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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 2 Nov 1998.
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Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.comASCIIart> ASCII art 2 Nov 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Colin--
Please email me.. I'd like to share something with you.
And don't worry-- I would not give away your true email address to anyone.
-joan
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> Colin--
> Please email me.. I'd like to share something with you.

A new treatment for the mad cow disease?

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Martin Atkins <zne...@ovtsbbg.pbz> ASCII art 8 Nov 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
.----- On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 03:13:10 GMT, Pete Casso posted:
|> Colin--
|> Please email me.. I'd like to share something with you.
|
|A new treatment for the mad cow disease?
|
'--------------------

How can one get mad cow disease from a MadDogStein bite? Must be a very
strange dog!!! :o)

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Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> ASCII art 8 Nov 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Martin Atkins <zne...@ovtsbbg.pbz> wrote:
>.----- On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 03:13:10 GMT, Pete Casso posted:
>|> Colin--
>|> Please email me.. I'd like to share something with you.
>|
>|A new treatment for the mad cow disease?
>|
>'--------------------

>How can one get mad cow disease from a MadDogStein bite? Must be a very
>strange dog!!! :o)

Oh so...here you go again feedng Casso (and me) with bait postings to 
encourage him excesses. 

And get your attributes right when you are quoting rom messages. It was Joan
Stark who asked me to Email her...not CASSO.  Gee you're fast becoming a real
Turkey, Martin.

Casso needs no bait and most people on this newsgroup have tried and are
trying to ignore him completely...but not you!  No! No! No! Not you!
Veronica Karlsson has told you what to do many times...Casshole is a
complete Twit so just ignore him. Do you know better than old experienced
User of this newsgroup Martin?  I think not! 


I think your immaturity is showing badly...how old are you?  No more than 15?

Although you have shown a lot of talent in this newsgroup for your age  
you are repeatedly letting yourself down badly with some very stupid postings.


You did the same only a day or two ago by feeding and resurrecting the 
SPACE TRAVEL thread...when it had already been dead for 6days. 
Please don't be a "Casshole" Martin...you can do much better than that.


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***What is a troll?

A fisherman would say it means to trail worms through water teeming
with  fish, hoping for a bite.  In newsgroup terminology, it means
pretty much the same thing.

***What is the objective of the troll?

The hobbyist may want nothing more than to provoke a reaction from
the newsgroup.  Some do it merely to call attention to themselves.
There are career trolls who are dedicated to filling newsgroups with
off-topic posts, flames, and general confusion.  Some trolls are
simple, while some are quite elaborate and long-running.  Some
trolls have achieved a degree of infamy.  You can find out who they
are by looking for the word 'troll and usenet' using any search engine.

***Is trolling only for the lonely?

No!  The happiest trolls travel in packs.  The more the merrier.
They give aid and encouragement to one another in their mission to
destroy the newsgroups they infest.

***What are the tools of the trolling trade?

Well, you have asked a big question there.  For the creative and
enterprising troller,  there are just too many to list.  Here's a
brief sampling:

1. Hidden identities work well.  As has been noted in the past, AOL
gives 5 screen names.  Now, those can be used to good advantage.
The troller can appear to be 5 altogether different people as
he/she/it carefully fans the flames.  Seemingly endless off-topic
threads that say nothing and go absolutely nowhere can be
constructed in this fashion. But if someone notices that there seem
to be 'too many' AOLers in the group, there's always:

2. REMAILERS.  You can have all of these you want.  A different
identity for every day of the week. Or, if this isn't anonymous
enough for your purposes, try:

3. ANONYMOUS remailers.  It is said these are not easy to learn how
to work, but well worth the effort to the would-be troller.

4. Cultivate other trollers for *buddies*.  They are handy for
backing up your ludicrous claims and other falsehoods.  They will
add to the general chaos in the newsgroup you are attacking.  You
will have need of your *buddies* as the posts grow further and
further off-topic.

And as the other people in the group begin objecting to your nonsense.

5. Never underestimate the power of e-mail.  A troller can stay just
behind the scenes, but still participate in the fun via e-mail.
That person can use e-mail to encourage others to do their dirty
work.  Posting objectionable comments and so on.  The beauty of
staying disengaged in the nasty on-board comments, is that the
troller's reputation remains dainty.  It's very important to have at
least one troller of the bunch free to appear to smooth things over
with the general population of the group.

         -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+

***This is the Help Section for Trollers in Distress***

1. HELP!  I've been identified as a troll!  Whatever will I do?
Call them a troll right back.  (Optional: Get your friends to agree
with you.)

2.  HELP!  I've been accused of making off-topic posts.  Whatever
will I do?

Forthrightly declare that their own posts complaining about you are
off-topic.  Remind them that the group is unmoderated and you can
post anything you please, so there.  Bring out some of your extra
addresses to flame them.

