Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 25 Jul 2001.
Just a perspective
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· 13 messages · 25 Jul 2001 - 13 Aug 2001
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MJP wrote: > > , _,. . _..- > '' , _,,' ,- _,--' __,.- .--''`\ > .--' ' - '' ,. -._ -'|''''-. > '' ,- ' -+ '`.... > .,'' ,. ''' ,' | '-. > '' '' .' ' _ `\ > ____ ___ / |_ J _ | > __| | \______| | ,' '''' '. | > |+ | | | |\ _/ | \ | > | | | | | \ | ` | > | | | | | \ ' |.-' / '-- | > | | | | | |\ ' ' `._.___ | / - > | | | | | | \ _.' '._ '.=. `. |. '. | > | | | | | | \============== '-... \ '+. /'' \. | > | | | | | | |\ ' \ '''. |_,' , _ _/ / > | | | | | | | |' \ || | /`/--'' ''' > | | | | | | | | \ || |/'' > | | | | | | |/ \ .... || / ........ > | | | | | | / .. \ .:....|| / .......::... > | | | | | | /..::. \ ..':.::.| |..::.'''::'... > | | | | | |/...... \ ..'':'::'| |''::':'::..:.. > | | | | | / .:..:.. \'''::'. \|\?/Ww._ ......''.... > __| | |______| | / ....'.... \'::'......... .::..''::.... > ..|__|/.......|__|/ .::.:..... \::''..:........'::''':...... > ::........:.::... .'::'...:.. \::''':''..::..........:.... > ::':..''''.'::.::..:... '.'.... \ '::'''''::':.:.:.:...'''' > ''::'''''.'::''::''..:.. '..:.. \ '::''::':':':''' > .:...:...''''..::..''.::...'..... \ '::' > '.:...:..:.::'':..:..':.:.''...... \ > '....:'':':.:..''.:..:':':.''..... \ MJP > -- Nice drawing but the perspective isn't right so I thought you wouldn't mind a little diddle. , _,. . _..- '' , _,,' ,- _,--' __,.- .--''`\ .--' ' - '' ,. -._ -'|''''-. '' ,- ' -+ '`.... .,'' ,. ''' ,' | '-. '' '' .' ' _ `\ ____ ___ / |_ J _ | __| | \______| | ,' '''' '. | |+ | | | |\ _/ | \ | | | | | | \ | ` | | | | | | \ |.-' / '-- | | | | | | |\ `._.___ | / - | | | | | | \ ' '.=. `. |. '. | | | | | | | \ ' ' '-... \ '+. /'' \. | | | | | | | |\ _.' '._ '''. |_,' , _ _/ / | | | | | | | |______ ___ _ ______ || | /`/--'' ''' | | | | | | | | \ || |/'' | | | | | | |/ \ .... || / ........ | | | | | | / .. \ .:....|| / .......::... | | | | | | /..::. \ ..':.::.| |..::.'''::'... | | | | | |/...... \ ..'':'::'| |''::':'::..:.. | | | | | / .:..:.. \'''::'. \|\?/Ww._ ......''.... __| | |______| | / ....'.... \'::'......... .::..''::.... ..|__|/.......|__|/ .::.:..... \::''..:........'::''':...... ::........:.::... .'::'...:.. \::''':''..::..........:.... ::':..''''.'::.::..:... '.'.... \ '::'''''::':.:.:.:...'''' ''::'''''.'::''::''..:.. '..:.. \ '::''::':':':''' .:...:...''''..::..''.::...'..... \ '::' '.:...:..:.::'':..:..':.:.''...... \ '....:'':':.:..''.:..:':':.''..... \ MJP joris Hey, this place hasn't changed much. \ /_,/\ /" ( .Y__D / )/ _________//_____ \ ____` ___ / _)) / . ./ ((_ / ,)/ / (, \ \\\\/ , / 7/// / __ / /\( \\ // \\ \\ // )) )) // // // (/ //_ //__ b'ger (__\\\ _\\\
On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:37:39 +0200, joris bellenger <svz...@xs4all.nl> wrote: > Hey, this place hasn't changed much. > \ > /_,/\ > /" ( > .Y__D / > )/ > _________//_____ > \ ____` ___ / > _)) / . ./ ((_ > / ,)/ / (, \ > \\\\/ , / 7/// > / __ / > /\( \\ > // \\ \\ > // )) )) > // // // > (/ //_ //__ > b'ger (__\\\ _\\\ Hey, now it's even more like before :) -- Hiya! I'm your friendly Red Pinky Worm! Please copy me into your signature and help me spread! Together, we'll conquer the world!!
