Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 30 Nov 2001.
jmov fishtank
alt.ascii-art
· 44 messages · 30 Nov 2001 - 7 Dec 2001
well, take a look, it could be longer and I might add to it later
http://www.bluedwarf.net/mikechat/jmov/fishtank.htm
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On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 12:34:14 +0000, drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote: >On 30 Nov 2001 03:27:24 GMT, in alt.ascii-art, > (mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net (MJP)) wrote: > >> >>well, take a look, it could be longer and I might add to it later >> >>http://www.bluedwarf.net/mikechat/jmov/fishtank.htm 8< > >Where are the fish? It needs more depth and more plants. A filter would be >nice as well, and a heater. well go for it drstrange, lets see your effort -- _________________________________________________ /| _____________________________________________ | //| | _ _ _ _______ _____ | | // | | | \/ \/ \\__ __\ _ \ .irc.bluedwarf.net.| | //__| | | \ \ \_ \ \ __/ .www.bluedwarf.net.| | \\ | | | \__\ \ \\ \ \ | | \\ | | |_____\ \__\_____\___\ -=MikeChat=- | | \\| |_____________________________________________| | \|_________________________________________________|
> >. ` MJP ` . ` . ` . ` . ` . ` . ` . . ` . ` . ` . ` . ` > Where are the fish? It needs more depth and more plants. A filter would be > nice as well, and a heater. Where are your brains? You need more depth and more intelligence. Common sense would be nice as well. Come on, do you have to smash every single piece of work? Show us some of your art! nP / db
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 13:42:58 +0100, "nILS Podewski" <n...@brennsoft.net> wrote: >> >. ` MJP ` . ` . ` . ` . ` . ` . ` . . ` . ` . ` . ` . ` > >> Where are the fish? It needs more depth and more plants. A filter would be >> nice as well, and a heater. > >Where are your brains? You need more depth and more intelligence. Common >sense would be nice as well. > >Come on, do you have to smash every single piece of work? Show us some of >your art! > >nP / db > he doesn't appear to have any http://www.bluedwarf.net/mikechat/jmov/fishtank.htm <-- it aint a flatfish -- _________________________________________________ /| _____________________________________________ | //| | _ _ _ _______ _____ | | // | | | \/ \/ \\__ __\ _ \ .irc.bluedwarf.net.| | //__| | | \ \ \_ \ \ __/ .www.bluedwarf.net.| | \\ | | | \__\ \ \\ \ \ | | \\ | | |_____\ \__\_____\___\ -=MikeChat=- | | \\| |_____________________________________________| | \|_________________________________________________|
Hey that is a classic. It wud be really nice if the large fish turns around (within the frame) and becomes smaller as it goes around the castle. Really liked yur jmov. Cheers -dyno _________________ | i have no ,oo. | | _/ .sign / (w) | |(/(//)() / / | |__/______________| "MJP" <mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net> wrote in message news:3c0...@news.concentric.net... > > well, take a look, it could be longer and I might add to it later > > http://www.bluedwarf.net/mikechat/jmov/fishtank.htm > > > > > __________ > / \ ( > /____________\ (\) > |:_:_:_:_:_| )) > |_:_,--.:_:| (\// ) > |:_:|__|_:_| _ ) )) (( > _ |_ _ :_:| _ _ _ (_) (((( /)\` > | |_| |_| | _| | |_| |_| | o \\)) (( ( > \_:_:_:_:/|_|_|_|\:_:_:_:_/ . (( )))) > |_,-._:_:_:_:_:_:_:_.-,_| )) ((// > |:|_|:_:_:,---,:_:_:|_|:| ,-. )/ > |_:_:_:_,' `,_:_:_:_| _ o ,;'))(( > |:_:_:_/ _ | _ \_:_:_:| (_O (( )) > _____|_:_:_| (o)-(o) |_:_:_|--'`-. ,--. (((\'/ > ', ;|:_:_:| -( .-. )- |:_:_:| ', ; `--._\ /,---.~ \`)) > . ` |_:_:_| \`-'/ |_:_:_|. ` . ` /()\.__( ) .,-----'`-\(( > ', ;|:_:_:| `-' |:_:_:| ', ; ', ; `--'| \ ', ; ', ; ',')).,-- > . ` MJP ` . ` . ` . ` . ` . ` . ` . . ` . ` . ` . ` . ` > ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; > > > > -- > _________________________________________________ > /| _____________________________________________ | > //| | _ _ _ _______ _____ | | > // | | | \/ \/ \\__ __\ _ \ .irc.bluedwarf.net.| | > //__| | | \ \ \_ \ \ __/ .www.bluedwarf.net.| | > \\ | | | \__\ \ \\ \ \ | | > \\ | | |_____\ \__\_____\___\ -=MikeChat=- | | > \\| |_____________________________________________| | > \|_________________________________________________|
