Proportional spacing question

Is there a "hard space" character within ascii dos.

I am creating ascii art ...but these pictures only work within a fixed
font.  If I paste into an editor  that uses proportional spacing, the
picture is distorted. 

 Is there any tricks i can use ie "hard space" character instead of
using the space bar, to preserve the picture shape


any help greatly appreciated........

In article <34e...@news.demon.co.uk>, 
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>I am creating ascii art ...but these pictures only work within a fixed
>font.  If I paste into an editor  that uses proportional spacing, the
>picture is distorted. 
>
> Is there any tricks i can use ie "hard space" character instead of
>using the space bar, to preserve the picture shape


No.  (you have to stick to typewriter fonts).



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Andrew J wrote in message <34e...@news.demon.co.uk>...
>Is there a "hard space" character within ascii dos.

>I am creating ascii art ...but these pictures only work within a fixed
>font.  If I paste into an editor  that uses proportional spacing, the
>picture is distorted.

Proportional spacing?  I don't understand, do you mean a proportional font?
If all your letters are not the same size then you are using the wrong font,
but I thought (since this seems to be DOS) that DOS only had one icky
monospaced font?

These two lines should line up for you (with spaces & all):
iiii iii iii   iii ii    iii
mm mmmmm   mmmm  mmmmmmmmmmm

Oh wait, rereading this I see what you mean.  You _should_ be using fixed
font.  Any editor that is 'sophisticated' enough to manage proportional
fonts *should* have an option to make it monospaced.  If it supports
TrueType Fonts, tell it to use (for example) Courier New.

If you change fonts from monospaced to proportional, or proportional to
monospaced, or even from one proportional font to another, then the
apperance _will_ change, almost by definition.  That's a (sad) fact of life,
and the reason we have different fonts. . .

> Is there any tricks i can use ie "hard space" character instead of
>using the space bar, to preserve the picture shape

As far as I can remember, "hard space" *IS* the space bar.. if you mean a
"soft space" or a "non-breaking space" or a "sticky space" then the
(Windows) character is ALT-0160.  But beware that 99% of the people on this
group will flame you if they find out you're using it.

>>BKNambo
(that 1% is newbies who haven't read the FAQ.)
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.------------------- Andrew J wrote...
| Is there a "hard space" character within ascii dos.
| 
| I am creating ascii art ...but these pictures only work within a fixed
| font.  If I paste into an editor  that uses proportional spacing, the
| picture is distorted. 
| 
|  Is there any tricks i can use ie "hard space" character instead of
| using the space bar, to preserve the picture shape
| 
| 
| any help greatly appreciated........
| 
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Well use an editor that DOESN`T use proportional spacing:

 _____         _
|_   _|____  _| |_
  | |/ _ \ \/ / __|
  | |  __/>  <| |_
 _|_|\___/_/\_\\__|
| ____|__| (_) |_ ___  _ __ ___
|  _| / _` | | __/ _ \| '__/ __|
| |__| (_| | | || (_) | |  \__ \
|_____\__,_|_|\__\___/|_|  |___/

Unix:      vi
           pico
           emacs
           jed
           joe
           ed

Windows95: Notepad (Comes with Windows!)
           EDIT.COM (Comes with windows!)
           MicroEMACS
           EditPad
           PFE

Windows3:  Notepad (Comes with Windows!)
           MicroEMACS
           PFE

MSDOS:     EDIT.COM (Comes with DOS 5 and 6 - Type EDIT at command line)
           QEdit
           MicroEmacs
           GNU Emacs

Amiga:     Ed (On Workbench Disk - run 'Ed <filename>' in shell)
           MicroEMACS (Supplied with Workbench on Extras disk)
           Blacks Editor
           CygnusEd
           AZ

AppleMac:  Nisus

Linux:     joe