___       ;";-..        F .+
:                            ""---._|'    ""--..  F+
:                                               """

: Anyone think its an approvement,I made what i think are improvements
: on most of the upleft to downright slanted horizontal lines in the
: horizontal rectangle near the back and inside.<---confusing?

Yep - I think I understand though :) It does look better - just be a bit 
careful - it maybe looks like the far edge of the horizontal torus is
thinner than the near edge enve taking into account the perspective?

: I should try drawing this stuff with a pencil and noncurvyedge[ruler]
: b4 i try asciifying it.Henry,Do you draw this on paper first or do you
: just jump inthere and go at it?
: I wish i had a drafting table but i guess a cad/renderer would work.

When I did castle I just started with the one perspective block and extended 
the lines, though I don't think thats the best way to do it. I sometimes
draw it to get a feel for how I want it to look, then put in '+'s where I
want corners to be (the rest is essentially just joining the dots :)
next put in a few key lines like '-'s for more horizontal lines, '|'s for
more vertical lines, then fill in the . ' _ things for horizontalish lines,
J F L for verticalish lines. Something to bear in mind for the perspective -
all the lines that in the 'real world' are parallel (eg the opposite walls
of the castle) should converge to the same vanishing point, so I put a 
finger somewhere off the screen where I see 2 such lines converging and check 
if all the other lines that are supposed to go there actually do.

--
-- 
,-   Henry Segerman
|           _    
|--,  /\ \ | \,--,  ,
|  |  \/ |\| /\  |  |
'  '--'\_| \ \/  '--|
                    |
  uewJ363S hJu3H   -'

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