3. HELP!  I've been caught in a lie.

Take your pick:  Change the subject,  claim your posts were tampered
with/nuked, claim the person who is calling you a liar is a liar,
declare that you are afraid of the person, say the person has a
mental problem, say it's a free country and you have the right to
lie if you want to.  Failing all that, get one or all of your
aliases to say it.

4.. HELP!  Nobody likes me.

Well, what did you expect?  Look at what you do for a living.  Grow
a thicker skin.

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Bye,

Martin Atkins wrote:
> How can one get mad cow disease from a MadDogStein bite? Must be a very
> strange dog!!! :o)

It is a very strange patient, he likes likes my asshole so much, he is
hanging in there, just like my hemorrhoids! :o)))

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Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.comASCIIart> ASCII art 9 Nov 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
>Message-id: <910...@mnementh.southern.co.n>>>Must be a very strange
dog!!! 

how about a five-teated cow/dog?
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Martin Atkins <zne...@ovtsbbg.pbz> ASCII art 11 Nov 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
.----- On 8 Nov 1998 17:03:12 GMT, Colin Douthwaite posted:
|Martin Atkins <zne...@ovtsbbg.pbz> wrote:
|>.----- On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 03:13:10 GMT, Pete Casso posted:
|>|> Colin--
|>|> Please email me.. I'd like to share something with you.
|>|
|>|A new treatment for the mad cow disease?
|>|
|>'--------------------
|
|>How can one get mad cow disease from a MadDogStein bite? Must be a very
|>strange dog!!! :o)
|
|Oh so...here you go again feedng Casso (and me) with bait postings to 
|encourage him excesses. 
'---------------------------
It was just a friendly comment... point taken though.

.---------------------------
|And get your attributes right when you are quoting rom messages. It was Joan
|Stark who asked me to Email her...not CASSO.  Gee you're fast becoming a real
|Turkey, Martin.
'---------------------------
It must have been Petey that removed that, since I didn`t edit the quote in
any way other than removing the sig as I usually do. I didn`t have the
original post so didn`t know who wrote that. Squark.

.---------------------------
|Casso needs no bait and most people on this newsgroup have tried and are
|trying to ignore him completely...but not you!  No! No! No! Not you!
|Veronica Karlsson has told you what to do many times...Casshole is a
|complete Twit so just ignore him. Do you know better than old experienced
|User of this newsgroup Martin?  I think not! 
'---------------------------
No comment.

.---------------------------
|I think your immaturity is showing badly...how old are you?  No more than 15?
'---------------------------
You are correct, I am only 15. However I do not recollect any such postings
from Veronica, and I am not immature. In fact, I think that this petty reply
to a short light hearted message shows even greater immaturity than the
original message did.

.---------------------------
|Although you have shown a lot of talent in this newsgroup for your age  
|you are repeatedly letting yourself down badly with some very stupid postings.
'---------------------------
Stupid postings eh? Well I`m not stupid, or in anyway inexperienced with
USENET. I have bloody been using it for at least five years now, and been in
this newsgroup almost that long. I think what you are basically getting at
is that you want to have this newsgroup entirely to youurself, where you can
post things to your heart's content without annoying anyone.


.---------------------------
|You did the same only a day or two ago by feeding and resurrecting the 
|SPACE TRAVEL thread...when it had already been dead for 6days. 
|Please don't be a "Casshole" Martin...you can do much better than that.
'---------------------------

I did not 'resurrect' anything. I just asked that it should stop, and in a
much nicer way that how you did for that matter.
And I can`t see it anymore, since I have the five copies of it on ignore.


<snip of troll FAQ>

I`m definately not a troll.

Byez,
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Matthew Thomas <mpt...@spamfree.land> ASCII art 12 Nov 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Colin Douthwaite wrote:
> 
> Martin Atkins <zne...@ovtsbbg.pbz> wrote:
> >...
> 
> Well if you are so damned experienced in alt.ascii-art over 5 years
> then you should know well that will happen if you feed Casso...so now
> having fed him...you blame Casso for doing something he cannot, in
> turn, resist doing?   Bah!  Humbug!

Why not? You blame Casso all the time ... and you `feed' him more than
anybody else in the group does.

>...
> > I think what you are basically getting at is that you want to have
> > this newsgroup entirely to yourself, where you can post things to
> > your heart's content without annoying anyone.
> 
> Bzzzt!  If that's what you think...then you would be dead wrong.
> 
> Nothing could be more dull or boring than a newsgroup with one
> person as the only poster!

Oh ... dear.

You really didn't get it, Colin, did you?

It was SARCASM, Colin. 
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In other words, `a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on
bitter, caustic, and often ironic language' [Webster].

