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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 29 May 1997.
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alt.ascii-art · 20 messages · 29 May 1997 - 7 Feb 1998
In article <5mkh4e$dg...@pith.uoregon.edu>, Anthony C Tippett
<mav...@gladstone.uoregon.edu> waffles on

snip nude ascii women.

>I didn't do this....unknown author
>
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Read my request eslewhere in the group and you will see that this is
exactly the kind of thing I am looking for (umm I mean style of thing).
My attempt was the sort of thing but it was too messy and complicated -
if you could get the same sort of shape (ie the letters arent uniform
from a single font style) but as simple yet affective as the above
ascii, that would be great. So remember the words don't have to be
uniform at all - be creative - thanks !!
-- 
Salesman's Warcraft 2 Page 
www.g-grids.demon.co.uk


Anthony C Tippett (mav...@gladstone.uoregon.edu) writes:

>                          
> 
> I didn't do this....unknown author
> 
She is Meriday in the Morning (Meriday Beth Komor) by Mike Jittlov

;-)

kearsley <kea...@mnsinc.com> ASCII art 2 Feb 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Hey look!  It's my second (posted) ASCII picture ever!  :)

   ,~ ` ~.          
  (( ,) ` \      
   | (  )` )            
   )7 ) ,\ \                
  <(  `(  ) )         
   7__,))  ,(                
     | _( `( `  
    / /  ),)\ )  
   /  ;  ` ' )
   \.      
    |    SK      

Sarah Kearsley
pikaia @ hotmail . com

kearsley <kea...@mnsinc.com> ASCII art 2 Feb 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
joris bellenger wrote:
 > kearsley wrote:
 > > Hey look!  It's my second (posted) ASCII picture ever!  :)
 > >    ,~ ` ~.
 > >   (( ,) ` \
 > >    | (  )` )
 > >    )7 ) ,\ \
 > >   <(  `(  ) )
 > >    7__,))  ,(
 > >      | _( `( `
 > >     / /  ),)\ )
 > >    /  ;  ` ' )
 > >    \.
 > >     |    SK
 > >
 > > Sarah Kearsley
 > > pikaia @ hotmail . com
 >
 > Hi Sarah,
 > The head of your girl is'n't quite right. I tried to
 > improve it a bit (?) Hope you don't mind.

Not a problem.  I actually tried that same thing with the neck, but I
thought it made her look like her face was sticking out too far.  You're
right though, the hair does make it look like her neck's too thick. 
Before I added the hair it looked much more natural.  Nice torso too.  I
might've gone in and given her a body, but after losing and recreating
this file twice I just wanted to stop. 

Sarah Kearsley
pikaia @ hotmail . com

 >
 >    ,~ ` -~.
 >   (( ,) `  \
 >    | (  )`  )
 >    )7 ) ,\   \
 >   <(  `(  )  )
 >    7___,) ` ,(
 >        ) \'_ `)
 >       /__/  ,) )
 >      /  ;\   \'
 >      \.   \__/.
 >       \ SK \  |
 >       '====/  )
 > --
 >    -----  `,----------------------------------------------
 >        ,\, #         joris bellenger (b'ger)
 >        |/  ?         e-mail: svz...@xs4all.nl
 >    ----| ~ )\---------------------------------------------
 >        /__/\ \____
 >        /   \_/    \  ascii-art gallery at:
 >       / <_ ____,_  \ http://www.afn.org/~afn39695/bger.htm
 >    --/___/_____  \----------------------------------------
 >                \/|   Big Browser Is Watching You

kearsley <kea...@mnsinc.com> writes:
>Hey look!  It's my second (posted) ASCII picture ever!  :)
>
>   ,~ ` ~.          
>  (( ,) ` \      
>   | (  )` )            
>   )7 ) ,\ \                
>  <(  `(  ) )         
>   7__,))  ,(                
>     | _( `( `  
>    / /  ),)\ )  
>   /  ;  ` ' )
>   \.      
>    |    SK      
>

*sigh* Right. You're too good. :-) Embarassingly so. How long 
have you been doing ascii? ;-)

This face is brill, because it's pretty small - the hair and 
the nose are excellent! Why didn't I think of using the 7 like 
that?! GREAT STUFF! :-))))

-hayley

joris bellenger <svz...@xs4all.nl> ASCII art 3 Feb 1998 00:00 · permalink · report


kearsley wrote:

> Hey look!  It's my second (posted) ASCII picture ever!  :)
>
>    ,~ ` ~.
>   (( ,) ` \
>    | (  )` )
>    )7 ) ,\ \
>   <(  `(  ) )
>    7__,))  ,(
>      | _( `( `
>     / /  ),)\ )
>    /  ;  ` ' )
>    \.
>     |    SK
>
> Sarah Kearsley
> pikaia @ hotmail . com



Hi Sarah,

The head of your girl is'n't quite right. I tried to
improve it a bit (?) Hope you don't mind.



   ,~ ` -~.
  (( ,) `  \
   | (  )`  )
   )7 ) ,\   \
  <(  `(  )  )
   7___,) ` ,(
       ) \'_ `)
      /__/  ,) )
     /  ;\   \'
     \.   \__/.
      \ SK \  |
      '====/  )
--


   -----  `,----------------------------------------------
       ,\, #         joris bellenger (b'ger)
       |/  ?         e-mail: svz...@xs4all.nl
   ----| ~ )\---------------------------------------------
       /__/\ \____
       /   \_/    \  ascii-art gallery at:
      / <_ ____,_  \ http://www.afn.org/~afn39695/bger.htm
   --/___/_____  \----------------------------------------
               \/|   Big Browser Is Watching You