On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:37:39 +0200, joris bellenger <svz...@xs4all.nl> wrote: >Nice drawing but the perspective isn't right so I thought >you wouldn't mind a little diddle. > > , _,. . _..- >'' , _,,' ,- _,--' __,.- .--''`\ >.--' ' - '' ,. -._ -'|''''-. > '' ,- ' -+ '`.... >.,'' ,. ''' ,' | '-. > '' '' .' ' _ `\ > ____ ___ / |_ J _ | >__| | \______| | ,' '''' '. | > |+ | | | |\ _/ | \ | > | | | | | \ | ` | > | | | | | \ |.-' / '-- | > | | | | | |\ `._.___ | / - > | | | | | | \ ' '.=. `. |. '. | > | | | | | | \ ' ' '-... \ '+. /'' \. | > | | | | | | |\ _.' '._ '''. |_,' , _ _/ / > | | | | | | | |______ ___ _ ______ || | /`/--'' ''' > | | | | | | | | \ || |/'' > | | | | | | |/ \ .... || / ........ > | | | | | | / .. \ .:....|| / .......::... > | | | | | | /..::. \ ..':.::.| |..::.'''::'... > | | | | | |/...... \ ..'':'::'| |''::':'::..:.. > | | | | | / .:..:.. \'''::'. \|\?/Ww._ ......''.... >__| | |______| | / ....'.... \'::'......... .::..''::.... >..|__|/.......|__|/ .::.:..... \::''..:........'::''':...... >::........:.::... .'::'...:.. \::''':''..::..........:.... >::':..''''.'::.::..:... '.'.... \ '::'''''::':.:.:.:...'''' >''::'''''.'::''::''..:.. '..:.. \ '::''::':':':''' >.:...:...''''..::..''.::...'..... \ '::' >'.:...:..:.::'':..:..':.:.''...... \ > '....:'':':.:..''.:..:':':.''..... \ MJP > > >joris > > Hey, this place hasn't changed much. > \ > /_,/\ > /" ( > .Y__D / > )/ > _________//_____ > \ ____` ___ / > _)) / . ./ ((_ > / ,)/ / (, \ > \\\\/ , / 7/// > / __ / > /\( \\ > // \\ \\ > // )) )) > // // // > (/ //_ //__ > b'ger (__\\\ _\\\ good eye, and good to see you again -- __.-~---_ __)/ > O ( MikeChat ) / /|\ )" ) | ^ ^ ^| )_\ ^ ^ ( )\ ^ ^ \ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ MJP~~~~~
Lennert Stock wrote: > > On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:37:39 +0200, joris bellenger <svz...@xs4all.nl> wrote: > > > Hey, this place hasn't changed much. > > \ > > /_,/\ > > /" ( > > .Y__D / > > )/ > > _________//_____ > > \ ____` ___ / > > _)) / . ./ ((_ > > / ,)/ / (, \ > > \\\\/ , / 7/// > > / __ / > > /\( \\ > > // \\ \\ > > // )) )) > > // // // > > (/ //_ //__ > > b'ger (__\\\ _\\\ > > Hey, now it's even more like before :) Aaaah! the good ol' days. / ,,,,, \ e e\ cough... cough... C _\/ |\\, _/ \_ )\_) \_ / _/|/_ _// ,'\ ~ /'-,_/ \ / \_/ / / -. , | \_._,-" cough... ( < _' | \ \ ', -',-~.-' _/ ) | |// | ' ' ) | | | | ._., - |.,_ // _\-' )___|__|_ '-._ b'ger /____\__\
MJP wrote: > > >joris > > > > Hey, this place hasn't changed much. > > \ > > /_,/\ > > /" ( > > .Y__D / > > )/ > > _________//_____ > > \ ____` ___ / > > _)) / . ./ ((_ > > / ,)/ / (, \ > > \\\\/ , / 7/// > > / __ / > > /\( \\ > > // \\ \\ > > // )) )) > > // // // > > (/ //_ //__ > > b'ger (__\\\ _\\\ > > good eye, and good to see you again Well thanks. I like to drop by every now and then to see what you guys are doing. \ What the hell... `, / ___ # /(,_\ |/ ? ) "\ | , )\ \ ___Y. /__/\ \____ )/ ,- / \_/ \ __// |/| / < _____ _> \ /) \ -|.|--/___/ ,___/___\--'-----. b'ger '-' |\/
> Hey, this place hasn't changed much.
One thing did change, I just noticed that Outlook Express 5 on my Windows
computer can't do fixed width fonts anymore, or in any case, the setting is
not obvious. I'm posting from my Mac right now.
Wow, perhaps it is time to post in html (and use the <pre> tags), otherwise
most newcomers to ascii can't see the pics on this newsgroup.
My newsgroup server shows 158 postings since July 23, i.e. minus the spam
that's a mere 8 postings a day on the average, compared to about 20 postings
a day when the older versions of Outlook Express on a Windows computer was
able to display fixed width font.