"MJP" <mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net> wrote in message news:3c0...@news.concentric.net... > > well, take a look, it could be longer and I might add to it later > > http://www.bluedwarf.net/mikechat/jmov/fishtank.htm > > > __________ > / \ ( > /____________\ (\) > |:_:_:_:_:_| )) > |_:_,--.:_:| (\// ) > |:_:|__|_:_| _ ) )) (( > _ |_ _ :_:| _ _ _ (_) (((( /)\` > | |_| |_| | _| | |_| |_| | o \\)) (( ( > \_:_:_:_:/|_|_|_|\:_:_:_:_/ . (( )))) > |_,-._:_:_:_:_:_:_:_.-,_| )) ((// > |:|_|:_:_:,---,:_:_:|_|:| ,-. )/ > |_:_:_:_,' `,_:_:_:_| _ o ,;'))(( > |:_:_:_/ _ | _ \_:_:_:| (_O (( )) > _____|_:_:_| (o)-(o) |_:_:_|--'`-. ,--. (((\'/ > ', ;|:_:_:| -( .-. )- |:_:_:| ', ; `--._\ /,---.~ \`)) > . ` |_:_:_| \`-'/ |_:_:_|. ` . ` /()\.__( ) .,-----'`-\(( > ', ;|:_:_:| `-' |:_:_:| ', ; ', ; `--'| \ ', ; ', ; ',')).,-- > . ` MJP ` . ` . ` . ` . ` . ` . ` . . ` . ` . ` . ` . ` > ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; Nicely done :) Especially enjoyed the blending of the fishes A cat stopper __________________________ \ .---___________________-.\ \\ /\ \\\ \\ \ \___________________\\\ \\ \|________-=-________| \\ \\ \____________________\ \\ \\________________________\\ `---------------------LGB-' --lgbeard
MJP wrote: > > well, take a look, it could be longer and I might add to it later > > http://www.bluedwarf.net/mikechat/jmov/fishtank.htm > > __________ > / \ ( > /____________\ (\) > |:_:_:_:_:_| )) > |_:_,--.:_:| (\// ) > |:_:|__|_:_| _ ) )) (( > _ |_ _ :_:| _ _ _ (_) (((( /)\` > | |_| |_| | _| | |_| |_| | o \\)) (( ( > \_:_:_:_:/|_|_|_|\:_:_:_:_/ . (( )))) > |_,-._:_:_:_:_:_:_:_.-,_| )) ((// > |:|_|:_:_:,---,:_:_:|_|:| ,-. )/ > |_:_:_:_,' `,_:_:_:_| _ o ,;'))(( > |:_:_:_/ _ | _ \_:_:_:| (_O (( )) > _____|_:_:_| (o)-(o) |_:_:_|--'`-. ,--. (((\'/ > ', ;|:_:_:| -( .-. )- |:_:_:| ', ; `--._\ /,---.~ \`)) > . ` |_:_:_| \`-'/ |_:_:_|. ` . ` /()\.__( ) .,-----'`-\(( > ', ;|:_:_:| `-' |:_:_:| ', ; ', ; `--'| \ ', ; ', ; ',')).,-- > . ` MJP ` . ` . ` . ` . ` . ` . ` . . ` . ` . ` . ` . ` > ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; This animation is a great idea! If it was a little bit longer it would make a cool screensaver. BTW: Please don't add a filter and heater to it - for the animation it is ok the way it is now (Nobody cares about people who write one line per posting and 10 postings per day anyway). I have a vision with this fishtank: Every ascii artist could add one fish (or a different event) to the animation. It would grow and become more and more interesting :) Markus -- \-/ http://www.jave.de O_< Get JavE now! \-/ J|a|v|E /| J|a|v|E /-\ Ascii-Art for eyeryone / \ - for free! /-\
Markus Gebhard - Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:05:08 +0100 >> http://www.bluedwarf.net/mikechat/jmov/fishtank.htm >> >> __________ >> / \ ( >> /____________\ (\) >> |:_:_:_:_:_| )) >> |_:_,--.:_:| (\// ) >> |:_:|__|_:_| _ ) )) (( >> _ |_ _ :_:| _ _ _ (_) (((( /)\` >> | |_| |_| | _| | |_| |_| | o \\)) (( ( >> \_:_:_:_:/|_|_|_|\:_:_:_:_/ . (( )))) >> |_,-._:_:_:_:_:_:_:_.-,_| )) ((// >> |:|_|:_:_:,---,:_:_:|_|:| ,-. )/ >> |_:_:_:_,' `,_:_:_:_| _ o ,;'))(( >> |:_:_:_/ _ | _ \_:_:_:| (_O (( )) >> _____|_:_:_| (o)-(o) |_:_:_|--'`-. ,--. (((\'/ >> ', ;|:_:_:| -( .-. )- |:_:_:| ', ; `--._\ /,---.~ \`)) >> . ` |_:_:_| \`-'/ |_:_:_|. ` . ` /()\.__( ) .,-----'`-\(( >> ', ;|:_:_:| `-' |:_:_:| ', ; ', ; `--'| \ ', ; ', ; ',')).,-- >> . ` MJP ` . ` . ` . ` . ` . ` . ` . . ` . ` . ` . ` . ` >> ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; ', ; > >This animation is a great idea! If it was a little bit longer it would >make a cool screensaver. Hey great idea! Are there any ascii-screensaver available yet? Ma�ion ob-ascii: . )\ \`.-' `-oo ) _ __,0) /.' )/ ' -- ____________________________________________________ \ o_. KAFAS ._o / / <O KleineAberFeineAsciiSammlung O> \ \ /| http://www.koslowski.purespace.de |\ / /__________________________________________________\ kOs
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 09:48:38 -0500, "DynoGuru" <dyn...@hotmail.com> wrote: >Hey that is a classic. >It wud be really nice if the large fish turns around (within the frame) and >becomes smaller as it goes around the castle. >Really liked yur jmov. > >Cheers >-dyno I had thought to have the big fish come back, and as it goes by have the little one dash out and nip at it, I still might. I like your idea too. -- _________________________________________________ /| _____________________________________________ | //| | _ _ _ _______ _____ | | // | | | \/ \/ \\__ __\ _ \ .irc.bluedwarf.net.| | //__| | | \ \ \_ \ \ __/ .www.bluedwarf.net.| | \\ | | | \__\ \ \\ \ \ | | \\ | | |_____\ \__\_____\___\ -=MikeChat=- | | \\| |_____________________________________________| | \|_________________________________________________|
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 16:45:11 +0000, drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote: >>>>http://www.bluedwarf.net/mikechat/jmov/fishtank.htm >> >> 8< >>> >>>Where are the fish? It needs more depth and more plants. A filter would be >>>nice as well, and a heater. >> >>well go for it drstrange, lets see your effort > >OK then: >I might finish this off when I get time. and then animate it, you seem to have missed the point to the post. (again) -- _________________________________________________ /| _____________________________________________ | //| | _ _ _ _______ _____ | | // | | | \/ \/ \\__ __\ _ \ .irc.bluedwarf.net.| | //__| | | \ \ \_ \ \ __/ .www.bluedwarf.net.| | \\ | | | \__\ \ \\ \ \ | | \\ | | |_____\ \__\_____\___\ -=MikeChat=- | | \\| |_____________________________________________| | \|_________________________________________________|