Andreas Freise <ad...@mpq.mpg.de> ASCII art 3 Feb 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
joris bellenger wrote:
> kearsley wrote:
> > Hey look!  It's my second (posted) ASCII picture ever!  :)
> >    ,~ ` ~.
> >   (( ,) ` \
> >    | (  )` )
> >    )7 ) ,\ \
> >   <(  `(  ) )
> >    7__,))  ,(
> >      | _( `( `
> >     / /  ),)\ )
> >    /  ;  ` ' )
> >    \.
> >     |    SK
> >
> > Sarah Kearsley
> > pikaia @ hotmail . com
> 
> Hi Sarah,
> The head of your girl is'n't quite right. I tried to
> improve it a bit (?) Hope you don't mind.
> 
>    ,~ ` -~.
>   (( ,) `  \
>    | (  )`  )
>    )7 ) ,\   \
>   <(  `(  )  )
>    7___,) ` ,(
>        ) \'_ `)
>       /__/  ,) )
>      /  ;\   \'
>      \.   \__/.
>       \ SK \  |
>       '====/  )
> --
>    -----  `,----------------------------------------------
>        ,\, #         joris bellenger (b'ger)
>        |/  ?         e-mail: svz...@xs4all.nl
>    ----| ~ )\---------------------------------------------
>        /__/\ \____
>        /   \_/    \  ascii-art gallery at:
>       / <_ ____,_  \ http://www.afn.org/~afn39695/bger.htm
>    --/___/_____  \----------------------------------------
>                \/|   Big Browser Is Watching You

Hi Sarah! Hi Joris! :)

This is a rather nice head!

I cannot help it I have to add a bit too (though
I don't think it is good style to change a rediddle of
-perhaps- a self portrait - ??)


    ,~ ` -~.
  (( ,) `  \
   | (  )`  )
   )7 ) ,\   \
  <(  `(  )  )
   7___,) ` ,(
       ) \'_ `)
      /__/  ,) )
     /  ;\   \'
     \.   \__/.
      \ SK \  |
      '====/  )
     / )  /  /
    / /|=/  /= 
_--' / //  / -) 
///^\ (|\\\`  ' 
      |  ``` /         
      |     /|         
      |    / |         
      |   /  |         
      |   |  |	       
      (   \ -(	       
      |   |' |	       
      |   |  (         
      |   .  |         
      |  /\__          
      `-_'-/|          
      /"/|/ |          
    _/_//|             
  ,__.-' `     	       
                       

This was a quite poor attempt to imitate Joris' style.
I hope you don't mind this misuse of your head (Sarah) and your
style (Joris).      :) Just copying today...

:)
Andreas

           .,.,     You may misuse my head in revenge!            
         (((((())  '              
        ((('.  .`)      ASCII Art Dictionary          
        ((G   \ |)               
       (((`   ~ ,       http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~freise         
        .((\.:v:                 
          .| `"'.                
           `---'

Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.com> ASCII art 3 Feb 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
>From: kearsley <kea...@mnsinc.com>
>Date: Mon, Feb 2, 1998 17:49 EST
>Message-id: <34D...@mnsinc.com>

>   ,~ ` ~.          
>  (( ,) ` \      
>   | (  )` )            
>   )7 ) ,\ \                
>  <(  `(  ) )         
>   7__,))  ,(                
>     | _( `( `  
>    / /  ),)\ )  
>   /  ;  ` ' )
>   \.      
>    |    SK      

Nice Sarah--  I took out the extra spaces at the
end of each line... sometimes that can goof up
some people's systems and a =20 is added to the
end of each line-- or if you have lots of spaces,
it can line wrap...
   ,~ ` ~.
  (( ,) ` \
   | (  )` )
   )7 ) ,\ \
  <(  `(  ) )
   7__,))  ,(
     | _( `( `
    / /  ),)\ )
   /  ;  ` ' )
   \.
    |    SK

-joan
--                             _  _        __.---.
                  _  _        ( \/ )      /__|6\  )
     .--.        ( \/ )        \  /        `-\_/ /
    /  6_6_       \  /          \/           ,) (,
    \_ (___\       \/                       //   \\
     ,) (,             ____________________{(_____)}__
    //   \\           (_ pun...@juno.com  ""|||""
 __{(_____)}____________)tark, joan           |||
    ""|||""       ASCII Art Gallery:           |
 jgs   |   http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/ 

llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> ASCII art 5 Feb 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
In article <34D...@mpq.mpg.de>, Andreas Freise <ad...@mpq.mpg.de>
wrote:
>
>            .,.,     You may misuse my head in revenge!
>          (((((())  '
>         ((('.  .`)      ASCII Art Dictionary
>         ((G   \ |)
>        (((`   ~ ,       http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~freise
>         .((\.:v:
>           .| `"'.
>            `---'

It's just too much temptation. (Even though revenge is not in order from
me, Andreas.)

But I can't help thinking of John the Baptist when I see that head.

Here is a portrait of Salome with John the Baptist's head on a platter
of basil leaves:
As you can see, she has already done her dance of the seven veils....

             .,.,
           (((((())
          ((('.  .`)
a:f/ejm   ((G   \ |)             ,~~~,
      __.(((`   ~ , --. __      ,~~~~~,
 _---'\_\/.((\.:v:   \ /_/`--_ (  )(  ))
<._   __(__ .| `"'. __)__    _.))(  )(((         __
   `-/_/ \_\ `---' /_/_\_|.-'  (( )(  )))         \\\
       `-------\\\-----'        ))( )(((         \,) )
               \\\`-(          ((  )( )))        ( \/
                `--. \       ---))(  (((--       /|`\
                    \ \    /   ((  )  )))  \    / |!|
                     \ \  / /`  ))(  ((( '\ \  / /| |'
                      \ \/ /  \((  )  ))) )\ \/ / \ |!
                       \  /    \         |  \  /|! \!|.
                        \/      \        |   \/ || |\|'
                                 )       |      || |\||
                                /        |      | \||!|
                               /         |      | |/\|
                              /          \      |/ \|
                             '   (        \     |/
                             `    `.       \
                              \     `.      \
                               \     |`.     \
                                \    |   \    \
                                 )   )    )    )
                                /   (    /    /
                               |     \  |    /
                                \    /  |   /
                                 \  /   |  /
                                  )(    ) (
                                 (__)  (__ `.
                                          `._`..