You bitch at other people in the group so often (and yes, I can see it
coming now, you'll bitch at me about this posting too, but I don't care)
that <SARCASM>one could be forgiven for thinking that you wanted no-one
else besides yourself in the group at all</SARCASM>.

Martin's comment was quite funny ...

>...
> I think what you might be saying is that you choose not to remember
> Veronica Karlsson's postings.  If that is the case then it is
> your privilege so to choose.
>...

... whereas yours, on the other hand, was just silly.

>...
> Also consider...experience of Usenet or length of time acquiring that
> experience is no guarantee that you have become less clueless or
> conduct you Net activities more sensibly...irrespective of time.

Well, it's good that you at least realize this, Colin.

I hope, therefore, that despite your 150 years in this group, despite
your supreme wisdom, despite your authorship of most of the RFCs
relating to Usenet, despite the fact that you probably don't realize
that I'm being sarcastic again yet, despite your omnipotence, despite
your outright godliness, you take it upon yourself to `conduct you [sic]
Net activities more sensibly', and not to bash Martin so much.

For Martin, IMHO, has done more to help new members of this group, with
his advice, utilities, and mini-FAQs, than you and I have together.

>...
> > You are correct, I am only 15. However I do not recollect any such
> > postings from Veronica, and I am not immature. In fact, I think
> > that this petty reply to a short light hearted message shows even
> > greater immaturity than the original message did.
> 
> Once again if you claim to have been in alt.ascii-art as a Regular
> User/Reader for 5 years then you could not possibly have missed the
> _several_ postings from Veronica on how to handle Casso, his Stein
> Wars, or his excessive behaviour.

Have you ever noticed, Colin, that you are the only person who ever
calls them `Stein Wars'? And have you, just possibly, ever noticed that
you are the only one (apart from Casso himself, of course) who actually
/participates/ in these so-called `Stein Wars'?

>...
> ObAscii:
> 
>      Oriental Spinning Machine
>...
>                                      <))===))>          -Achille Hui-

[Sigh]

The reason I suggested the `ObAscii' in the first place was to
discourage flame wars. The idea was that by the time you had gone to the
trouble of drawing a picture of your own, you would (1) be actually
contributing a picture to the group, and (2) calm down a lot. (It worked
for me, anyway -- you should have seen the first draft of this message.
:-)

Posting someone /else/'s picture really defeats the purpose of the
ObAscii, because (1) it's been posted before, and (2) it doesn't take as
long to do, so you don't calm down.

It would be really nice, Colin, if you followed up on what you wrote on
September 5:
>...
> Agreed, but I'm considering stopping diddling altogether and posting 
> only my own original material ( if that is truly possible ).  
> Pictures in my collection that I have already diddled I will 
> probably retain and sometimes repost.
>...

I wait with bated breath for your original pictures, Colin.

Meanwhile, here's my ObAscii -- an original picture, of course. I call
it, `On seeing another episode of the Punch Douthwaite and Judy Casso
Show'.

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And no, it's not a picture of me, just a picture of how I'm feeling.

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Matthew Thomas <mpt...@spamfree.land> wrote:

>Why not? You blame Casso all the time ... and you `feed' him more than
>anybody else in the group does.

As I've tried to explain before there is a purpose in what I do.

>Martin's comment was quite funny ...

It encouraged Casso...that is not funny...get a clue Matthew...you've been
in alt.ascii-art since late 1997 and you claim to be a smart guy?

>>...
>> I think what you might be saying is that you choose not to remember
>> Veronica Karlsson's postings.  If that is the case then it is
>> your privilege so to choose.
>>...

>... whereas yours, on the other hand, was just silly.

I think I'm gonna call you "Nitpick Thomas"...you have simply ruined your
good work in revising and producing a Modernised FAQuby many of your
postings since...particularly on controversial maters affecting the health
and and enjoyment of this well established and popular newsgroup,
"alt.ascii-art" which Joan Stark recently commented was "in her opinion the
best newsgroup on Usenet"

It has not got that way of it's own accord. Some people do care about the
group even if sarcastic, flippant, negative nitpicker wish to pretend
otherwise.

>> Also consider...experience of Usenet or length of time acquiring that
>> experience is no guarantee that you have become less clueless or
>> conduct you Net activities more sensibly...irrespective of time.

>Well, it's good that you at least realize this, Colin.

Everyone should realise that...nobody is perfect.


>I hope, therefore, that despite your 150 years in this group

Sarcasm and your negative attitudes do nothing for the quality of
your arguments at all.  Neither of which escape my comprehension.


>Net activities more sensibly', and not to bash Martin so much.

I Martin continues to make stupid postings, whether targeted at me or not,
then I will certianly let him know my displeasure in no uncertain terms.