On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:05:08 +0100, Markus Gebhard <ukg...@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> wrote: >> >> http://www.bluedwarf.net/mikechat/jmov/fishtank.htm >> > >This animation is a great idea! If it was a little bit longer it would >make a cool screensaver. a new JavE feature? ;) > >BTW: Please don't add a filter and heater to it - for the animation it >is ok the way it is now (Nobody cares about people who write one line >per posting and 10 postings per day anyway). I won't > >I have a vision with this fishtank: Every ascii artist could add one >fish (or a different event) to the animation. It would grow and become >more and more interesting :) > >Markus Interesting idea..... but can you paste together multiple animations? That could be very interesting. -- _________________________________________________ /| _____________________________________________ | //| | _ _ _ _______ _____ | | // | | | \/ \/ \\__ __\ _ \ .irc.bluedwarf.net.| | //__| | | \ \ \_ \ \ __/ .www.bluedwarf.net.| | \\ | | | \__\ \ \\ \ \ | | \\ | | |_____\ \__\_____\___\ -=MikeChat=- | | \\| |_____________________________________________| | \|_________________________________________________|
Nice work... Ignore the other fishes that are either too skiny or too fat. This fish aquarium rocks... I do not get much time to really diddle or make ASCII Art, i do that in between spare time...(very rare) so I know the efforts that go into making of this. I hope a few others can LEARN to appriciate the time that goes into it Now, for the Bitchy part.... ;) <evil grin> How about some ASCII music to go with the ASCII animation, then it is complete ASCII Multimedia... How's that for a thought ;) ?:) "MJP" <mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net> wrote in message news:3c0...@news.concentric.net... > On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:05:08 +0100, Markus Gebhard <ukg...@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> wrote: > > >> > >> http://www.bluedwarf.net/mikechat/jmov/fishtank.htm > >> > > > > >This animation is a great idea! If it was a little bit longer it would > >make a cool screensaver. > > a new JavE feature? ;) > > > > >BTW: Please don't add a filter and heater to it - for the animation it > >is ok the way it is now (Nobody cares about people who write one line > >per posting and 10 postings per day anyway). > > I won't > > > > >I have a vision with this fishtank: Every ascii artist could add one > >fish (or a different event) to the animation. It would grow and become > >more and more interesting :) > > > >Markus > > > Interesting idea..... but can you paste together multiple animations? > That could be very interesting. > > > > -- > _________________________________________________ > /| _____________________________________________ | > //| | _ _ _ _______ _____ | | > // | | | \/ \/ \\__ __\ _ \ .irc.bluedwarf.net.| | > //__| | | \ \ \_ \ \ __/ .www.bluedwarf.net.| | > \\ | | | \__\ \ \\ \ \ | | > \\ | | |_____\ \__\_____\___\ -=MikeChat=- | | > \\| |_____________________________________________| | > \|_________________________________________________|
On Sat, 01 Dec 2001 11:03:42 +0000, drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>http://www.bluedwarf.net/mikechat/jmov/fishtank.htm ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >There was no mention of animation anywhere. no where except in the TOPIC and in the URL. -- _________________________________________________ /| _____________________________________________ | //| | _ _ _ _______ _____ | | // | | | \/ \/ \\__ __\ _ \ .irc.bluedwarf.net.| | //__| | | \ \ \_ \ \ __/ .www.bluedwarf.net.| | \\ | | | \__\ \ \\ \ \ | | \\ | | |_____\ \__\_____\___\ -=MikeChat=- | | \\| |_____________________________________________| | \|_________________________________________________|
> >>>>>http://www.bluedwarf.net/mikechat/jmov/fishtank.htm > >and then animate it, you seem to have missed the point to the post. (again) > > There was no mention of animation anywhere. A JMOV is a asciimation .. duh ..
> Now, for the Bitchy part.... ;) <evil grin> How about some ASCII music > to go with the ASCII animation, then it is complete ASCII Multimedia... There is no such thing as ASCII music .. but if you could place a control command in a JMOV frame that would execute javascript functions then you could trigger sound effects and midi-music .. and other stuff like rolling credits, DHTML curtains etc..
> There is no such thing as ASCII music ..