Sorry, Andreas to use your head for the grisly scene, but it was so
conveniently the right size for the platter.

NOTE: If you hit the reply button, add an "e" to the "freent";
its absense is to stop the torment of automatic mailers.
___|_____
 \       |                www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/
  \      |                         cq5...@freenet.toronto.on.ca
   \     |                                     llizard aka ejm
    `.___|_
        __[)                ~---,
`.      (|   _                   \   There IS a reason for
 \       \_/(/      /\    ---%^^,/   vengeance. I believe
  \_\ \ \___/      /--\UGH! / / >    that it is your fault
     \_\_/                ___/ >     Andreas, that I have
_________|_              (# o)>,^    ventured back into the
  /|\                     '-~/|      frightening realm of 
 / | \   ejm98               \ \       large ASCII-art.

joris bellenger <svz...@xs4all.nl> ASCII art 5 Feb 1998 00:00 · permalink · report


Andreas Freise wrote:

[snip]

>
>
> Hi Sarah! Hi Joris! :)
>
> This is a rather nice head!
>
> I cannot help it I have to add a bit too (though
> I don't think it is good style to change a rediddle of
> -perhaps- a self portrait - ??)
>
>     ,~ ` -~.
>   (( ,) `  \
>    | (  )`  )
>    )7 ) ,\   \
>   <(  `(  )  )
>    7___,) ` ,(
>        ) \'_ `)
>       /__/  ,) )
>      /  ;\   \'
>      \.   \__/.
>       \ SK \  |
>       '====/  )
>      / )  /  /
>     / /|=/  /=
> _--' / //  / -)
> ///^\ (|\\\`  '
>       |  ``` /
>       |     /|
>       |    / |
>       |   /  |
>       |   |  |
>       (   \ -(
>       |   |' |
>       |   |  (
>       |   .  |
>       |  /\__
>       `-_'-/|
>       /"/|/ |
>     _/_//|
>   ,__.-' `
>
>
> This was a quite poor attempt to imitate Joris' style.
> I hope you don't mind this misuse of your head (Sarah) and your
> style (Joris).      :) Just copying today...
>
> :)
> Andreas
>
>            .,.,     You may misuse my head in revenge!
>          (((((())  '
>         ((('.  .`)      ASCII Art Dictionary
>         ((G   \ |)
>        (((`   ~ ,       http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~freise
>         .((\.:v:
>           .| `"'.
>            `---'



                              .,.,
                            (((((())
                           ((('#  ,`)
                           ((G   \ |)
                ___       (((`   ~ ,        ___
               (` _ \_     .(('.:v:       _/  ')
                \  (__\  ,---' _ |----.  /__)- |
                 \__  ( (           /  ) )  __/
                   |_X_\/ \.   #  _.|  \/_X_|
                     |  \ /(   /    /\ /  |
                      \ /  (  ,    /  \ _/
                           /______/
                          [:::::::]
                         /*%*%*%*%*\
                         >%*%#%*%*%|
                        /%*%*#*%*%*\
                       ######^######  b'ger/a:f


This was too tempting...  ;)
--


   -----  `,----------------------------------------------
       ,\, #         joris bellenger (b'ger)
       |/  ?         e-mail: svz...@xs4all.nl
   ----| ~ )\---------------------------------------------
       /__/\ \____
       /   \_/    \  ascii-art gallery at:
      / <_ ____,_  \ http://www.afn.org/~afn39695/bger.htm
   --/___/_____  \----------------------------------------
               \/|   Big Browser Is Watching You

In article <34D...@freent.toronto.on.ca>,
llizard  <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> wrote:
>(Jasper Phillips) wrote:

[snipped: me asking how to give credit for others work]

>Generally, what I do in a case like this, is put all the initials in.
>
>So your drawing would have 
>
>SK/ejm/Jasper
>
>(Did I miss anyone?)

Sounds reasonable. To be honest it's not a big deal to me.

>But in the case of the Salome drawing, when I put it on my website, I
>will put my initials on the drawing with a note that the head on the
>platter is by Andreas, because I did everything except the head.
>
>It's your call though. You _have_ changed things a fair amount. 

Yah, that's the strange bit, since I basically used SK's face,
your feet, and the "essence" of your idea... As you say, the poses
are recognizable, but on the other hand only so many angles seem
to work for people in ascii art. :-/

>However, I just remember in Art Class, when we were talking about
>plagiarism, that the teacher said to be very careful about copying other
>people's work and passing it off as your own. The poses are often
>recognizable. He said that there were some lawsuits around against
>illustrators who had used somebody else's photos as the subjects for
>their drawings.

Do you really have to worry about legal proceedings if you don't
sell anything?

>____|_____
> ,~,   Eve|               www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/
> )))      |                        cq5...@freenet.toronto.on.ca
>((((, (   |                                    llizard aka ejm
>\) \_(,)  |
>(( \      | ~---,
>|/` \     |      \_,^%---
>(| (/     |       />  \ I just finished this portrait
>-_ -_     |   ___/ >     of Eve, that I based on my
>__________|_ (# o) >        drawing of Salome.
>   /|\        '-~ /|^^   (That pose really does work
>  / | \   ejm98   | \          in ASCII-art!)

Wow. This is really quite good, especially considering the size.
What's she holding anyway?

Hmmm. looks to me like she needs a comma behind the right knee.
YMMV. Wonder if there's a way to work a face into this?