If you cannot live with, or appreciate my posts...just don't read them...
I've got absolutely nothing positive or helpful from your contributions to
date.

I am still waiting to read anything positive from Matthew Thomas concerning
the many unwanted threads and postings which have plagued this newsgroup
almost throughout 1998 and peaked with yet another Casso SteinWar Outbreak

>For Martin, IMHO, has done more to help new members of this group, with
>his advice, utilities, and mini-FAQs, than you and I have together.

That is irrelevant where stupid postings are involved.

Well you've only been here a few months, and I, since September 1993 when the
group was created. 

So how do you can you make that statement above?   You can't, it is invalid.
So just speak for yourself Matthew and no one else!  You are not entitled to
do more than that...so please don't!

>Have you ever noticed, Colin, that you are the only person who ever
>calls them `Stein Wars'? And have you, just possibly, ever noticed that
>you are the only one (apart from Casso himself, of course) who actually
>/participates/ in these so-called `Stein Wars'?

Making that remark just shows how clueless you really are about this 
newsgroup and its history or you would not have made such a stupid remark.
The Stein Wars broke out ages ago long before you ever heard of this newsgroup "alt.ascii-art".
Lots of people got involved in the past outbreaks...the fact that _you_
yourself, Matthew Thomas, personally missed them does not mean that they did
not occur.

That is yet another piece of Invalid Misinformation you have dished up today.



>>...
>> ObAscii:
>> 
>>      Oriental Spinning Machine
>>...
>>                                      <))===))>          -Achille Hui-

>[Sigh]

>The reason I suggested the `ObAscii' in the first place was to
>discourage flame wars. The idea was that by the time you had gone to the
>trouble of drawing a picture of your own, you would (1) be actually
>contributing a picture to the group, and (2) calm down a lot. (It worked
>for me, anyway -- you should have seen the first draft of this message.
>:-)

>Posting someone /else/'s picture really defeats the purpose of the
>ObAscii, because (1) it's been posted before, and (2) it doesn't take as
>long to do, so you don't calm down.

So there goes "Nitpicking Thomas" once again...he complaind about no
pictures and now he complains about pictures...people often do not post
originals...so what?  It's still a picture...had you actually ever seen it
before?

Would you have preferred "Mereday" instead?  No because you are such a
thorough and complete Turkey, Matthew...I guess you cannot help it if it
you were born that way...takes all sorts to make a World.


>I wait with bated breath for your original pictures, Colin.

I've posted a few recently...you quite obviously do not even read or even
are care much about "alt.ascii-art"  What DO you care about Mr. Thomas?about



>Meanwhile, here's my ObAscii -- an original picture, of course. I call
>it, `On seeing another episode of the Punch Douthwaite and Judy Casso
>Show'.

>               ,\|\ . ,-
>           -|.\\ \"/|/,/,- _
>         ,\\-=\\_\`|\" \|`|`|_
>        -/\=/=-"\|\ |\/\|.|.||_
>      \//\|"|\=\=/\'\\/\|.|.|||/.
>    ,-|\"/\|"'"'"""\|/"\F.|.|||,-.
>     /|/     .  .      J:.'. |||,\
>    /` .  .--"""=     =|:. . .|/./
>    :      _;--:_     .|:. ..:'./
>    _     '__ ___`   .<J:.  .../
>   '.`    `,(##),'  .|.`\; ...<
>   `             .   J .::\:...\ .
>    `.       .  .     \  .:\:...\
>      `    . . .  - - '   .:\:...`.
>        .   ... .        . .:\:....\
>         .  ..  _,--_--.   ..:\:... `.
>          .    '-_-=a=-,` .../ \:..
>            .     `"""'  .. /   `; .
>              .          ,-'mt-2  \
>               `-._____,'          `.


>And no, it's not a picture of me, just a picture of how I'm feeling.

>T00dle-p1p ...


And so you should be feeling that way after this latest piece of inaccurate;
unfactual; invalid; negative; nitpicking posting from you!

Later,

Martin Atkins <zne...@ovtsbbg.pbz> wrote:
> It must have been Petey that removed that, since I didn`t edit the
> quote in any way other than removing the sig as I usually do. I
> didn`t have the original post so didn`t know who wrote that. Squark.

I quoted the text only and removed the poster's name, because I found
the text rather stupid (and rather cute in its stupidity.)

=========================================================
[]   .oo     Visit the Gallery of the 'steins!         []
[]  (  -)   http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/        []
[]   " "   Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes  []
=========================================================

Colin Douthwaite wrote:
> I think what you might be saying is that you choose not to remember
> Veronica Karlsson's postings.  If that is the case then it is

It doesn't matter, the asciigangsteins have long lost their credibility,
your continual whining about nobody listening anymore, doesn't change anything.