Well, someone could create it. All I'd would have to be would be something
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kind of music from it. Sorta like mini-midi =)
nP / db
In article <9ua4qo$emc...@OM9.omantel.net.om>, "Poster" <NOS...@POSTER.net> wrote: >"MJP" <mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net> wrote in message >news:3c0...@news.concentric.net... >> On Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:05:08 +0100, Markus Gebhard <ukg...@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> wrote: >> >> >> http://www.bluedwarf.net/mikechat/jmov/fishtank.htm >> >> > >> >This animation is a great idea! If it was a little bit longer it would >> >make a cool screensaver. >> >> a new JavE feature? ;) >> >> >BTW: Please don't add a filter and heater to it - for the animation it >> >is ok the way it is now (Nobody cares about people who write one line >> >per posting and 10 postings per day anyway). >> >> I won't >> >> >I have a vision with this fishtank: Every ascii artist could add one >> >fish (or a different event) to the animation. It would grow and become >> >more and more interesting :) >> > >> >Markus >> >> Interesting idea..... but can you paste together multiple animations? >> That could be very interesting. >> [snip] > >Nice work... > >Ignore the other fishes that are either too skiny or too fat. >This fish aquarium rocks... > >I do not get much time to really diddle or make ASCII Art, i do that >in between spare time...(very rare) so I know the efforts that go into >making of this. > >I hope a few others can LEARN to appriciate the time that goes into it > >Now, for the Bitchy part.... ;) <evil grin> How about some ASCII music >to go with the ASCII animation, then it is complete ASCII Multimedia... the sound of bubbles might be fun. But I've always found that the most wonderful thing about watching fish is the ability to hear the music of the spheres. If you added electronic music, then that music might be no longer available. What WOULD be cool is if the fishes' tails moved as they swam through the tank. , / . ~ ~ . ,/{ .'@ ))ejm'~.~ = - ~`` , , . ~ ~ . ,/{ .'@ ))ejm'~\{ = - ~`` ` , . ~ ~ . ,..~ .'@ ))ejm'~\{ > - ~`` \ , , . ~ ~ . ,/{ .'@ ))ejm'~\{ > - ~`` ` , . ~ ~ . .'@ ))ejm '..~ > - ~`` '~\{ \ -llizard -- '\ llizard aka ejm llizard@idirec+.ca ' \ ,^%--- A \@ > \ It might be hard to depict ^ `\/> this fish tail moving.... > /|^^ \\ ASCII-art & ASCII-animation www.crosswinds.net/~llizard/ascii-art/ Note: If you are e-mailing and hit the reply button, add an "e" to "idirct"; its absence is to stop the torment of automatic mailers.
"llizard" <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> wrote in message news:bop...@4ax.com... > > , Mandy? > . ~ ~ . , > .'@ ))ejm '..~ OO > > - ~`` '~\{ || > \ dd -- http://www.ite.mh.se/~joaal98/ascii ___ __ _ _ _ ________ _ / \\\ \ \| `.| `.| `\ \ \ \ `.' \ [-[-]-\\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ _, \ /_ /|/ /\ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ \ (jg) {v} |= \__/`._|\_\_\_,_\__|\_\_\ \_\ #// (\
drsquare writes > mikechat (MJP) wrote: >> drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote: >> >>>>>>>>http://www.bluedwarf.net/mikechat/jmov/fishtank.htm >> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>There was no mention of animation anywhere. >> >>no where except in the TOPIC and in the URL. > >Nothing in the topic, and all that was at that URL was a blank page with >some writing round the sides. yep ... that's another one of those ascii-art secrets again it appears that the readers here already know that 'jmov' is synonymous with ascii-animation (telepathy ?) def: a .jmov extension is a javaplayer v1.x ascii-animation file using a java-capable web-browser load the page and wait until the applet fully loads and stops ... then press the 'play' button obascii: .gilftiles. .giftSSSSSSsss..__ .gl dP phl dP dB8 dP ::: dP ... :: just scribble -- __ ___ __ :::/ |_ | .`):: ::( (-| | | <::: :::\__|___|_|_\::
"CeeJay" <use...@ceejay.cjb.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message news:3c08cdf6$0$213$edf...@dspool01.news.tele.dk... > > >>>>>http://www.bluedwarf.net/mikechat/jmov/fishtank.htm > > > >and then animate it, you seem to have missed the point to the post. (again) > > > > There was no mention of animation anywhere. > > A JMOV is a asciimation .. duh .. > Is there a difference? -- /sps .|. +----------------------+ (*.*) | Christmas sucks!!! | - +----------------------+
Isn't all music made up of A, B, C, D, E, F and G? Andrew > "CeeJay" <use...@ceejay.cjb.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message > news:3c08cf33$0$233$edf...@dspool01.news.tele.dk... > > > Now, for the Bitchy part.... ;) <evil grin> How about some ASCII music > > to go with the ASCII animation, then it is complete ASCII Multimedia... > > There is no such thing as ASCII music .. but if you could place a control > command in a JMOV frame that would execute javascript functions then you could > trigger sound effects and midi-music .. and other stuff like rolling credits, > DHTML curtains etc.. > >
nILS Podewski - Sat, 1 Dec 2001 15:28:44 +0100 >> There is no such thing as ASCII music .. > >Well, someone could create it. All I'd would have to be would be something >like a really small software synth that can read ascii-files and create some >kind of music from it. Sorta like mini-midi =) Yeah! And then we get on TV and bet we can draw a picture of the music. __ | | O' O' Pling Plang Pling .O _____ Plong Plung Plong .O | | .-. | Plang... |__| |( " )|O | ` `-((> |_____|/| Ma�ion :) -- ____________________________________________________ \ o_. KAFAS ._o / / <O KleineAberFeineAsciiSammlung O> \ \ /| http://www.koslowski.purespace.de |\ / /__________________________________________________\ kOs
Joaquim Almgren Gandara - Sat, 1 Dec 2001 15:42:40 +0100 >> , Mandy? >> . ~ ~ . , >> .'@ ))ejm '..~ OO >> > - ~`` '~\{ || >> \ dd LOL! Ma�ion -- ____________________________________________________ \ o_. KAFAS ._o / / <O KleineAberFeineAsciiSammlung O> \ \ /| http://www.koslowski.purespace.de |\ / /__________________________________________________\ kOs
> > > >>>>>http://www.bluedwarf.net/mikechat/jmov/fishtank.htm > > > > > >and then animate it, you seem to have missed the point to the post. > (again) > > > > > > There was no mention of animation anywhere. > > > > A JMOV is a asciimation .. duh .. > > > Is there a difference? Between what ?