-- 
                       /\    Jasper Phillips
         /VVVVVVVVVVVVVV|~"~"~"~"~"~"----------........____
         j^^^^^^^^^^^^^\/"~"~"~"~-----------........._____ ~"~--.
         *          http://www.engr.orst.edu/~philljas/   "~"~'--`

llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> ASCII art 6 Feb 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
In article <34D...@mpq.mpg.de>, Andreas Freise
<ad...@mpq.mpg.de> wrote:
> 
> llizard wrote:
> [snip]
> ] Here is a portrait of Salome with John the Baptist's head on a platter
> ] of basil leaves:
> ] As you can see, she has already done her dance of the seven veils....
> ]
> ]              .,.,
> ]            (((((())
> ]           ((('.  .`)
> ] a:f/ejm   ((G   \ |)             ,~~~,
> ]       __.(((`   ~ , --. __      ,~~~~~,
> ]  _---'\_\/.((\.:v:   \ /_/`--_ (  )(  ))
> ] <._   __(__ .| `"'. __)__    _.))(  )(((         __
> ]    `-/_/ \_\ `---' /_/_\_|.-'  (( )(  )))         \\\
> ]        `-------\\\-----'        ))( )(((         \,) )
> ]                \\\`-(          ((  )( )))        ( \/
> ]                 `--. \       ---))(  (((--       /|`\
> ]                     \ \    /   ((  )  )))  \    / |!|
> ]                      \ \  / /`  ))(  ((( '\ \  / /| |'
> ]                       \ \/ /  \((  )  ))) )\ \/ / \ |!
> ]                        \  /    \         |  \  /|! \!|.
> ]                         \/      \        |   \/ || |\|'
> ]                                  )       |      || |\||
> ]                                 /        |      | \||!|
> ]                                /         |      | |/\|
> ]                               /          \      |/ \|
> ]                              '   (        \     |/
> ]                              `    `.       \
> ]                               \     `.      \
> ]                                \     |`.     \
> ]                                 \    |   \    \
> ]                                  )   )    )    )
> ]                                 /   (    /    /
> ]                                |     \  |    /
> ]                                 \    /  |   /
> ]                                  \  /   |  /
> ]                                   )(    ) (
> ]                                  (__)  (__ `.
> ]                                           `._`..
> ]
> ] Sorry, Andreas to use your head for the grisly scene, but it was so
> ] conveniently the right size for the platter.
> 
> :)) Thanks for that! No need to apologize. It's quite obvious
> that I clearey enjoy being on that plate - maybe because from
> there I've got a better 'front' view ... :)

I'm not usually given to phrases like this but,

How exactly like a man!


[snip]
> ] `.      (|   _                   \   There IS a reason for
> ]  \       \_/(/      /\    ---%^^,/   vengeance. I believe
> ]   \_\ \ \___/      /--\UGH! / / >    that it is your fault
> ]      \_\_/                ___/ >     Andreas, that I have
> ] _________|_              (# o)>,^    ventured back into the
> ]   /|\                     '-~/|      frightening realm of
> ]  / | \   ejm98               \ \       large ASCII-art.
> 
> Well, I warned you, didn't I.? Better start looking for a
> bigger monitor!
> 
> :)
> Andreas
>            .,.,     Life can be fun _without_ the body!
>          (((((())  '
>         ((('.  .`)      ASCII Art Dictionary
>         ((G   \ |)
>        (((`   ~ ,       http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~freise
>         .((\.:v:
>           .| `"'.
>            `---'
.
        ha
^^^^%---  ha
 "   \ ha

.

____|_____
 ,~,   Eve|
 )))      |
((((, (   |
\) \_(,)  |
(( \      | ~---,
|/` \     |      \_,^%---
(| (/     |       />  \ But this 
-_ -_     |   ___/ >      size is
__________|_ (# o) >        so much
   /|\        '-~ /|^^       more comfortable!
  / | \   ejm98   | \


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__|____                   www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/
 !!!   | ~---,         ha          cq5...@freenet.toronto.on.ca
^^%--- |      \_,^^^%--- ha                    llizard aka ejm
"__\___|_   ___/>    \ ha
 /|\       (# o)>         Even if it DOES need
/ | \       '-~/|^^         to be deciphered....
  |  \ ejm97   | \

Jasper Phillips wrote in message <6bg7nm$7lq$1...@news.NERO.NET>...
>Do you really have to worry about legal proceedings if you don't
>sell anything?

Yes, very much so.  A company or person can get very angry if you use their
things without permission; the issue isn't so much that you are getting
money from it, but that you are taking money away from them.  They will
naturally think of you as competition and use copyright law to get rid of
you.

Even if you're not selling something, if the quality is bad, it can give the
original work a bad name.  <-- That's the issue, I think.

>>BKNambo (zat help?)
--

Andreas Freise <ad...@mpq.mpg.de> ASCII art 6 Feb 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
llizard wrote:
[snip]
] Here is a portrait of Salome with John the Baptist's head on a platter
] of basil leaves:
] As you can see, she has already done her dance of the seven veils....
] 
]              .,.,
]            (((((())
]           ((('.  .`)
] a:f/ejm   ((G   \ |)             ,~~~,
]       __.(((`   ~ , --. __      ,~~~~~,
]  _---'\_\/.((\.:v:   \ /_/`--_ (  )(  ))
] <._   __(__ .| `"'. __)__    _.))(  )(((         __
]    `-/_/ \_\ `---' /_/_\_|.-'  (( )(  )))         \\\
]        `-------\\\-----'        ))( )(((         \,) )
]                \\\`-(          ((  )( )))        ( \/
]                 `--. \       ---))(  (((--       /|`\
]                     \ \    /   ((  )  )))  \    / |!|
]                      \ \  / /`  ))(  ((( '\ \  / /| |'
]                       \ \/ /  \((  )  ))) )\ \/ / \ |!
]                        \  /    \         |  \  /|! \!|.
]                         \/      \        |   \/ || |\|'
]                                  )       |      || |\||
]                                 /        |      | \||!|
]                                /         |      | |/\|
]                               /          \      |/ \|
]                              '   (        \     |/
]                              `    `.       \
]                               \     `.      \
]                                \     |`.     \
]                                 \    |   \    \
]                                  )   )    )    )
]                                 /   (    /    /
]                                |     \  |    /
]                                 \    /  |   /
]                                  \  /   |  /
]                                   )(    ) (
]                                  (__)  (__ `.
]                                           `._`..
] 
] Sorry, Andreas to use your head for the grisly scene, but it was so
] conveniently the right size for the platter.