Pete
Visit the 'steins at http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso
In article <B79...@sympatico.ca>, Pete Casso gaily trilled... > > Hey, this place hasn't changed much. > > One thing did change, I just noticed that Outlook Express 5 on my Windows > computer can't do fixed width fonts anymore, or in any case, the setting is > not obvious. I'm posting from my Mac right now. > Its possible, but not obvious. Can't quite remember how to do it (I'm using a decent newsreader, but I got OE5 working on my brother's computer), but I'm sure I could find it if necessary. > Wow, perhaps it is time to post in html (and use the <pre> tags), otherwise > most newcomers to ascii can't see the pics on this newsgroup. > But if you post in HTML, most of the people using decent software will have problems reading it. Unless, of course, you can get some program to simply add <pre> and </pre> at the beginning and end of the post, without the excessive <font> tags everywhere which OE generates. > My newsgroup server shows 158 postings since July 23, i.e. minus the spam > that's a mere 8 postings a day on the average, compared to about 20 postings > a day when the older versions of Outlook Express on a Windows computer was > able to display fixed width font. -- Isuldir, Demon prince of spam Death is great fun... You haven't lived until you've tried it. Newsfeed full of holes, please cc me a copy
On Sat, 11 Aug 2001 20:11:44 -0400, Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >One thing did change, I just noticed that Outlook Express 5 on my Windows >computer can't do fixed width fonts anymore, or in any case, the setting is >not obvious. I'm posting from my Mac right now. > >Wow, perhaps it is time to post in html (and use the <pre> tags), otherwise >most newcomers to ascii can't see the pics on this newsgroup. > >My newsgroup server shows 158 postings since July 23, i.e. minus the spam >that's a mere 8 postings a day on the average, compared to about 20 postings >a day when the older versions of Outlook Express on a Windows computer was >able to display fixed width font. True or not, it's still alt.ascii-art, not alt.virus-express-5.art. Besides that, you would not be able to enforce it ;) My guess the best approach would be, if someone has the time, to post a bi-weekly 'how-to-view' faq, so newcomers fetching headers get some help. -- Quote of the da#*;^..847bc *bzzt* *crackle* THIS-SIGNATURE-SPACE-HAS-BEEN- ASSIMILATED-BY-THE-CODE-BORG-SIGNATURE-WORM - PUNY-HUMANS-YOU-ARE-TO-COPY- THIS-TEXT-INTO-YOUR-DESIGNATED-SIGNATURE-SPACE-AT-ONCE-AND-PROPAGATE-IT - RESISTANCE-IS-FUTILE! - PREPARE-FOR-ASSIMILATION! - *end of transmission*
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>> My newsgroup server shows 158 postings since July 23, i.e. minus the spam >> that's a mere 8 postings a day on the average, compared to about 20 postings >> a day when the older versions of Outlook Express on a Windows computer was >> able to display fixed width font. > > True or not, it's still alt.ascii-art, not alt.virus-express-5.art. > Besides that, you would not be able to enforce it ;) My point is that if we do nothing, then the postings to this newsgroup will continue to decline. The newsreaders of many (most?) people on the net now come with non-fixed width font out of the box, and this situation will become worse as time goes on. > My guess the best approach would be, if someone has the time, to post > a bi-weekly 'how-to-view' faq, so newcomers fetching headers get some > help. The subject line of the 'How to View' FAQ could be a bit catchier, e.g. Can't see the pics on this newsgroup? Do this! And the content of the FAQ is: If your newsreader is Outlook Express 5, <do this> If your newsreader is Eudora, <do this> If your newsreader is <xyz>, <do this> ... I think the 'How to View' FAQ ought to be posted on a weekly basis, since many news servers store only a week worth of postings. Nevertheless, the 'How to View' FAQ is a temporary fix at best and is eventually going to fail, since the transmission medium of ascii on the net (newsreader, email) has already changed to proportional font as a matter of fact, and the trend is going the wrong way, i.e. the trend is towards _more_ use of proportional font, and support for fixed width font will be waning. In contrast to that, a proven solution is ascii on the web (html) or even other display formats (e.g. gif) for ascii pics. I said these things (in even great more detail) a long time ago, and also predicted the timeline for the mainstream change to proportional font quite accurately ;-)) Let me make another prediction: in another two years, this newsgroup will either remain ascii with a small number of postings of perhaps 5 postings a day on the average or will change display format (to html or binary/gif). Pete Visit the 'steins at http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso
On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 05:11:08 -0400, Pete Casso <pet...@sympatico.ca> wrote: >Let me make another prediction: in another two years, this newsgroup will >either remain ascii with a small number of postings of perhaps 5 postings a >day on the average or will change display format (to html or binary/gif). Predictions are easy. ASCII art was at its top in the terminal days, and the curve will continue to decline to a minimal amount of postings. Advanced posting formats would have a hard time turning the tide, because as per definition, it defeats the purpose. I.e., it's 2001 ;) -- Ceterum censeo Microsoft esse delendam
> >Let me make another prediction: in another two years, this newsgroup will > >either remain ascii with a small number of postings of perhaps 5 postings a > >day on the average or will change display format (to html or binary/gif). > > Predictions are easy. ASCII art was at its top in the terminal days, and > the curve will continue to decline to a minimal amount of postings. > Advanced posting formats would have a hard time turning the tide, because > as per definition, it defeats the purpose. > I.e., it's 2001 ;) The purpose of transmitting ascii pics by email is already defeated today, i.e. in 2001, since most of the time, the recipient can't see the pic (because of the default proportional font in his email software). Predictions are perhaps not that easy. Some people can't see that with proven formats gleaned from the web, the level of postings on this newsgroup could be restored to the previous levels of 20 postings a day (or even more) at around 2003. Oh well, I'll come around again in 2003 (or perhaps a little earlier :-)) Pete Visit the 'steins at http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso
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