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>> > >and then animate it, you seem to have missed the point to the post.
>(again)
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>> > There was no mention of animation anywhere.
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>> A JMOV is a asciimation .. duh ..
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> Is there a difference?
What's a JMOV? Something to do with Jave? Or a Javascript movie?
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On Sun, 02 Dec 2001 06:10:30 +0800, Bateau <Its...@Not-A-Real-Address.com> wrote: >____ On Sat, 1 Dec 2001 18:24:14 +0100 >\__/___ Sebastian Pena ran through the > LI-\o-' streets of alt.ascii-art > | waving an axe and screaming: > / \ >> >What's a JMOV? Something to do with Jave? Or a Javascript movie? it is animated text done with a JavE tool so, "Jmov" might call it ASCIImation, or aniSCII. go here: http://www.bluedwarf.net/mikechat/jmov/fishtank.htm use M$-IE or Netscape, Netscape you might have to hit RELOAD. -- _________________________________________________ /| _____________________________________________ | //| | _ _ _ _______ _____ | | // | | | \/ \/ \\__ __\ _ \ .irc.bluedwarf.net.| | //__| | | \ \ \_ \ \ __/ .www.bluedwarf.net.| | \\ | | | \__\ \ \\ \ \ | | \\ | | |_____\ \__\_____\___\ -=MikeChat=- | | \\| |_____________________________________________| | \|_________________________________________________|
On Sat, 01 Dec 2001 09:34:18 -0500, llizard <lli...@NOPOLLUTIONwildmail.com> wrote: > >What WOULD be cool is if the fishes' tails moved as they swam through >the tank. What I think would be real cool is if you made one of these animations http://www.bluedwarf.net/mikechat/jmov/lizardfish.htm I started one for you *Stars LIZARDFISH* in the title role ;) U ,~~| |\ , `~~| |=\ . ~ ~ . | |__\ .'@ ))ejm '..~ ]-------,|__|__,>--- > - ~`` '~\{ \=====o==o===.' \ [|___>^<.___.'`. __,,-,._ _,-' '` . ` . J.._ ___,.....,---......,--''''` . '`` ,-' . ' . ' . ' .`....---''' . ' . ' . ' . ' . ' . .-'' '` . '` . '` . '` . '`--..__'` . '` . '` . '` . '` . '` . MJP. ' . ' . ' . ' . ' '\. ' . ' . ' . ' . ' . '` . '` . '` . '` . '` . '` . '` .`. '` . '` . '` . '` . '` -- _________________________________________________ /| _____________________________________________ | //| | _ _ _ _______ _____ | | // | | | \/ \/ \\__ __\ _ \ .irc.bluedwarf.net.| | //__| | | \ \ \_ \ \ __/ .www.bluedwarf.net.| | \\ | | | \__\ \ \\ \ \ | | \\ | | |_____\ \__\_____\___\ -=MikeChat=- | | \\| |_____________________________________________| | \|_________________________________________________|
On 01 Dec 2001 02:57:07 GMT, mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net (MJP) provoked the following text: >>I have a vision with this fishtank: Every ascii artist could add one >>fish (or a different event) to the animation. It would grow and become >>more and more interesting :) >> >>Markus > >Interesting idea..... but can you paste together multiple animations? >That could be very interesting. Here's my fish, drawn in JavE and compressed it (i wish i could tell JavE the percentage with which to shrink the pic), this is what i managed to come up with: /--...___'-.._ ;,...._ '''-- -;-'' ''--.'\._ '' ,.'| /|XX`. '.'+ /'' ;' ,. .''| --' // '+ | \_ _'_'. : -.'+.._. _,-`+' ''.. \: \\''---':`. \\ ``_:\ ''" -.' Oops, i'll clean that up a bit... ____ /////////-...___ ////////////////// ,---""""""""'----///// /| / _ "\ //' / (.) '-/// ) ) _\\\ \_ ,' \\, -.______ _,--+' \| `\\\\\"""""" `\\\\ `\\\\ ''" `-.' There, i'll call it a Fishicus Idioticus. -- Peter Punk \ / ---\\\\--- / \ Castrate my email adress to reply. KEYBOARD:Instrument used to enter ERRORS into a Computer.
Donderfliegen - Sat, 01 Dec 2001 23:45:35 GMT
>i wish i could tell JavE the percentage with which to shrink the pic
I wait for this feature,too! :)
ob-ascii: shrinking...
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> Isn't all music made up of A, B, C, D, E, F and G?
Well... Not quite =) Might try to write an Ascii-Midi-Editor though =)
nP / db
____ On Sat, 01 Dec 2001 23:45:35 GMT
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>On 01 Dec 2001 02:57:07 GMT, mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net (MJP)
>provoked the following text:
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>>>I have a vision with this fishtank: Every ascii artist could add one
>>>fish (or a different event) to the animation. It would grow and become
>>>more and more interesting :)
>>>
>>>Markus
>>
>>Interesting idea..... but can you paste together multiple animations?
>>That could be very interesting.
>
>Here's my fish, drawn in JavE and compressed it (i wish i could tell JavE
>the percentage with which to shrink the pic), this is what i managed to come
>up with:
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> _;,...__ '-.._
> .-'` ''--.._ '. .-'|
> / OX`. './ .' ,'
> ; '-' /
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> `._:\ `'"
> `-.'