:)) Thanks for that! No need to apologize. It's quite obvious
that I clearey enjoy being on that plate - maybe because from
there I've got a better 'front' view ... :)

[snip]
] ___|_____
]  \       |                www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/
]   \      |                         cq5...@freenet.toronto.on.ca
]    \     |                                     llizard aka ejm
]     `.___|_
]         __[)                ~---,
] `.      (|   _                   \   There IS a reason for
]  \       \_/(/      /\    ---%^^,/   vengeance. I believe
]   \_\ \ \___/      /--\UGH! / / >    that it is your fault
]      \_\_/                ___/ >     Andreas, that I have
] _________|_              (# o)>,^    ventured back into the
]   /|\                     '-~/|      frightening realm of
]  / | \   ejm98               \ \       large ASCII-art.

Well, I warned you, didn't I.? Better start looking for a 
bigger monitor!

:)
Andreas
           .,.,     Life can be fun _without_ the body!             
         (((((())  '              
        ((('.  .`)      ASCII Art Dictionary          
        ((G   \ |)               
       (((`   ~ ,       http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~freise         
        .((\.:v:                 
          .| `"'.                
           `---'

Andreas Freise <ad...@mpq.mpg.de> ASCII art 6 Feb 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
joris bellenger wrote:
[snip]
]                               .,.,
]                             (((((())
]                            ((('#  ,`)
]                            ((G   \ |)
]                 ___       (((`   ~ ,        ___
]                (` _ \_     .(('.:v:       _/  ')
]                 \  (__\  ,---' _ |----.  /__)- |
]                  \__  ( (           /  ) )  __/
]                    |_X_\/ \.   #  _.|  \/_X_|
]                      |  \ /(   /    /\ /  |
]                       \ /  (  ,    /  \ _/
]                            /______/
]                           [:::::::]
]                          /*%*%*%*%*\
]                          >%*%#%*%*%|
]                         /%*%*#*%*%*\
]                        ######^######  b'ger/a:f
] 
] This was too tempting...  ;)

:) Ouch! He he, I guess I've to work on my backing.

Oh, a little friend of mine wants to say
something ...

            
           .+.  PUNCH!
            @         `,----------------------------------------------
       ,_.'  >--a) #\, #         joris bellenger (b'ger)
          ).'      |/  ?         e-mail: svz...@xs4all.nl
         ( (       | ~ )\---------------------------------------------
        / `.\      /__/\ \____
      .'   ,/      /   \_/    \  ascii-art gallery at:
      `..,--`     / <_ ____,_  \ http://www.afn.org/~afn39695/bger.htm
       a:f       /_____  \----------------------------------------
                       \/|   Big Browser Is Watching You


Oops! Sorry for that. These women are reckless nowadays!

;)
Andreas

       .   .--.          
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        O    .  ,>-s'              .      
     ()        @'     a:f .               
 
   Alt.Ascii-Art FAQ :                       
   http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~freise/ascii/faq.html

In article <34D...@freent.toronto.on.ca>,
llizard  <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> wrote:
>
>Here is a portrait of Salome with John the Baptist's head on a platter
>of basil leaves:
>As you can see, she has already done her dance of the seven veils....
>
>             .,.,
>           (((((())
>          ((('.  .`)
>a:f/ejm   ((G   \ |)             ,~~~,
>      __.(((`   ~ , --. __      ,~~~~~,
> _---'\_\/.((\.:v:   \ /_/`--_ (  )(  ))
><._   __(__ .| `"'. __)__    _.))(  )(((         __
>   `-/_/ \_\ `---' /_/_\_|.-'  (( )(  )))         \\\
>       `-------\\\-----'        ))( )(((         \,) )
>               \\\`-(          ((  )( )))        ( \/
>                `--. \       ---))(  (((--       /|`\
>                    \ \    /   ((  )  )))  \    / |!|
>                     \ \  / /`  ))(  ((( '\ \  / /| |'
>                      \ \/ /  \((  )  ))) )\ \/ / \ |!
>                       \  /    \         |  \  /|! \!|.
>                        \/      \        |   \/ || |\|'
>                                 )       |      || |\||
>                                /        |      | \||!|
>                               /         |      | |/\|
>                              /          \      |/ \|
>                             '   (        \     |/
>                             `    `.       \
>                              \     `.      \
>                               \     |`.     \
>                                \    |   \    \
>                                 )   )    )    )
>                                /   (    /    /
>                               |     \  |    /
>                                \    /  |   /
>                                 \  /   |  /
>                                  )(    ) (
>                                 (__)  (__ `.
>                                          `._`..
>
>Sorry, Andreas to use your head for the grisly scene, but it was so
>conveniently the right size for the platter.

That angle seemed to work so well for an ascii nude, I couldn't resist...
and so, inspired by lizard, and using SK's face, I came up with this.
Hope you guys don't mind my incorporating bits of your work.

Incidentally, should I note my sources, I or did I change things enough
it doesn't really matter? I've never posted anything, so I'm
not really sure about ettiquette here.

                                      __
                             _..--"~"~  !
                       .d#####>____...   ;
                     d###p"' ~~| \8%8\|  |
                   /|#p #'     )7 )8%8|  |
                  #)\   #     <(  @(8%)  |
                  #( '  #      7_ ,)8%|  |
                  # ' '.#    __..' (8%(  ,
                 .#. \  \..'"     ' )8) k
                 d#b  \      _.     `8'  \
                 ###   '=-~"'  \  '     : b
                 #^#            \       |'
                 # #             )      |
                 # #            /  '    |
                 # #           / . .  _ (
                 # #          "  |/      \
                 v v         '   |        \
                             :   '         \
                              =..^'-..-     \
                              l    `| `.     \
                              `     |   '.    .
                               '    /     )   )
                               ' _ )     /    '
                               )   {    ( /  /
                               d   )    |   /
                               q   ;    |  /
                                \ .     ) (
                                 )(    (__ `.
                    Jasper      (__)      `._`o.


