snow foolin diddle

 My name is Sexii. I have come to rape and pillage your ascii art.
 I take the ordinary and make it kissy-lick pretty.
 I am the sexifying ascii bandit.

If you would like a colored wallpaper of this see my homepage.
http://www.sexiiascii.homestead.com/

---

'snow foolin





  It's only a shovel              It really pushes          Oooh, I'm
  handle and some                 my buttons.                melting.
  lumps of coal, but
  it sure impresses                      \                     /
  the snow babes.                         \                   /
                                                         .-.
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     \             ## ##   jgs/Sexii    |   (:)               |
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        '-.__   __.-"                   \                     /
                                         '.                 .'
                                           '-..__     __..-`



---
          __
        ((..\___   /\    Sexii
        (( o/() \ /  \_   The Ticklii Spank 
        )) |()3__#____     Ascii Bandit
        (   \/        \
 sex...@hotmail.com \_    Divine Asciibation


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>

> My name is Sexii. I have come to rape and pillage your ascii art.
> I take the ordinary and make it kissy-lick pretty.
> I am the sexifying ascii bandit.

How about raping and pillaging someone
else's ASCII art?

I've made most of my ASCII pics for my
children -- it's disgusting to see what
you've done to them.

IMO, you're a sexually frustrated individual
who obviously can't create any ASCII art
on your own.

fo

It is desrespectful to the original artist to change their carefully
created ascii art like you are.  Improvements are one thing, but you
aren't helping anyone.  I would not want my name associated with any of
your ascii art whatsoever.  You should rethink why you are doing this
and the effect it could have on other individuals.  If you are tempted
to do this with ascii art stop drawing it.

Spunk1111 wrote:
> 
> >Message-id: <9bonc5$34c$1...@news.netmar.com>
> >
> 
> > My name is Sexii. I have come to rape and pillage your ascii art.
> > I take the ordinary and make it kissy-lick pretty.
> > I am the sexifying ascii bandit.
> 
> How about raping and pillaging someone
> else's ASCII art?
> 
> I've made most of my ASCII pics for my
> children -- it's disgusting to see what
> you've done to them.
> 
> IMO, you're a sexually frustrated individual
> who obviously can't create any ASCII art
> on your own.
> 
> fo

"Kyle Baker" wrote :
> It is desrespectful to the original artist to change their carefully
> created ascii art like you are.  Improvements are one thing, but you
> aren't helping anyone.  I would not want my name associated with any of
> your ascii art whatsoever.  You should rethink why you are doing this
> and the effect it could have on other individuals.  If you are tempted
> to do this with ascii art stop drawing it.


> Spunk1111 wrote:

> > > My name is Sexii. I have come to rape and pillage your ascii art.
> > > I take the ordinary and make it kissy-lick pretty.
> > > I am the sexifying ascii bandit.
> >
> > How about raping and pillaging someone
> > else's ASCII art?
> >
> > I've made most of my ASCII pics for my
> > children -- it's disgusting to see what
> > you've done to them.
> >
> > IMO, you're a sexually frustrated individual
> > who obviously can't create any ASCII art
> > on your own.

I don't find Sexii's postings anymore twisted than Tran's .. and since sexii actually
diddles something extra I like them more.

And judging from the posting I would say that Sexii CAN create art .. and diddles.

However not everyone likes to be diddled THAT way and I can understand Joan when she
object to her drawings made for kids being made into a sexualy oriented joke.

Sexii is however welcome to rediddle my art .. all of you are .. as long as the proper
credits are kept with the diddle .. as sexii does.

So Sexii may be a bandit .. but he/she is a polite bandit

> I don't find Sexii's postings anymore twisted than Tran's .. and since >sexii actually
> diddles something extra I like them more.


So you agree that they are twisted...and you like them???

We disagree on this.  If they are twisted, why look at them?  I think
the pictures are immoral and therefore it would be immoral to view
them.  It is not necessary to post pictures like that, but especially to
change somebody else's pictures and post them.  I don't care if somebody
gives credit or not.  Joan's work is being mistreated, credit or none.

"Kyle Baker" <k_m...@homail.com> wrote in message news:3AE...@homail.com...
> > I don't find Sexii's postings anymore twisted than Tran's .. and since >sexii actually
> > diddles something extra I like them more.
>
>
> So you agree that they are twisted...and you like them???

Yes. .. But this particular one was a bit much. Considering Joans work was for children.