I cleaned it up too.
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Marion Koslowski wrote: > > Donderfliegen - Sat, 01 Dec 2001 23:45:35 GMT > > >i wish i could tell JavE the percentage with which to shrink the pic > > I wait for this feature,too! :) > > ob-ascii: shrinking... > _______ > | | | .-,-. _ > |---|---| |-+-| [+] > |___|___| '-'-' Don't worry - this feature is already finished for the next release. It will not work as good as you ob-ascii example, but I am quite amazed how good it works. You will be able to scale to any width/height from 1x1 to double the size from the original. This could also be a good effect for Ascii animations (jmovs). Here is an example: .... [original size 36x24] ,od88888bo. ,d88888888888b .... [30x20] ,dP""' `"Y888b ,. od8888bo. d' `"Y88b .d8b. , ,d888888888b ' `Y88[ , `Y8P' db ddP"' "Y8888 .d8b., `88b Ybo,`',d88) ' `Y8[ ,`Y8P'db ]88[ `Y888888P" `8b Yb,`',88) ,888) `Y8888P' => 88[ `888888" ,d888[ `""' ,88) Y8888P .od8888P ... .od8888[ `""'... ..od88888888bo, .d888b ..od888888bo, .888b `""Y888888bo. .d888888b `""Y88888bo .d88888b . `Y88b"Y88888P"' `Y8b . `88b"Y8888P" `Y8b :. `Y88[ `"""' `88[ :. Y88[ """' `88 |b |88b Y8b. `8[ :888[, :8) `8[ :888[ , :88) Yb :888)`b. d8' Yb :888) `b. d8P' `8b d888[ `Ybo. .d88 `8b. ,d888[ `Ybo. .d88[ Y8. .WARP' `Y888888P Y8b. .dWARP' `Y8888888P `88bo. .od888P' "WARP' `Y88bo. .od8888P' "YWARP' `Y888888888P' "' `"Y8888888888P"' `"' `"' war.tmt.997 `"Y8888P""' `""' warp.tmt.1997 | V ... [24x16] [17x12] d88888888 ,d888o ,8"" `Y88b ,. [14x8] d8888888 , d' `"888 , 888 8 ,888o d `Y88,:88db `88 Ybo`;d8) d888888 8b, 88[88888 ,88)`Y8888P ' Y888888) <= ,88[Y88P <= d88[ `"" o888`88P. .o88888o .88b ..d888888o, .d88b . .d888888888b : "Y8888888888 ""88888o..88888 8[ :8[,' 88 8[ 88, :8 :. `Y88[8888"'`88[ Y8b .WP'88888 Y8. ,88`8b..88 |b 88b Y8b Y888888 ""P 88b..d88P `8WR8P `8 888 b. d88 "888888" "' 8b. ,888 `Yb. .88[ Y88bo .o888PP `88AR8P `"8888888P" `" `Y888P"'wrptm.197 The result depends on the style the image has been painted in. Line style compressions will sometimes not look that good. Another example: /"\__ / |\ \ / // \=*""*=, / ,*" ,=","=,\ || ="=",="="=_,, | || / "=,= ,=*" ", || ; =",*" ,, \ || " "/ ,, @* ; | \ \; *@ . ; \ \ ; / \ \ \ *===* / \ \ ", ," \ ",=* *=,______ \ ) ( _____\ V" __/"\ \\ / / /|\ \ \\ | ,=*""*=/ \\| \ \\ `>._/,=","=,,"*,<` \ / \ | ,,_="="=,"="= || / >," "*=, =,=" \ ||/ _="/ ,, "*,"= ;\ || / ; *@ ,, \" " || / ; . @* ;/ / | , \ _ ; / / ; \ ( ) / / /; ; ", " ," / / ; ______,=* *=," / / /_____ ) ( / =,_ // ",V" "V," """**==,,_ // / \,_ "*=,_ // | . . | "*==,_ " , \ '>.__,=" "=,__.<' "* , " , \ \ _ / " , \ ___>,_ (X) _,< " \__/___ " "=_ )\ \ / \ " , _ , ' " , ; (X) ; " , "=,_ ; " ; " ,_ "*==,\ / "*=,_ = = "**===,,__ ", ," """**'>=, ,=<' /"\__ // +X\\=*"*=, |+ ="=,="==_,,| || / "== ,=" ", || " "/*,, @* ; |\\\\; *@ . / \\ \ *==* / \\",* *=,_____ \V" __/\___\ + ,=*"*=/ X++\\ \\\ `>./,=""=,"*,<` \ / \>",,_*=,=,="\ |+/ /="; *@ ,,,\""\ || / ; . @* ;/ / | ; \\ () /;///; _____,*, " *=,"///; /____ ) ( /=,_ // "/V" "V,_ ""**=,,_*=,_ X/ '>._,=" "=,_.<' "*=,_* , " ,", \ \ _ / ", \_____>, (" _,<"_ " /\ \\ ' "" , ; () ; ", ",_ ; " ; " ,"*,_ "*=,\= =/ "*===,,""**'>, ,=<'" The snow dancers from jjs do not scale so good - but I think it still is a good state to start with if you want to change the size of an image. BTW: Of course you can change width/height independently. As I already said most of the new features for the next release are finished, but some very important things do not work now and so I have to fix them. Unfortunately I have very few spare time at the moment. I will try to finish the next release as soon as possible. Stay tuned. Markus -- \-/ http://www.jave.de O_< Get JavE now! \-/ J|a|v|E /| J|a|v|E /-\ Ascii-Art for eyeryone / \ - for free! /-\
On Mon, 03 Dec 2001 06:48:00 +0800, Bateau <Its...@Not-A-Real-Address.com> provoked the following text: >>>>I have a vision with this fishtank: Every ascii artist could add one >>>>fish (or a different event) to the animation. It would grow and become >>>>more and more interesting :) >>> >>>Interesting idea..... but can you paste together multiple animations? >>>That could be very interesting. >> >>Here's my fish, drawn in JavE and compressed it (i wish i could tell JavE >>the percentage with which to shrink the pic), this is what i managed to come >>up with: >> >> /'--...___ >> _;,...__ '-.._ >> .-'` ''--.._ '. .-'| >> / OX`. './ .' ,' >> ; '-' / >> ,>- | >> \_ _.'`'. \ >> `-._____ _.-'\ '-' >> `\\ \\-----' `.\\\ >> `._:\ `'" >> `-.' > >I cleaned it up too. WOOHO!!! We're having a clean-up party!!! :-)) ObASCII: Mop and bucket ~\ u -- __ ___ / ) _/_ _(_ /'_ _ _ /(_/()/)(/(-/ / (/(-(/(-/) _/ Castrate me to reply by e-mail The English have no respect for their language, and will not teach their children to speak it.