-- 
                       /\    Jasper Phillips
         /VVVVVVVVVVVVVV|~"~"~"~"~"~"----------........____
         j^^^^^^^^^^^^^\/"~"~"~"~-----------........._____ ~"~--.
         *          http://www.engr.orst.edu/~philljas/   "~"~'--`

llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> ASCII art 6 Feb 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
In article <6bdq7j$d0r$1...@news.NERO.NET>, phi...@nd.ENGR.ORST.EDU
(Jasper Phillips) wrote:
> 
> In article <34D...@freent.toronto.on.ca>,
> llizard  <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> wrote:
> >
> >Here is a portrait of Salome with John the Baptist's head on a platter
> >of basil leaves:
> >As you can see, she has already done her dance of the seven veils....
> >
> >             .,.,
> >           (((((())
> >          ((('.  .`)
> >a:f/ejm   ((G   \ |)             ,~~~,
> >      __.(((`   ~ , --. __      ,~~~~~,
> > _---'\_\/.((\.:v:   \ /_/`--_ (  )(  ))
> ><._   __(__ .| `"'. __)__    _.))(  )(((         __
> >   `-/_/ \_\ `---' /_/_\_|.-'  (( )(  )))         \\\
> >       `-------\\\-----'        ))( )(((         \,) )
> >               \\\`-(          ((  )( )))        ( \/
> >                `--. \       ---))(  (((--       /|`\
> >                    \ \    /   ((  )  )))  \    / |!|
> >                     \ \  / /`  ))(  ((( '\ \  / /| |'
> >                      \ \/ /  \((  )  ))) )\ \/ / \ |!
> >                       \  /    \         |  \  /|! \!|.
> >                        \/      \        |   \/ || |\|'
> >                                 )       |      || |\||
> >                                /        |      | \||!|
> >                               /         |      | |/\|
> >                              /          \      |/ \|
> >                             '   (        \     |/
> >                             `    `.       \
> >                              \     `.      \
> >                               \     |`.     \
> >                                \    |   \    \
> >                                 )   )    )    )
> >                                /   (    /    /
> >                               |     \  |    /
> >                                \    /  |   /
> >                                 \  /   |  /
> >                                  )(    ) (
> >                                 (__)  (__ `.
> >                                          `._`..
> >
> >Sorry, Andreas to use your head for the grisly scene, but it was so
> >conveniently the right size for the platter.
> 
> That angle seemed to work so well for an ascii nude, I couldn't resist...
> and so, inspired by lizard, and using SK's face, I came up with this.
> Hope you guys don't mind my incorporating bits of your work.
> 
> Incidentally, should I note my sources, I or did I change things enough
> it doesn't really matter? I've never posted anything, so I'm
> not really sure about ettiquette here.
> 
>                                       __
>                              _..--"~"~  !
>                        .d#####>____...   ;
>                      d###p"' ~~| \8%8\|  |
>                    /|#p #'     )7 )8%8|  |
>                   #)\   #     <(  @(8%)  |
>                   #( '  #      7_ ,)8%|  |
>                   # ' '.#    __..' (8%(  ,
>                  .#. \  \..'"     ' )8) k
>                  d#b  \      _.     `8'  \
>                  ###   '=-~"'  \  '     : b
>                  #^#            \       |'
>                  # #             )      |
>                  # #            /  '    |
>                  # #           / . .  _ (
>                  # #          "  |/      \
>                  v v         '   |        \
>                              :   '         \
>                               =..^'-..-     \
>                               l    `| `.     \
>                               `     |   '.    .
>                                '    /     )   )
>                                ' _ )     /    '
>                                )   {    ( /  /
>                                d   )    |   /
>                                q   ;    |  /
>                                 \ .     ) (
>                                  )(    (__ `.
>                     Jasper      (__)      `._`o.
> 
> --
>                        /\    Jasper Phillips
>          /VVVVVVVVVVVVVV|~"~"~"~"~"~"----------........____
>          j^^^^^^^^^^^^^\/"~"~"~"~-----------........._____ ~"~--.
>          *          http://www.engr.orst.edu/~philljas/   "~"~'--`

Generally, what I do in a case like this, is put all the initials in.

So your drawing would have 

SK/ejm/Jasper

(Did I miss anyone?)

But in the case of the Salome drawing, when I put it on my website, I
will put my initials on the drawing with a note that the head on the
platter is by Andreas, because I did everything except the head.

It's your call though. You _have_ changed things a fair amount. 

However, I just remember in Art Class, when we were talking about
plagiarism, that the teacher said to be very careful about copying other
people's work and passing it off as your own. The poses are often
recognizable. He said that there were some lawsuits around against
illustrators who had used somebody else's photos as the subjects for
their drawings.

NOTE: If you hit the reply button, add an "e" to the "freent";
its absense is to stop the torment of automatic mailers.
____|_____
 ,~,   Eve|               www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/
 )))      |                        cq5...@freenet.toronto.on.ca
((((, (   |                                    llizard aka ejm
\) \_(,)  |
(( \      | ~---,
|/` \     |      \_,^%---
(| (/     |       />  \ I just finished this portrait
-_ -_     |   ___/ >     of Eve, that I based on my
__________|_ (# o) >        drawing of Salome.
   /|\        '-~ /|^^   (That pose really does work
  / | \   ejm98   | \          in ASCII-art!)

In article <34D...@freent.toronto.on.ca>,
llizard  <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> wrote:

>So your drawing would have 
>
>SK/ejm/Jasper
>
>(Did I miss anyone?)

Don't think so. Here's the final version. I'm still not happy with
the left leg, but I suspect that's the best compromise for nearly
vertical curves. The right hand could certainly be improved too,
but I'm not quite sure how to fix it.