> We disagree on this.  If they are twisted, why look at them?  I think
> the pictures are immoral and therefore it would be immoral to view
> them.  It is not necessary to post pictures like that, but especially to
> change somebody else's pictures and post them.  I don't care if somebody
> gives credit or not.  Joan's work is being mistreated, credit or none.

I agree with that , but I liked the other ones.

Am Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:52:19 GMT
schrieb Kyle Baker <k_m...@homail.com>:

*delurk*
Hi!

>> I don't find Sexii's postings anymore twisted than Tran's .. and since >sexii actually
>> diddles something extra I like them more.
>
>
>So you agree that they are twisted...and you like them???
>We disagree on this.  If they are twisted, why look at them?  I think
>the pictures are immoral and therefore it would be immoral to view
>them.  It is not necessary to post pictures like that, but especially to
>change somebody else's pictures and post them.  I don't care if somebody
>gives credit or not.  Joan's work is being mistreated, credit or none.

So, why is Tran still posting trash here? All he does is adding some
text to the pics. Don't tell me his postings are less immoral. Several
times they even lacked the initials. In contrary, Sexii tries to
make something more out of a pic. I do understand, that some artists
do not like their artwork sexified, but others don't mind, so why not
let him try his skills on those? And he definitely IS skilled. ^_^

Just add him to your killfile, if you don't like it. I think 99% of
this NG already did that with Tran. And as long as sexii 'diddles'
only artwork of those artists who don't mind...

Just my $0.02 - back to lurking. ^^;

quick OBASCII:
 _______                                ___
()______)            ___________________L_J______________________
|      |            [I remember an angel very similar to this one]
| L    |            [by some of the professionals around here... ]
|  o   |(\  ,,  /)  [Sorry, I didn't want to 'rip off' art. It   ]
|   v  |( \('')/ )  [just happened to look similar. ^^;;;        ]
|P + e | ( /qp\ )   [______________________________Lenz__________]
| e    |  /    \                        %%%
|  a   |  """"""                        [ ]
|   c  |                                [ ]
|    e |                                [ ]
===v====                                [ ]
   !                                  _\VYV7_

Lorenz Jugel

On 20 Apr 2001 07:09:57 GMT, sex...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> My name is Sexii. I have come to rape and pillage your ascii art.
[snip]
>If you would like a colored wallpaper of this see my homepage.
>http://www.sexiiascii.homestead.com/
[snip of tastelessness]
>---
>          __
>        ((..\___   /\    Sexii
>        (( o/() \ /  \_   The Ticklii Spank 
>        )) |()3__#____     Ascii Bandit
>        (   \/        \
> sex...@hotmail.com \_    Divine Asciibation

Ummmmm, ASCII-art should be viewable on a textbased browser like LYNX.
You have taken ASCII-art and changed it into something entirely
different. Did you get permission from the original artists to change
and manipulate their works? I would do so if I were you.

Clear your cache and take a look at your page with images and java
disabled.

The sig on your post is good though. Did you do that?

-llizard



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Kyle Baker <k_m...@homail.com> wrote:
KB> It is desrespectful to the original artist to change their carefully
KB> created ascii art like you are.  Improvements are one thing, but you
KB> aren't helping anyone.  I would not want my name associated with any of
KB> your ascii art whatsoever.  You should rethink why you are doing this
KB> and the effect it could have on other individuals.  If you are tempted
KB> to do this with ascii art stop drawing it.

You need a much richer life away from your computer.

-- 
Brad Murray    * Always carry a short length of fibre-optic cable. If
Perl Geek      * you get lost, then you can drop it on the ground, wait
VSCA Founder   * ten minutes, and ask the backhoe operator how to get
Magnet Oper    * back to civilization.                     (Alan Frame)

> quick OBASCII:
>  _______                                ___
> ()______)            ___________________L_J______________________
> |      |            [I remember an angel very similar to this one]
> | L    |            [by some of the professionals around here... ]
> |  o   |(\  ,,  /)  [Sorry, I didn't want to 'rip off' art. It   ]
> |   v  |( \('')/ )  [just happened to look similar. ^^;;;        ]
> |P + e | ( /qp\ )   [______________________________Lenz__________]
> | e    |  /    \                        %%%
> |  a   |  """"""                        [ ]
> |   c  |                                [ ]
> |    e |                                [ ]
> ===v====                                [ ]
>    !                                  _\VYV7_
>

Don't worry about the angel .. wings are usually done that way and i don't many other ways
a cone chape can be made. Small ascii's tends to look alike simply because there aren't
too many ways to make a small picture and make it look good. Sometimes people just produce
similar work or the exact same even though they never saw each others work.