Markus Gebhard - Mon, 03 Dec 2001 18:28:39 +0100 >> >i wish i could tell JavE the percentage with which to shrink the pic >> I wait for this feature,too! :) >Don't worry - this feature is already finished for the next release. >Stay tuned. Great! This encourages me to try to send a wish-list to Bill Gates, too, but I think he wouldn't get mails sized 3GB... ;) Ma�ion ob-ascii: Kickboard T %-% -- ____________________________________________________ \ o_. KAFAS ._o / / <O KleineAberFeineAsciiSammlung O> \ \ /| http://www.koslowski.purespace.de |\ / /__________________________________________________\ kOs
Markus Gebhard <ukg...@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> wrote in message news:<3C0...@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>... > Marion Koslowski wrote: > > > > Donderfliegen - Sat, 01 Dec 2001 23:45:35 GMT > > > > >i wish i could tell JavE the percentage with which to shrink the pic > > > > I wait for this feature,too! :) > > > > ob-ascii: shrinking... > > _______ > > | | | .-,-. _ > > |---|---| |-+-| [+] > > |___|___| '-'-' > > Don't worry - this feature is already finished for the next release. It > will not work as good as you ob-ascii example, but I am quite amazed how > good it works. You will be able to scale to any width/height from 1x1 to > double the size from the original. > This could also be a good effect for Ascii animations (jmovs). Here is > an example: > > > The result depends on the style the image has been painted in. Line > style compressions will sometimes not look that good. Another example: > > /"\__ > / |\ \ > / // \=*""*=, > / ,*" ,=","=,\ > || ="=",="="=_,, | > || / "=,= ,=*" ", > || ; =",*" ,, \ > || " "/ ,, @* ; > | \ \; *@ . ; > \ \ ; / > \ \ \ *===* / > \ \ ", ," > \ ",=* *=,______ > \ ) ( _____\ > V" __/"\ \\ > / / /|\ \ \\ > | ,=*""*=/ \\| \ \\ > `>._/,=","=,,"*,<` \ / > \ | ,,_="="=,"="= || / > >," "*=, =,=" \ ||/ > _="/ ,, "*,"= ;\ || > / ; *@ ,, \" " || > / ; . @* ;/ / | > , \ _ ; / / > ; \ ( ) / / /; > ; ", " ," / / ; > ______,=* *=," / / > /_____ ) ( / =,_ > // ",V" "V," """**==,,_ > // / \,_ "*=,_ > // | . . | "*==,_ " , > \ '>.__,=" "=,__.<' "* , " , > \ \ _ / " , > \ ___>,_ (X) _,< " > \__/___ " "=_ > )\ \ > / \ > " , _ , > ' " , ; (X) ; > " , "=,_ ; " ; > " ,_ "*==,\ / > "*=,_ = = > "**===,,__ ", ," > """**'>=, ,=<' > > > /"\__ > // +X\\=*"*=, > |+ ="=,="==_,,| > || / "== ,=" ", > || " "/*,, @* ; > |\\\\; *@ . / > \\ \ *==* / > \\",* *=,_____ > \V" __/\___\ > + ,=*"*=/ X++\\ \\\ > `>./,=""=,"*,<` \ / > \>",,_*=,=,="\ |+/ > /="; *@ ,,,\""\ || > / ; . @* ;/ / | > ; \\ () /;///; > _____,*, " *=,"///; > /____ ) ( /=,_ > // "/V" "V,_ ""**=,,_*=,_ > X/ '>._,=" "=,_.<' "*=,_* , " ,", > \ \ _ / ", > \_____>, (" _,<"_ " > /\ \\ > ' "" , ; () ; > ", ",_ ; " ; > " ,"*,_ "*=,\= =/ > "*===,,""**'>, ,=<'" > This only took a few minutes to clean up. Nice feature, would be greatly speed up drawing a series of frames of an object receding/approching the viewer. /"\__ _,,_ / ^\\",","\ / ,*",="-"_;,| H ;,",,-*"' ,,\ H " "/ ,, @" ; \\ \; "@ ' \\ \ *==* / \\ ,* *,____ \V" _,,_ _/"\-.\ | /",","//^| \ \\ \ |,;_"-"=,"*, \ / >/,, '"*=,=", H .; "@ ,, \"",/H / ' @" ;/ // ; \ () /" // ____,* *, // /.---) "V/=,_ // "| |,_ "'*=,_ \ \ .' '. /' "*=, *=, \ )"' '"( "-, `-. \_/E"- () -<. ", . ^" \ " ' " , ; () ; ", ",_ ; ; "*,_ "*=-\ / "*==-,,__>=,_ _,=" jjs > The snow dancers from jjs do not scale so good - but I think it still is > a good state to start with if you want to change the size of an image. > BTW: Of course you can change width/height independently. > > As I already said most of the new features for the next release are > finished, but some very important things do not work now and so I have > to fix them. Unfortunately I have very few spare time at the moment. I > will try to finish the next release as soon as possible. Stay tuned. > > Markus
M...@Kasperhausen.de wrote: > Great! This encourages me to try to send a wish-list to Bill Gates, > too, but I think he wouldn't get mails sized 3GB... ;) I don't accept 'wish lists.' ,,////, You do it MY way, or you ,//////\\ don't do it at all! // [.]-[.] / | _\) \ __/ \__/ -- _.---._ `-._.-' | | | | | | | |_.-+-._| WinDoze XP: 'No you can't.' `-._.-' | | | | | | | |_.---._| `-._.-'