                                      __
                             _..--"~"~  o
                        ..::==.____...   ;
                     .::::...~'| \8%8\|  |
                   /|::......| )7 )8%8|  |
                   )\........|<(  @(8%)  |
                  .(.'.......| 7_ ,)8%|  |
                  |.Y.'. ....|_..' (8%(  ,
                  |..\..\.-'"|    ' )8) k
                  |...\......|.     `W'  \
                  |....'=-~"'| \  '     : b
                  |..........|  \       |'
                  |..........|   )      |
                  |..........|  /  '    |
                  |..........| / . .  _ (
                  |..........|"  |/      \
                  |..........|   |        \
                  |..........|   '         \
                  |..........|=..^'-..-     \
                  |..........|l    `| `.     \
                  |..........|`     |   '.    .
                  |..........| '    /     )   )
                  |..........| ' _ )'    /    '
                  |..........| )   (    ( /  /
                  |..........| d   b    |   /
                  |..........| q   p    |  /
                  |.__..--~"-'  \ /     ) (
                  `~            ) (    (__ `.
                   SK/ejm/jaz   (__b      `._`o.


>____|_____
> ,~,   Eve|               www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/
> )))      |                        cq5...@freenet.toronto.on.ca
>((((, (   |                                    llizard aka ejm
>\) \_(,)  |
>(( \      | ~---,
>|/` \     |      \_,^%---
>(| (/     |       />  \ I just finished this portrait
>-_ -_     |   ___/ >     of Eve, that I based on my
>__________|_ (# o) >        drawing of Salome.
>   /|\        '-~ /|^^   (That pose really does work
>  / | \   ejm98   | \          in ASCII-art!)

I couldn't pass up some small tweaks here... If you don't mind
I'd like to put a copy in a faerie forest sig I'm working on...

 ____|_____
  ,~,   Eve|               www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/
  )))      |                        cq5...@freenet.toronto.on.ca
 ((((, (   |                                    llizard aka ejm
 \) \_(,)  |
 (( \      | ~---,
 |/`,\     |      \_,^%---
 (| (/     |       />  \ I just finished this portrait
 -. -.     |   ___/ >     of Eve, that I based on my
 __________|_ (# o) >        drawing of Salome.
    /|\        '-~ /|^^   (That pose really does work
   / | \   ejm98   | \          in ASCII-art!)

-- 
                       /\    Jasper Phillips
         /VVVVVVVVVVVVVV|~"~"~"~"~"~"----------........____   jaz
         j^^^^^^^^^^^^^\/"~"~"~"~-----------........._____ ~"~--.
         *          http://www.engr.orst.edu/~philljas/   "~"~'--`

Jasper Phillips wrote:
> llizard wrote:
[ 8< ]
> Do you really have to worry about legal proceedings if you don't
> sell anything?
> 

In theory, yes, in practice, hasn't happened yet, that I know of. This
doesn't mean it can't happen in the future though. [No, I am not an
expert at such matters.]

> >____|_____
> > ,~,   Eve|               www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/
> > )))      |                        cq5...@freenet.toronto.on.ca
> >((((, (   |                                    llizard aka ejm
> >\) \_(,)  |
> >(( \      | ~---,
> >|/` \     |      \_,^%---
> >(| (/     |       />  \ I just finished this portrait
> >-_ -_     |   ___/ >     of Eve, that I based on my
> >__________|_ (# o) >        drawing of Salome.
> >   /|\        '-~ /|^^   (That pose really does work
> >  / | \   ejm98   | \          in ASCII-art!)
> 
> Wow. This is really quite good, especially considering the size.

It is VERY GOOD! :)

> What's she holding anyway?
> 

Given that her name is "Eve" I would say "an apple", or if you don't
like that interpretation, how about "Adam" (I seem to recall reading a
request for pornography recently...).


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llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> ASCII art 7 Feb 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
Excuse me if you have already seen this article (newsserver problems
-perennial)

In article <6bgau6$8q6$1...@news.NERO.NET>, phi...@nd.ENGR.ORST.EDU
(Jasper Phillips) wrote:
> 
> In article <34D...@freent.toronto.on.ca>,
> llizard  <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> wrote:
> 
> >So your drawing would have
> >
> >SK/ejm/Jasper
> >
> >(Did I miss anyone?)
> 
> Don't think so. Here's the final version. I'm still not happy with
> the left leg, but I suspect that's the best compromise for nearly
> vertical curves. The right hand could certainly be improved too,
> but I'm not quite sure how to fix it.
> 
>                                       __
>                              _..--"~"~  o
>                         ..::==.____...   ;
>                      .::::...~'| \8%8\|  |
>                    /|::......| )7 )8%8|  |
>                    )\........|<(  @(8%)  |
>                   .(.'.......| 7_ ,)8%|  |
>                   |.Y.'. ....|_..' (8%(  ,
>                   |..\..\.-'"|    ' )8) k
>                   |...\......|.     `W'  \
>                   |....'=-~"'| \  '     : b
>                   |..........|  \       |'
>                   |..........|   )      |
>                   |..........|  /  '    |
>                   |..........| / . .  _ (
>                   |..........|"  |/      \
>                   |..........|   |        \
>                   |..........|   '         \
>                   |..........|=..^'-..-     \
>                   |..........|l    `| `.     \
>                   |..........|`     |   '.    .
>                   |..........| '    /     )   )
>                   |..........| ' _ )'    /    '
>                   |..........| )   (    ( /  /
>                   |..........| d   b    |   /
>                   |..........| q   p    |  /
>                   |.__..--~"-'  \ /     ) (
>                   `~            ) (    (__ `.
>                    SK/ejm/jaz   (__b      `._`o.
> 
[snip]
> >|/` \     |      \_,^%---
> >(| (/     |       />  \ I just finished this portrait
> >-_ -_     |   ___/ >     of Eve, that I based on my
> >__________|_ (# o) >        drawing of Salome.
> >   /|\        '-~ /|^^   (That pose really does work
> >  / | \   ejm98   | \          in ASCII-art!)
> 
> I couldn't pass up some small tweaks here... If you don't mind
> I'd like to put a copy in a faerie forest sig I'm working on...
[snip]
>   ,~,   Eve|               www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/
>   )))      |                        cq5...@freenet.toronto.on.ca
>  ((((, (   |                                    llizard aka ejm
>  \) \_(,)  |
>  (( \      | ~---,
>  |/`,\     |      \_,^%---
>  (| (/     |       />  \ I just finished this portrait
>  -. -.     |   ___/ >     of Eve, that I based on my
[snip]
>    / | \   ejm98
> 
> --
>                        /\    Jasper Phillips
>          /VVVVVVVVVVVVVV|~"~"~"~"~"~"----------........____   jaz
>          j^^^^^^^^^^^^^\/"~"~"~"~-----------........._____ ~"~--.
>          *          http://www.engr.orst.edu/~philljas/   "~"~'--`