=========================================================
[]   .oo     Visit the Gallery of the 'steins!         []
[]  (  -)   http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/        []
[]   " "   Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes  []
=========================================================

Matthew Thomas wrote:
> Have you ever noticed, Colin, that you are the only person who ever
> calls them `Stein Wars'? And have you, just possibly, ever noticed that

Right, it is really the Colin wars.

Colin has lost touch with reality, he throws at me excessive behavior
when he does exactly that, e.g. he posts up to 41 flames a day (to me
and others,) posts 75% of the spam, i.e. multiplies the spam volume to
this newsgroup by a factor of 4, etc

=========================================================
[]   .oo     Visit the Gallery of the 'steins!         []
[]  (  -)   http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/        []
[]   " "   Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes  []
=========================================================

Martin Atkins wrote:
> 
> .----- On 8 Nov 1998 17:03:12 GMT, Colin Douthwaite posted:
> |Oh so...here you go again feedng Casso (and me) with bait postings to
> |encourage him excesses.
> '---------------------------
> It was just a friendly comment... point taken though.

Gee, it's coming again! Feeding or no feeding (Colin said both in his
flame posting) whatever it is, I post my stuff in peace. The disruptions
come from the asciigangsteins, see the TMNT thread, I had no involvement
at all, and all of a sudden came a disruption, complete with scatology!

=========================================================
[]   .oo     Visit the Gallery of the 'steins!         []
[]  (  -)   http://www3.sympatico.ca/petecasso/        []
[]   " "   Frogstein, who has a point behind his eyes  []
=========================================================

Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> ASCII art 12 Nov 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Martin Atkins <zne...@ovtsbbg.pbz> wrote:
>.----- On 8 Nov 1998 17:03:12 GMT, Colin Douthwaite posted:
>|Martin Atkins <zne...@ovtsbbg.pbz> wrote:
>|>.----- On Tue, 03 Nov 1998 03:13:10 GMT, Pete Casso posted:
>|>|> Colin--
>|>|> Please email me.. I'd like to share something with you.


> It must have been Petey that removed that, since I didn`t edit the 
> quote in any way other than removing the sig as I usually do. I 
> didn`t have the original post so didn`t know who wrote that. Squark.  

Well if you are so damned experienced in alt.ascii-art over 5 years 
then you should know well that will happen if you feed Casso...so now 
having fed him...you blame Casso for doing something he cannot, in 
turn, resist doing?   Bah!  Humbug!  

Check your attributes carefully anyway...you claim to be a be a Usenet
literate...prove it!


> I did not 'resurrect' anything. I just asked that it should stop, 
> and in a much nicer way that how you did for that matter.
> And I can`t see it anymore, since I have the five copies of it on ignore.  

Well if you had refrained from blinding yourself to your "much nicer 
way"... you would see that your "nicer way" was in fact to write: 

> In Message-ID: <364...@news.vossnet.net> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998
> From: zne...@ovtsbbg.pbz (Martin Atkins)
> Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art
> Subject: Re: TIME TRAVEL IS *POSSIBLE*
> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 

  " Bloody hell Colin stop starting new threads... I`m trying to 
    ignore this crap! " 

Get your facts straight, Martin.


> Stupid postings eh?   Well I`m not stupid...

People, including me, do make stupid postings. 

That does not make a person inherently stupid unless their "stupid 
postings" are more the norm rather than the exception. 

Just lately, you _have_ been making _some_ stupid postings, like the 
"Casso Bait" and reopening the "TIME TRAVEL" Crossposted Troll.  I 
have brought these to your attention.  You don't like me doing that?  
Tough Biccies!  


> I think what you are basically getting at is that you want to have 
> this newsgroup entirely to yourself, where you can post things to 
> your heart's content without annoying anyone. 

Bzzzt!  If that's what you think...then you would be dead wrong. 

Nothing could be more dull or boring than a newsgroup with one 
person as the only poster! 

However it is your privilege to think what you like.  Thought 
Control is not yet a feature of the Net.

In fact, I do not deliberately wish to annoy anyone here but it is 
impossible not to annoy people on the Net, however hard you try not 
to do so.  

You need a rhino-hide to survive here and if it ever gets too hot in 
the kitchen then it is best for people to keep out...and...don't 
indulge in "harmless funnies"...you are likely to get hotly flamed 
whether you think your "funnies" are lighthearted and frivolous or 
not. 

What matters is what other newsgroup readers think...and 
Smartasses are not usually well received. 


>... or in anyway inexperienced with USENET. I have bloody been 
> using it for at least five years now, and been in this newsgroup 
> almost that long.  

Oh Really? If your experience and knowledge of this newsgroup 
"alt.ascii-art" and Usenet itself is as long as you say then you 
cannot have paid close attention to how this newsgroup, alt.ascii-
art, has progressed, developed and performed over it's 5 years 
existence since it's creation in September 1993.  