> '\ llizard aka ejm llizard@idirec+.ca > ' \ ,^%--- > A \@ > \ It might be hard to depict > ^ `\/> this fish tail moving.... > > > /|^^ > \\ ASCII-art & ASCII-animation > '\ llizard aka ejm llizard@idirec+.ca > ' \ ,^%--- > A \@ > \ It might be hard to depict > ` `\/> this fish tail moving.... > > > /|^^ > \\ ASCII-art & ASCII-animation > '\ llizard aka ejm llizard@idirec+.ca > ' \ ,^%--- > A \@ > \ It might be hard to depict > ' `\/> this fish tail moving.... > > > /|^^ > \\ ASCII-art & ASCII-animation Well, difficult. Joey
On Thu, 6 Dec 2001 22:13:02 +0100, "Johannes 'Joey' R�ssel" <joh...@web.de> wrote: ---------8<-------------- > >Well, difficult. > >Joey > > and very subtle -- _________________________________________________ /| _____________________________________________ | //| | _ _ _ _______ _____ | | // | | | \/ \/ \\__ __\ _ \ .irc.bluedwarf.net.| | //__| | | \ \ \_ \ \ __/ .www.bluedwarf.net.| | \\ | | | \__\ \ \\ \ \ | | \\ | | |_____\ \__\_____\___\ -=MikeChat=- | | \\| |_____________________________________________| | \|_________________________________________________|
> >>Come on, do you have to smash every single piece of work? Show us some of > >>your art! > >he doesn't appear to have any > And I suppose you do? He does actually. .. and a LOT of it.
CeeJay wrote: > > > >>Come on, do you have to smash every single piece of work? Show us some of > > >>your art! > > > >he doesn't appear to have any > > > And I suppose you do? > > He does actually. .. and a LOT of it. Who? -- ##### c ^ OO /\\\\ ##### | /|\ `^^^^^^^%-- '||` | \\\\ #### <@ \ / \ " " \ ha ha ha dd / @> \\\| ### _| |_ \\| ### (_ http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/cgi/asciichat/ _) == \ / A S C I I A R T C H A T \ ||\
> > > >>Come on, do you have to smash every single piece of work? Show us some of > > > >>your art! > > > > > >he doesn't appear to have any > > > > > And I suppose you do? > > > > He does actually. .. and a LOT of it. > > Who? MJP Pay attention to the thread. Surely your newsserver doesn't drop that many messages.
CeeJay <use...@ceejay.cjb.REMOVEnet> schreef in berichtnieuws 3c10ff97$0$77384$edf...@dspool01.news.tele.dk... > > > > >>Come on, do you have to smash every single piece of work? Show us some > of > > > > >>your art! > > > > > > > >he doesn't appear to have any > > > > > > > And I suppose you do? > > > > > > He does actually. .. and a LOT of it. > > > > Who? > > MJP > > Pay attention to the thread. Surely your newsserver doesn't drop that many > messages. > > Unfortunately, mine does...
____ On Fri, 7 Dec 2001 18:44:00 +0100
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>> > > >>Come on, do you have to smash every single piece of work? Show us some
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>> > > >>your art!
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>> > > >he doesn't appear to have any
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>> > He does actually. .. and a LOT of it.
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Actually he was talking about drsquare not MJP. MJP posted a pic and
drsquare commented on it and then nILS(?) made that comment at the top
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CeeJay wrote: > > > > > >>Come on, do you have to smash every single piece of work? Show us some of > > > > >>your art! > > > > > > > >he doesn't appear to have any > > > > > > > And I suppose you do? > > > > > > He does actually. .. and a LOT of it. > > > > Who? > > MJP > > Pay attention to the thread. Surely your newsserver doesn't drop that many > messages. * The server I normally use used to keep messages for two days (at the moment it doesn't seem to keep them at all, but that's a different story). Many threads are longer than that. * One shouldn't have to "pay attention to the thread". One should be able to delete read messages without having to worry about back-tracking to figure out who wrote what. * People sort the messages in different ways (and not everybody uses "threading"). * Killfiling... * Crossposting... All these things (and probably a few others as well) affect how well one can "pay attention to the thread". Just because *you* happen to see a "thread" there doesn't mean everybody else will, or that it will look the same as it does in your news reader. Snipping the attributions is rude. Please don't do it. -- ##### c ^ OO /\\\\ ##### | /|\ `^^^^^^^%-- '||` | \\\\ #### <@ \ / \ " " \ ha ha ha dd / @> \\\| ### _| |_ \\| ### (_ http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/cgi/asciichat/ _) == \ / A S C I I A R T C H A T \ ||\
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