I did a nice heart that later turned out to be "invented" by someone else before me..
That does'nt mean it as patented though .. I still claim myself as an originator of the
image .. I just don't claim i am the ONLY originator or even the first

Maybe I do need a life, I don't know :)  I just think that Joan's art
shouldn't be treated that way.  Well, I'll go work on that richer life
thing now.

bjm...@phreeow.net wrote:
> 
> Kyle Baker <k_m...@homail.com> wrote:
> KB> It is desrespectful to the original artist to change their carefully
> KB> created ascii art like you are.  Improvements are one thing, but you
> KB> aren't helping anyone.  I would not want my name associated with any of
> KB> your ascii art whatsoever.  You should rethink why you are doing this
> KB> and the effect it could have on other individuals.  If you are tempted
> KB> to do this with ascii art stop drawing it.
> 
> You need a much richer life away from your computer.
> 
> --
> Brad Murray    * Always carry a short length of fibre-optic cable. If
> Perl Geek      * you get lost, then you can drop it on the ground, wait
> VSCA Founder   * ten minutes, and ask the backhoe operator how to get
> Magnet Oper    * back to civilization.                     (Alan Frame)

Kyle Baker <k_m...@homail.com> wrote:

> I think the pictures are immoral and therefore it would be immoral to 
> view them.  

Kyle - "morality" is an awfully big word to bring into it. Take a deep 
breath and ask yourself whether a few ascii characters thrown together to 
suggest a naked body or sexual act truly transgresses any natural law of 
moral behaviour. 

art by definition cannot be immoral. The attitude that it could be immoral 
even just to _view_ certain art is an extremly dangerous one. Sure, now 
it's just a complaint about sexii's snow foolin' diddle -- but later 
it'll be withdrawing funding from museums because they exhibit something 
someone objects to, or throwing a composer in jail because he or she 
writes modernist, inaccessible music, also called immoral under certain 
regimes.

anyway, I happen to know that the women in sexii's pictures were all over
21, were consenting and well compensated, and under supervision at all
times during the ascii rendering :-)  No but really, no one is being hurt
by such pictures. I appreciate Joan's distaste because she made the pics
for her children, and out of respect for one of the true great ascii
artists, the diddler should remove Joan's art from his site now she's
disapproved. The coloured jpgs there are pretty dumb anyway. sexii should
stick to the smaller pics he's posted here, the one with a whip was quite
good.

> If you are tempted to do this with ascii art stop drawing it.

sorry, this sounds so much like the advice my old edition of "Scouting for
Boys" had about when you lie in bed at night and have impure thoughts.  
Howver much some people are dismayed by the thought of 15-yr old boys
having a bit of a wank of an evening, doctors agree it's a healthy and
harmless pasttime. Your advice to "resist the temptation" of drawing such
ascii - or diddling others' ascii - is similarly quaint. Some people like
to draw bunnies, some people like to add cocks to other people's bunnies.  
Killfile them and move on. Likewise for Tran Q - though I consider that
he provides a valuable reposting service, and if you strip the rude
messages, the art he posts is often good (though never his own of course). 
I did have to laugh at the "see no evil, hear no evil" etc monkeys 
recently.

in short, don't worry if you catch a glimpse of the {i} or other immoral 
ascii sequences--you won't be condemned to the eternal flames.

--monty, who was bored this afternoon

>why is Tran still posting trash here?

Because he is selfish and cares nothing for the effect of his efforts on others.

Nat

Lorenz Jugel wrote:
> 
> So, why is Tran still posting trash here?

My guess is: because he can.   :-)


-- 
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    /|__--__                       .                        __--__
    |\ '__                        /|\                        _{ _ 
    `.' / `.,_ _________           |           _________ _,.' (/ `.
    /  ||``._.'             ASCII ART CHAT!             `---'|:||,/
  .'   /|                                                   /|:| \
.'    /\ \         __   __                _                 `/|'\'
 ` `,/ /`,\        \ \ / /__ _ _ ___ _ _ (_)__ __ _         /,'\ \
   .'.'  /|         \ V / -_) '_/ _ \ ' \| / _/ _` |        |\  `.`.
 ,' /   / |          \_/\___|_| \___/_||_|_\__\__,_|        | \   \ `,
- `- -- `-'- -ejm-------------------------------------VK-- -`-' -- -' -

llizard wrote:
> sex...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > My name is Sexii. I have come to rape and pillage your ascii art.
> [snip]
> >If you would like a colored wallpaper of this see my homepage.
> >http://www.sexiiascii.homestead.com/
> 
> Ummmmm, ASCII-art should be viewable on a textbased browser like LYNX.

