ideas for jave!?

hi there

what about the selection mode? for image 2 ascii jave needs to know
the lightnes of every character.. why not use this knowledge to make a
"only lighter characters" "only darker characters" "add" and
"substract" mode for the selection?

that would also open up new editing features like brushes!

you have a antialiased brush like this

   ,,..   
  7WWWWF  
'(WWWWWW)'
\JJWWWWJJ/
/TTMMMMTT\
.(MMMMMM).
  JMMMML  
   ``''   

and you start drawing.. the characters drawn and the ones below them
will be added/subtracted in their brightness value and the
corresponding character will be placed there.. you may even be able to
set opacity

this would also make "invert" (also called "negative" possible for
hand-refined asciified images if refining them in inverted mode is
easier or if you would like it on a black surface with white writing
and only have the ascii, not the original image

                   `         ` 9MMM
           ,      /-            /NM
           M,     .-%             N
    Jb     MM,    /-(,            .
    MMA.   MMMJ.  /mab   -        .
    MMMM,  MMMMM_  NMy  .         .
  , (MMMM,,JMMMMMM_,TA_a`         _
  Mm_MMMMmMMMMMMMMMMMMW:          J
  MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmJJMM,`      .
  MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMy  ..  d
 gMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmMMM` J> _M
 MMMMTMMMMMMMMFt(WMMaJM@WE.`  _  JM
 MMMMMWMMMTNM8`   J9TMMMMb`   J_JMM
 MMMMMM@-._2=`       -(dA--  JMMMMM
 MMMMMMMaMMmy`   ..._((dMu~  MMMMMM
 MMMMMMMMMMMQ-   aQMMMMMMa-` 999TMM
 MMMMMMMMM#JMy   JMMMMMMMM:       N
 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMmaaJMMMMMME        /
 MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM:      _JM
 MMMMMRtNMMMMM@@@T>:>TMME-    . JMM
 MMK9`  (MMMMMMMMF@aaaMMv    .. .MM
 F`      JMMMMMMMMMMMMMMb  .--- .MM
           JMMMMMMMMMMMMgama---- NM
       ._.  /MMMMMMMm_JMMMMQe~    M
 m,__.__MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMQJ-.  /

(mark the image to see what i mean)

it would open up a big variety of editing possibilities similar to
those in graphic editing programs.. wich is sometimes what you really
need. think of a blur or a brightness/contrast enhancement or
transparent layers or.....

oh and what about a ascii to image converter? :)

sorry if i have bothered you but i am a highly crazy over-creative
media designer :)) and ...ehmm.. that's just another of my spontaneous
ideas i have but can't realize myself

greetinx
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Hi,

Thanks for sharing your ideas. I will write them all down to my list.
From time to time I take some of them and integrate it into Jave.

> oh and what about a ascii to image converter? :)

There will be some kind of Ascii2Gif converter in the very next release
of Jave. It creates thumbnail images. I don't know if that's what you
have in mind but we will see.

> sorry if i have bothered you but i am a highly crazy over-creative
> media designer :)) and ...ehmm.. that's just another of my spontaneous
> ideas i have but can't realize myself

Hey, I like crazy ideas. So don't mind sharing them all - maybe I like
them and you will see them in the next release of Jave :-)

Markus
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http://www.jave.de

On Tue, 08 May 2001 17:41:36 +0200, Markus Gebhard <ukg...@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> wrote:

8<

 >
 >Hey, I like crazy ideas. So don't mind sharing them all - maybe I like
 >them and you will see them in the next release of Jave :-)
 >
 >Markus
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 >http://www.jave.de

How about animated text where JAVE could extract only the changed "letter cells"
and build an animated java script (viewable inside JAVE, a web page, or possibly
a downloadable applet that could run standalone...maybe even with wav/midi support)

123456789
1+-------+
2|   O   |
3| <()\  |
4|  cc   |
5|  ||   |
6| / |   |
7+-------+
or just each line, if no changes on line 1 it is dropped, but the 
original line 1 is still displayed
1+-------+
2|  O    |
3| /()>  |
4|  cc   |
5|  ||   |
6|  | \  |
7+-------+

"frame 2" would then be mapped as
1
2|  O    |
3| /()>  |
4
5
6|  | \  |
7

"frame 3" 
1
2|   O   |
3| <()\  |
4
5
6| / |   |
7
+-------+
|   O   |
| <()\  |
|  cc   |
|  ||   |
| / |   |
+-------+
|  O    |
| /()>  |
|  cc   |
|  ||   |
|  | \  |
+-------+
|  O    |
| /()>  |
|  cc   |
|  ||   |
|  | \  |
+-------+
| \ O   |
|  ()>  |
|  cc   |
|  / \  |
|  \  \ |
+-------+
|  O    |
| /()>  |
|  cc   |
|  ||   |
|  | \  |
+-------+
| \ O   |
|  ()>  |
|  cc   |
|  / \  |
|  \  \ |
+-------+
|  O    |
| /()>  |
|  cc   |
|  ||   |
|  | \  |
+-------+
|   O   |
| <()\  |
|  cc   |
|  ||   |
| / |   |
+-------+
|  O    |
| /()>  |
|  cc   |
|  ||   |
|  | \  |
+-------+
|   O   |
| <()\  |
|  cc   |
|  ||   |
| / |   |
+-------+
|  O/   |
| <()   |
|  cc   |
|  / \  |
| /  /  |
+-------+
|   O   |
| <()\  |
|  cc   |
|  ||   |
| / |   |
+-------+
|  O/   |
| <()   |
|  cc   |
|  / \  |
| /  /  |
+-------+
|   O__ |
| /()   |
|  cc   |
|  /\   |
| / /   |
+-------+
|   O   |
| /()\  |
|  cc   |
|  /\   |
| /  \  |
+-------+
| __O   |
|   ()\ |
|   cc  |
|   /\  |
|  /  \ |
+-------+
| __O   |
|   ()\ |
|   cc  |
|  / \  |
|  \  \ |
+-------+
| __O   |
|   ()\ |
|   cc  |
|   /\  |
|  /  \ |
+-------+
| __O   |
|   ()\ |
|   cc  |
|  / \  |
|  \  \ |
+-------+
|  \ O  |
|   ()\ |
|   cc  |
|  /  \ |
|  \   \|
+-------+
MJP
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On Sun, 06 May 2001 20:21:05 +0200, lastfuture <las...@lastfuture.de> wrote:

 >
 >oh and what about a ascii to image converter? :)
 >
 If you have windows(x) you can view you ascii, hit the printscreen key
then in most any graphics program use edit/paste to insert a screen shot
which can then be edited to just the area you want. 
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In alt.ascii-art, MJP <mik...@best.com> wrote:
> lastfuture <las...@lastfuture.de> wrote:
>  >oh and what about a ascii to image converter? :)
>  If you have windows(x) you can view you ascii, hit the printscreen key
> then in most any graphics program use edit/paste to insert a screen shot
> which can then be edited to just the area you want. 

There's some key combo to do screen grabs on Macs, too. And
X windows has xwd: X window dump.

But one of the better ways to do it is use pbmtext, a Unix command
line tool. It is not limited to making things that can fit on your
screen. Then you can scale those images to produce interesting
effects.

Here is the image2ascii "comp1d" image as converted to 320 char
wide ascii and then scaled to a ~ 640x800 GIF:

http://www.panix.com/~eli/A2I/

Elijah
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loves command line image editing