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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 20 Oct 2001.
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I design an amusing soft to manage ASCII art

I design an amusing soft to manage ASCII art

alt.ascii-art · 11 messages · 20 Oct 2001 - 25 Oct 2001
QQ <pos...@softcows.com> 20 Oct 2001 05:37 · permalink · report
I like ASCII art very much. I always visit ASCII art sites. I am a
programmer. So I design an amusing soft to manage ASCII art. this soft
has a great collection of ASCII art from various artists. You can
convert picture or text into beautiful ASCII art easily.
My homepage is http://www.softcows.com, the download url is
http://www.softcows.com/imagechat.exe. I hope you will like this soft
just as I like it:)
Thanks.

ldb <she...@lycos.com> 21 Oct 2001 04:45 · permalink · report
Quote from the site:

"Any unregistered user can use the software for 30 days. Registration
only costs $9.95. Registered ImageChat users can obtain FREE technical
support and upgrade to future versions for FREE!" 

So, he/ she is charging 10 bucks for this program. How much of that is
he/ she paying the ascii artists? Is he/ she at least keeping artist
initials on the ascii art?


On 19 Oct 2001 22:37:30 -0700, pos...@softcows.com (QQ) wrote:

>I like ASCII art very much. I always visit ASCII art sites. I am a
>programmer. So I design an amusing soft to manage ASCII art. this soft
>has a great collection of ASCII art from various artists. You can
>convert picture or text into beautiful ASCII art easily.
>My homepage is http://www.softcows.com, the download url is
>http://www.softcows.com/imagechat.exe. I hope you will like this soft
>just as I like it:)
>Thanks.


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bug <bug...@akw.pl> 21 Oct 2001 09:03 · permalink · report
It was a beautiful day/night Sun, 21 Oct 2001 04:45:53 GMT, when
she...@lycos.com (ldb) wrote in alt.ascii-art that: 

>So, he/ she is charging 10 bucks for this program. How much of that is
>he/ she paying the ascii artists? Is he/ she at least keeping artist
>initials on the ascii art?

If he gets money for using his program and this program contains
somebody elses pictures and he's not paying fees to authors than he's
braking the law...  I think.

bug
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Blazej Kozlowski -=O=- bug
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hola bug, soy una robusteza!
>It was a beautiful day/night Sun, 21 Oct 2001 04:45:53 GMT, when
>she...@lycos.com (ldb) wrote in alt.ascii-art that: 
>
>>So, he/ she is charging 10 bucks for this program. How much of that is
>>he/ she paying the ascii artists? Is he/ she at least keeping artist
>>initials on the ascii art?
>
>If he gets money for using his program and this program contains
>somebody elses pictures and he's not paying fees to authors than he's
>braking the law...  I think.

Correct. Copyright applies to ascii art as soon as it's created just
like everything else.
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QQ <pos...@softcows.com> 22 Oct 2001 02:13 · permalink · report
Thank you very much for your notice. I fill very sorry for the
artists. I am not intentional. I am not familiar with the law. Does I
still encroach the copyright if I change this soft to freeware or I
ask the artists for permission? If yes, I will re-design the program
and remove all ascii art from ImageChat, I will update the new program
in my site within one week.

"Paul \"Froggy\" Schneider" <froggy@eecs.cwru.edu> 22 Oct 2001 17:04 · permalink · report
"Bateau" <Its...@Not-A-Real-Address.com> wrote in message
news:Es3...@4ax.com...
> hola bug, soy una robusteza!
> >It was a beautiful day/night Sun, 21 Oct 2001 04:45:53 GMT, when
> >she...@lycos.com (ldb) wrote in alt.ascii-art that:
> >
> >>So, he/ she is charging 10 bucks for this program. How much of that is
> >>he/ she paying the ascii artists? Is he/ she at least keeping artist
> >>initials on the ascii art?
> >
> >If he gets money for using his program and this program contains
> >somebody elses pictures and he's not paying fees to authors than he's
> >braking the law...  I think.
>
> Correct. Copyright applies to ascii art as soon as it's created just
> like everything else.

Thing is, you can't sue for compensatory damages, but you can sue him to
get him to stop using the images.  In order to sue for compensatory
damages you have to actually register the copyright, which is quite
expensive.

- Froggy

hola Paul "Froggy" Schneider, soy una robusteza!
>"Bateau" <Its...@Not-A-Real-Address.com> wrote in message
>news:Es3...@4ax.com...
>> hola bug, soy una robusteza!
>> >It was a beautiful day/night Sun, 21 Oct 2001 04:45:53 GMT, when
>> >she...@lycos.com (ldb) wrote in alt.ascii-art that:
>> >
>> >>So, he/ she is charging 10 bucks for this program. How much of that is
>> >>he/ she paying the ascii artists? Is he/ she at least keeping artist
>> >>initials on the ascii art?
>> >
>> >If he gets money for using his program and this program contains
>> >somebody elses pictures and he's not paying fees to authors than he's
>> >braking the law...  I think.
>>
>> Correct. Copyright applies to ascii art as soon as it's created just
>> like everything else.
>
>Thing is, you can't sue for compensatory damages, but you can sue him to
>get him to stop using the images.  In order to sue for compensatory
>damages you have to actually register the copyright, which is quite
>expensive.

It's $30. That makes you eligible for statutory damages and legal fees
if the litigation is successful so you'll end up with more money.
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ldb <she...@lycos.com> 24 Oct 2001 02:33 · permalink · report
I uninstalled it tonight. I can't be sure yet but it seems to have
been making my computer have errors and crash several times. I didn't
see how it could be the culprit until I realized it was running
constantly, without me starting it up. Does anyone know what dbhelp
and gdi.exe errors would be from? Thats what I kept getting the past
couple of days. If they disappear now I'll know it was this program at
fault. If they don't disappear I'm back to the drawing board to figure
out what the problem is. :(

Laura


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    )\ \/ /(   http://www.geocities.com/theshedragon
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    ) /((\ (  Holiday, signature and dragon ascii art.
    )/  ))\(
    /  (   \    ldb

QQ <pos...@softcows.com> 24 Oct 2001 04:06 · permalink · report
I delete all the ascii art from the ascii art database in my soft and
update the soft to my site again.  It seems that I will use this soft
maybe only myself:(

Beetle <kev...@mail.ru> 24 Oct 2001 16:23 · permalink · report

ldb wrote:

> I uninstalled it tonight. I can't be sure yet but it seems to have
> been making my computer have errors and crash several times. I didn't
> see how it could be the culprit until I realized it was running
> constantly, without me starting it up. Does anyone know what dbhelp
> and gdi.exe errors would be from? Thats what I kept getting the past
> couple of days. If they disappear now I'll know it was this program at
> fault. If they don't disappear I'm back to the drawing board to figure
> out what the problem is. :(
>
> Laura
>
>     \  ,,  /
>     )\ \/ /(   http://www.geocities.com/theshedragon
>    )__\))/__(
>     ) /((\ (  Holiday, signature and dragon ascii art.
>     )/  ))\(
>     /  (   \    ldb

I wouldn't trust it, try installing a firewall like zonealarm (freeware at
http://www.zonelabs.com)  It might just be a trojan at work.  This
firewall will stop it.

Greetz,
Beetle/Kevertje.

QQ <pos...@softcows.com> 25 Oct 2001 12:47 · permalink · report
I delete all the ascii art from the ascii art database in my soft and
update the soft to my site again.  It seems that I will use this soft
maybe only myself:(

BTW, My program is not a trojan.

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