Yes.

> You have taken ASCII-art and changed it into something entirely
> different.

So? Maybe it's not correct to call it "ascii art" on the web page (and
it would be a good idea, IMO, to add plain ascii versions as well) but
the pictures themselves are just yet another form of "coloured text
art"...

> Did you get permission from the original artists to change
> and manipulate their works? I would do so if I were you.

Or better: make your own!   :-)


-- 
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    /|__--__                       .                        __--__
    |\ '__                        /|\                        _{ _ 
    `.' / `.,_ _________           |           _________ _,.' (/ `.
    /  ||``._.'             ASCII ART CHAT!             `---'|:||,/
  .'   /|                                                   /|:| \
.'    /\ \         __   __                _                 `/|'\'
 ` `,/ /`,\        \ \ / /__ _ _ ___ _ _ (_)__ __ _         /,'\ \
   .'.'  /|         \ V / -_) '_/ _ \ ' \| / _/ _` |        |\  `.`.
 ,' /   / |          \_/\___|_| \___/_||_|_\__\__,_|        | \   \ `,
- `- -- `-'- -ejm-------------------------------------VK-- -`-' -- -' -

Purity is a direction, not a line that we cross (Joshua Harris said
something like that.)  As far as the "natural law of 
moral behaviour", since when was man naturally moral?  I may have
misunderstood you.  Whether it is a real picture or not, it is still
suggesting the same thing.  Maybe I was too harsh, if so I am sorry.  I
am not perfect, just forgiven.

I don't think we agree on the above, but at least we agree that Joan's
art should not be changed in a way she does not approve of.  It is
disrespectful to her.  I didn't want to cause an argument, sorry. 
Thanks for listening.

uncle monty wrote:
> 
> Kyle Baker <k_m...@homail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I think the pictures are immoral and therefore it would be immoral to
> > view them.
> 
> Kyle - "morality" is an awfully big word to bring into it. Take a deep
> breath and ask yourself whether a few ascii characters thrown together to
> suggest a naked body or sexual act truly transgresses any natural law of
> moral behaviour.
> 
> art by definition cannot be immoral. The attitude that it could be immoral
> even just to _view_ certain art is an extremly dangerous one. Sure, now
> it's just a complaint about sexii's snow foolin' diddle -- but later
> it'll be withdrawing funding from museums because they exhibit something
> someone objects to, or throwing a composer in jail because he or she
> writes modernist, inaccessible music, also called immoral under certain
> regimes.
> 
> anyway, I happen to know that the women in sexii's pictures were all over
> 21, were consenting and well compensated, and under supervision at all
> times during the ascii rendering :-)  No but really, no one is being hurt
> by such pictures. I appreciate Joan's distaste because she made the pics
> for her children, and out of respect for one of the true great ascii
> artists, the diddler should remove Joan's art from his site now she's
> disapproved. The coloured jpgs there are pretty dumb anyway. sexii should
> stick to the smaller pics he's posted here, the one with a whip was quite
> good.
> 
> > If you are tempted to do this with ascii art stop drawing it.
> 
> sorry, this sounds so much like the advice my old edition of "Scouting for
> Boys" had about when you lie in bed at night and have impure thoughts.
> Howver much some people are dismayed by the thought of 15-yr old boys
> having a bit of a wank of an evening, doctors agree it's a healthy and
> harmless pasttime. Your advice to "resist the temptation" of drawing such
> ascii - or diddling others' ascii - is similarly quaint. Some people like
> to draw bunnies, some people like to add cocks to other people's bunnies.
> Killfile them and move on. Likewise for Tran Q - though I consider that
> he provides a valuable reposting service, and if you strip the rude
> messages, the art he posts is often good (though never his own of course).
> I did have to laugh at the "see no evil, hear no evil" etc monkeys
> recently.
> 
> in short, don't worry if you catch a glimpse of the {i} or other immoral
> ascii sequences--you won't be condemned to the eternal flames.
> 
> --monty, who was bored this afternoon

Veronica Karlsson <asc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>llizard wrote:
>> sex...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> > My name is Sexii. I have come to rape and pillage your ascii art.
>> [snip]
>> >http://www.sexiiascii.homestead.com/
>> 
[snip]
>> You have taken ASCII-art and changed it into something entirely
>> different.
>
>So? Maybe it's not correct to call it "ascii art" on the web page (and
>it would be a good idea, IMO, to add plain ascii versions as well) but
>the pictures themselves are just yet another form of "coloured text
>art"...