I don't remember you _at all_ from 1993.  It seems to me you did not 
appear here in "alt.ascii-art" until 1997, at the earliest, but 
correct me if I'm wrong.  Very Shortly after your arrival you seemed 
to begin siding and supporting Casso and his views and activities 
because he encouraged you and told you by telling you he was 13 
years old.

Also consider...experience of Usenet or length of time acquiring that 
experience is no guarantee that you have become less clueless or 
conduct you Net activities more sensibly...irrespective of time.
At age 15 now you must have started in usenet at 10 years old...too
early IMNSHO.


> You are correct, I am only 15. However I do not recollect any such 
> postings from Veronica, and I am not immature. In fact, I think 
> that this petty reply to a short light hearted message shows even 
> greater immaturity than the original message did.  

Once again if you claim to have been in alt.ascii-art as a Regular 
User/Reader for 5 years then you could not possibly have missed the 
_several_ postings from Veronica on how to handle Casso, his Stein 
Wars, or his excessive behaviour.  

I think what you might be saying is that you choose not to remember 
Veronica Karlsson's postings.  If that is the case then it is
your privilege so to choose.


ObAscii:



     Oriental Spinning Machine



               _____                   .              .
             /-o-o-=o
             \-------\   .
              |:|:|:| \              .
               -_-_-   \
               v|v|v    \
        .     /-----\    o                  -----    *
             ( ( | ) )  /   _____         /o=-o-o-\
             :|: | : |:/  /-o-o-o-\       /-------/
             ( ( | ) )o   \-------/      / |:|:|:|               (~~)
              \_._._/  \   |:|:|:|      o   -_-_-    .            ||
          .     \|/  .______-_-_-_________. v|v|v                _____
                /-----------v|v|v---------------\            o=/-o-o-o-\
               /           /-----\    _  _ . _  _\        /    \-------/
              |           ( ( | ) )    .  -  - . |:       /     |:|:|:|
             ------------:|: | :  |:----------------      /      -_-_-
   .         X xo==) X x X( ( | ) )x X=o X x X x(===o     /      v|v|v
             --/-----------\_._._/------\----------- \   /      /-----\
              /|-------------\|/---------\-------| \ /       . ( ( | ) )
    -----    /  \ \ \ | | | | = | | | | | o / / /  o          :| : | : |:
  /-o-o-o-\=o    =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-\-=-=               ( ( | ) )
  \-------/        | |     |    - .. |     .\                   \_._._/
   |:|:|:|         |/|    O---O---O---O     :\                    \|/
    -_-_-          |/|    |+|+|+|+|+|+|      ;\                    v
    v|v|v          -|-    --O---O---O--       \\
   /-----\       o=|o|=o   |     - ..|         \\
  ( ( | ) )        "|"    |-----------|         \\_-_
 :|: | :  |:        |--    |.|-|/|/|-|          /oOoOo\
  ( ( | ) )       /-|/-/    \/| |-|//          (oOoOoOo)             
   \_._._/       /-//-/      |-| |.|           (OoO(~\O)             ,.~'~
    "|:|"         __          \/|-/             (OoO\ \'          .,.''
    -___-                      | |               ~~~~\ O      ,.'
    |[|]                 -)O   |/|                    O \   .'
    + =                     \  -|-     (>              \ O''
    |\|                      o=|o|=o--O                 O \
    - o       .                "|\                   .'  \ O
       \        A               | O(>              .'     O \
   .  \-+-\     |               |                 .'       \ O
               (c)              |                .          O \
              / H \             |               .            \ O
-------------/_\I/_\-------     |     ------------------------O \----
 \ \ \ \ \ (l)\ =\ (l) \ \ \---(#)---/ / / / / / / / / / / / / \ O /
 ----------,':--|---;:-------       /---------------------------O \
           .'; (e) .';                       .                   \ O
            ;  .':  ;,                      ,                     O \
           ,;  .'; ,                       .                     _---_
            .   .;   .                     ;                    |\\  \\
                ;.                /\~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~'   ~~~
                     `       <))=//\\ ____ _ . ___ . . ___ . _____ . ____
                   ,  .   .      ||::|| o---------o----------o----------o
                          .     .||--|| |                               |
                                  \\//  o---------o----------o----------0 
                                   \/_\\_________________________________
                                       \\
                                     <))===))>          -Achille Hui-


Toodle-oo,

On 12 Nov 1998 01:19:38 GMT, Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote:

>Martin Atkins <zne...@ovtsbbg.pbz> wrote:

>>... or in anyway inexperienced with USENET. I have bloody been 
>> using it for at least five years now, and been in this newsgroup 
>> almost that long.  
>
>Oh Really? If your experience and knowledge of this newsgroup 
>"alt.ascii-art" and Usenet itself is as long as you say then you 
>cannot have paid close attention to how this newsgroup, alt.ascii-
>art, has progressed, developed and performed over it's 5 years 
>existence since it's creation in September 1993.  
>
>I don't remember you _at all_ from 1993.  It seems to me you did not 
>appear here in "alt.ascii-art" until 1997, at the earliest, but 
>correct me if I'm wrong.  Very Shortly after your arrival you seemed 
>to begin siding and supporting Casso and his views and activities 
>because he encouraged you and told you by telling you he was 13 
>years old.
>
>Also consider...experience of Usenet or length of time acquiring that 
>experience is no guarantee that you have become less clueless or 
>conduct you Net activities more sensibly...irrespective of time.
>At age 15 now you must have started in usenet at 10 years old...too
>early IMNSHO.

I've been here. Not much lately, only to check if the crap has
stopped. Don't remember this group being about a dicksize contest
by a non-artist, Colin. Whether you're right or wrong, all this
crap is off-topic, and you should take it elsewhere because it
spoils this group.

-- 
Lennert.

Lennert Stock <l...@sythetech.com> wrote:
>On 12 Nov 1998 01:19:38 GMT, Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote:

>>Martin Atkins <zne...@ovtsbbg.pbz> wrote:

>>>... or in anyway inexperienced with USENET. I have bloody been 
>>> using it for at least five years now, and been in this newsgroup 
>>> almost that long.  
>>
>>Oh Really? If your experience and knowledge of this newsgroup 
>>"alt.ascii-art" and Usenet itself is as long as you say then you 
>>cannot have paid close attention to how this newsgroup, alt.ascii-
>>art, has progressed, developed and performed over it's 5 years 
>>existence since it's creation in September 1993.  
>>
>>I don't remember you _at all_ from 1993.  It seems to me you did not 
>>appear here in "alt.ascii-art" until 1997, at the earliest, but 
>>correct me if I'm wrong.  Very Shortly after your arrival you seemed 
>>to begin siding and supporting Casso and his views and activities 
>>because he encouraged you and told you by telling you he was 13 
>>years old.
>>
>>Also consider...experience of Usenet or length of time acquiring that 
>>experience is no guarantee that you have become less clueless or 
>>conduct you Net activities more sensibly...irrespective of time.
>>At age 15 now you must have started in usenet at 10 years old...too
>>early IMNSHO.

>I've been here. Not much lately, only to check if the crap has
>stopped. Don't remember this group being about a dicksize contest
>by a non-artist, Colin. Whether you're right or wrong, all this
>crap is off-topic, and you should take it elsewhere because it
>spoils this group.

Well this posting rom has not imrpoved the tone of things here has it?

So why did you make it after such a long absence from this newsgroup.

If you want to flame me go ahead...I have tryed to do what I can for this
newsgroup in my own way because I do enjoy it and always have.

As far as your personal presence and contributions to this newsgroup, 
alt.ascii-art, over the past 2 or 3 years, regrettably there has been very
little from you except complaints and flames.

Usenet newsgroups are for everyone not only you or others.

There is plenty of other disagreeable flames and material appearing here...
I never see you say anything about those.  Why be so selective in who you
flame?  I explain why I am selective inthe people I flame.

Sorry, Lennart, this posting of yours was ill-tempered, ill-considered
and very bad form.

Bye,

On 14 Nov 1998 17:17:46 GMT, Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz> wrote:

>Lennert Stock <l...@sythetech.com> wrote:
>
>>I've been here. Not much lately, only to check if the crap has
>>stopped. Don't remember this group being about a dicksize contest
>>by a non-artist, Colin. Whether you're right or wrong, all this
>>crap is off-topic, and you should take it elsewhere because it
>>spoils this group.
>
>Well this posting rom has not imrpoved the tone of things here has it?
>
>So why did you make it after such a long absence from this newsgroup.
>
>If you want to flame me go ahead...I have tryed to do what I can for this
>newsgroup in my own way because I do enjoy it and always have.
>
>As far as your personal presence and contributions to this newsgroup, 
>alt.ascii-art, over the past 2 or 3 years, regrettably there has been very
>little from you except complaints and flames.
>
>Usenet newsgroups are for everyone not only you or others.
>
>There is plenty of other disagreeable flames and material appearing here...
>I never see you say anything about those.  Why be so selective in who you
>flame?  I explain why I am selective inthe people I flame.
>
>Sorry, Lennart, this posting of yours was ill-tempered, ill-considered
>and very bad form.

Sure Koulin. What's the objective here, flame everybody who does
not join you on your crusade? Form.. Really, try alt.wankers.