No, I don't mind at all if you use my Eve in your faerie forest (just
add my initials somehow).

And now _I_ have altered your dancer ever so slightly. I hope you don't
mind the liberties I have taken.

                             _..---~-~--.
                        ..::==.____...  ;
                     .::::...~(((\\\\\  |
                   /|::......| )7 ))))) |
                   )\........|<(  @((() |
                  .(.'.......| 7_ ,)))| |
                  |.Y.'. ....|_..' (((( !
                  |..\..\.-'"|    ' ))) k
                  |...\......|.     ('   \
                  |....'=-~"'| \  '     : }
                  |..........|  \       |'
                  |..........|   )      |
                  |..........|  /  '    |
                  |..........| /      _ (
                  |..........|" . .      \
                  |..........|   /        \
                  |..........|   '         \
                  |..........|=..^'-..-     \
                  |..........|l    `| `.     \
                  |..........|`     |   '.    .
                  |..........| '    /     )   )
                  |..........| ' _ )'    /    '
                  |..........|  )  (    ( /  /
                  |..........| (    )   |   /
                  |..........|  `  /    |  /
                  |.__..--~"-'  \ /     ) (
                  `~            ) (    (__ `.
                   SK/ejm/jaz   (__b      `._`o.

I know what you mean about the legs. I prefer the simple line draw
myself (and frankly a bit of charcoal is a whole lot easier to use!). I
also found Salome's arms to be a bit flimsy for her muscular legs. Here
is the altered version.
             .,.,
           (((((())
          ((('.  .`)
          ((G   \ |)             ,~~~,
      __.(((`   ~ , --. __      ,~~~~~,
 _---'\_\/.((\.:v:   \ /_/`--_ (  )(  ))
<._   __(__ .| `"'. __)__    _.))(  )((( 
   `-/_/ \_\ `---' /_/_\_|.-'  (( )(  )))         \\\
       `-------\\\-----'        ))( )(((         \,))))
               \\\`-(          ((  )( )))         ( \/
                `--. \       ---))(  (((---       /|`\
                    \ \    /   ((  )  )))   \    / |!|
                     \ \  /  `  ))(  ((( '\  \  / /| |'
                      \ \/  / \((  )  ))) )\  \/ / \ |!
                       \   /   \         |  \   /|! \!|.
                        \_/     \        |   \_/ || |\|'
                                 )       |      || |\||
                                /        |      | \||!|
                               /         |      | |/\|
                              /  y       \      |/ \|
                             '   (        \     |/
                             `    `.       \
                              \     `.      \
                               \     |`.     \
                                \    |   \    \
                                 )   )    )    )
                                /   (    /    /
                               |     \  |    /
                                \    /  |   /
                                 \  /   |  /
ejm98                             )(    ) (
(with thanks to                  (__)  (__ `.
a:f for his severed head)                 `._`..

Your veil is absolutely brilliant! (causing a second alteration)

             .,.,
           (((((())
          ((('.  .`)
          ((G   \ |)             ,~~~,
      __.(((`   ~ , --. __      ,~~~~~,
 _---'\_\/.((\.:v:   \ /_/`--_ (  )(  ))
<._   __(__ .| `"'. __)__    _.))(  )((( 
   `-/_/ \_\ `---' /_/_\_|.-'  (( )(  )))         \\\
       `-------\\\-----'        ))( )(((         \,))))
               \\\`-(          ((  )( )))         (!\/
                `--. \       ---))(  (((---       /!,'
                    \ \    /   ((  )  )))   \    /.,.|
                     \ \  /  `  ))(  ((( '\  \  /.,!.|
                      \ \/  / \((  )  ))) )\  \/.,::.|
                       \   /   \         |  \  |,::!.|
                        \_/     \        |   \_|:.:!!|
                                 )       |   |.|:::!!|
                                /        |   |.|!::!!|
                               /         |   |.|!:::!|
                              /  Y       \   `~|!!::!|
                             '   (        \    |!!::.|
                             `    `.       \   |.!.:.|
                              \     `.      \  |.!...|
                               \     |`.     \ |...!.|
                                \    |   \    \|...!.|
                                 )   )    )    |..!!.|
                                /   (    /    /|!.!!.|
                               |     \  |    / |!.!!.|
                                \    /  |   /  |!_~-'
ejm98                            \  /   |  /   `~
(with thanks to                   )(    ) (
a:f for his severed head         (__)  (__ `.
and jaz for the veil)                     `._`..


But enough already! Thanks for the ideas....


NOTE: If you hit the reply button, add an "e" to the "freent";
its absense is to stop the torment of automatic mailers.
____|_____
 ,~,   Eve|
 )))      |
((((, (   |
\) \_(,)  |
(( \      | ~---,
|/` \     |      \_,^%---    And you asked 
(| (/     |       />  \  what Eve was holding.
-_ -_     |   ___/ >    She's holding the famous
__________|_ (# o) >        apple, of course!
   /|\        '-~ /|^^
  / | \   ejm98   | \         What else?
--
        ha                  llizard aka ejm
^^^^%---  ha          cq5...@freenet.toronto.on.ca
 "   \ ha      http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/

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