Certainly, if sexii wants to post this "art", then sexii can do so.
(Just don't call it ASCII-art) But more to the point, there should be
a note somewhere on the page stating who the original artists are and
that sexii has raped and pillaged those people's ascii-art.

If an original artist objects to sexii's pillaged version, then sexii
should remove the mangled version from the site.

obascii-art:
another example of JGS' artwork being mangled by marauders:

 _____                     . '@(@@@@@@@)@. (@@) `  .   '
(_____(_[h,       .  @@'((@@@@@@@@@@@)@@@@@)@@@@@@@)@
 oo  oo  o        @@(@@@@@@@@@@))@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@)@@` .
              @.((@@@@@@@)(@@@@@@@@@@@@@@))@\@@@@@@@@@)@@@  .
             (@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@)@@@@@@@@@@@\\@@)@@@@@@@@)
            (@@@@@@@@)@@@@@@@@@@@@@(@@@@@@@@//@@@@@@@@@) `
      __o   .@(@@@@)##&&&&&(@@@@@@@@)::_=(@\\@@@@)@@ .   .'
       /\     @@`(@@)###&&&&&!!;;;;;;::-_=@@\\@)@`@.
     _/|     `    @@(@###&&&&!!;;;;;::-=_=@.@\\@@     '
    '  /     ,,  `  @.#####&&&!!;;;::=-_= .@  \\
       `    &@__,      ####&&&!!;;::=_-   _--_  `
              " "       ###&&!!;;:-_=    `o--o'     ,,
   ( __E_     )           ##&&!;::_=               ~\/~----~
 ( /\%%<  j             ##&&!;:=        \|--m/        /|--w\
   /==\%<   <%\)        ##&&!:-       /\/----~
   \||=|=<  <%%\  )    #&!;:-        ~''~
 ( /|I=\=<   <[]|   m #&!;=       tornado by jgs
  ((       ) <==| ))  #&!-
          )      )     #&=        marred by debris
    (           )        #&-          from llizard
     |=||=|===|         \\#/'            and Veronica
 ^^^^          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


But I think in this case, Joan didn't mind so much.

-llizard



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> 
> Certainly, if sexii wants to post this "art", then sexii can do so.

Unfortunately.

> (Just don't call it ASCII-art) But more to the point, there should be
> a note somewhere on the page stating who the original artists are and
> that sexii has raped and pillaged those people's ascii-art.

Yes, otherwise it could look as if the original artist also helped make
it like that.  They may not want to have others think they drew that.

> 
> If an original artist objects to sexii's pillaged version, then sexii
> should remove the mangled version from the site.

Thank you, this is most important.  Very good Lizard, very good.

> 
> obascii-art:
> another example of JGS' artwork being mangled by marauders:
> 
>  _____                     . '@(@@@@@@@)@. (@@) `  .   '
> (_____(_[h,       .  @@'((@@@@@@@@@@@)@@@@@)@@@@@@@)@
>  oo  oo  o        @@(@@@@@@@@@@))@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@)@@` .
>               @.((@@@@@@@)(@@@@@@@@@@@@@@))@\@@@@@@@@@)@@@  .
>              (@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@)@@@@@@@@@@@\\@@)@@@@@@@@)
>             (@@@@@@@@)@@@@@@@@@@@@@(@@@@@@@@//@@@@@@@@@) `
>       __o   .@(@@@@)##&&&&&(@@@@@@@@)::_=(@\\@@@@)@@ .   .'
>        /\     @@`(@@)###&&&&&!!;;;;;;::-_=@@\\@)@`@.
>      _/|     `    @@(@###&&&&!!;;;;;::-=_=@.@\\@@     '
>     '  /     ,,  `  @.#####&&&!!;;;::=-_= .@  \\
>        `    &@__,      ####&&&!!;;::=_-   _--_  `
>               " "       ###&&!!;;:-_=    `o--o'     ,,
>    ( __E_     )           ##&&!;::_=               ~\/~----~
>  ( /\%%<  j             ##&&!;:=        \|--m/        /|--w\
>    /==\%<   <%\)        ##&&!:-       /\/----~
>    \||=|=<  <%%\  )    #&!;:-        ~''~
>  ( /|I=\=<   <[]|   m #&!;=       tornado by jgs
>   ((       ) <==| ))  #&!-
>           )      )     #&=        marred by debris
>     (           )        #&-          from llizard
>      |=||=|===|         \\#/'            and Veronica
>  ^^^^          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> But I think in this case, Joan didn't mind so much.
>
>-llizard

I agree, but I think that paticular picture is cool!

Kyle