-- 
Lennert Stock
Demon Internet - http://www.demon.nl/
Loop, Endless: (noun) See Endless Loop

JRO <ogl...@mail.fullnet.net-remove> ASCII art 14 Nov 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
>Lennert Stock wrote in message <364...@news.demon.nl>...
> Don't remember this group being about a dicksize contest


FYI:

My dick is the largest.  Let these kids fuss in peace....


       _____
      /  ___\           ))((((
     /  / oo           ))(((())
     \_(   _)         (/- -)))))
       \  -/          (\^  )))))
       /   \          ((\O ))))))
      | | | \         ((*==\(((((
      | | | |          / /\ \))))
      | | | |         ( (  \ \
      | | | |           \  / /
      / | | |           / / /
      \ / \ /------(\  / / )\
       |///|-------(/  |V\\\ )
jro    |   |_)         ||   /
       |   |           ||  |
       |   |           ((  |
       |   |           ||  |
       |   |           ||__|
       (___ooO        <<__/\\

"Charlie, when I said that a large
penis would really be exciting, I
meant it.  I would like to survive
the experience, however."

           JRO
ogl...@mail.fullnet.net

shame, shame, shame...

Hilton Janfield <val...@bcgroup.net> ASCII art 14 Nov 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
>        _____
>       /  ___\           ))((((
>      /  / oo           ))(((())
>      \_(   _)         (/- -)))))
>        \  -/          (\^  )))))
>        /   \          ((\O ))))))
>       | | | \         ((*==\(((((
>       | | | |          / /\ \))))
>       | | | |         ( (  \ \
>       | | | |           \  / /
>       / | | |           / / /
>       \ / \ /------(\  / / )\
>        |///|-------(/  |V\\\ )
> jro    |   |_)         ||   /
>        |   |           ||  |
>        |   |           ((  |
>        |   |           ||  |
>        |   |           ||__|
>        (___ooO        <<__/\\
> 

Come quick! Come quick! See the Irishman's dick!
It's as long as me arm and as thick as me wrist,
and the knob on the end is as big as me fist!

-- 
 _ _ ___ _   ___ _ _ ___
| | / o | |_| o ) | |_ -| v a l d u s @    ICQ: 7107014
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High message: 9434567. Message last read: 9.

Lennert Stock <len...@nl.demon.net> wrote:

>Sure Koulin. What's the objective here, flame everybody who does
>not join you on your crusade? Form.. Really, try alt.wankers.

Yeah...at _last_ I think you got it, Loonart...so try your own 
advice about _where_ to post...or alternatively, much more usefully, 
try posting something positive _here_ for a change please.  That 
might help the tone of this newsgroup a little and every little 
helps.  Thanks!  


Your personal objective seems to be posting insults and derogatory 
names ( not hard to guess who you picked that up from, is it 
Loonart? ) is much easier than doing pictures eh?


Because you have posted only flames and no pictures I may have to do 
just the same.  Any reason why I shouldn't?   What's good for the 
goose should be good for the gander?   Who needs pictures anyway?  


And, anyways, it sounds as though you have not thought much of my 
pics over the years?  Now you know why I don't have a Website. Who 
on earth would want to see my crap?  :-) 

BTW you used to do some stunning ASCII pics...but whatever happened 
to your brain since then?

And now, Loonart, it is your turn to have the opportunity to respond 
to and to perpetuate this unhelpful, negative and braindead thread.  

It seems such a shame to waste the time and effort...but your 
privilege...Go Tuit :-)

And...finally...maybe I will be just be sweet and kind and relent by 
posting an ObAscii, which actually I consider is my own own work, 
although I do not claim the actual text therein: 


ObAscii:


                          oOO  OOO  OOO OOO OOo
                     oOO                          oOO
                 oOO                                  OOo
             oOO            THIS  IS  A  TUIT             OOo
          oOO              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~             OOo
        oOO                                                   OOo
      oOO                                                       OOo
     oOO       At long last.  We have sufficient quantity        OOo
    oOO                                                           OOo
   oOO    for you to have one of your own.  Guard it with your     OOo
  oOO                                                               OOo
 oOO    life.   These TUITS are hard to come by, especially the      OOo
 oOO                                                                 OOo
 oOO   round  ones.  For years you've been saying  " I'll do that    OOo
 oOO                                                                 OOo
 oOO    as soon as I get a round tuit."   Now that you have a        OOo
  oOO                                                               OOo
   oOO       ROUND TUIT of your own, many things that you          OOo
    oOO                                                           OOo
     oOO            meant to do just may get done !              OOo
       oOO                                                     OOo
         oOO                 So get tuit !                   OOo
           oOO              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~                OOo
              oOO                                       OOo
                  oOO                               oOO
-cfbd96-             oOO                        oOO       
                          oOO  OOO  OOO OOO OOo



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