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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 8 Nov 2000.
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alt.ascii-art · 9 messages · 8 Nov 2000 - 10 Nov 2000
Andrew Hood <and...@hotmail.com> ASCII art 8 Nov 2000 00:00 · permalink · report
This is an HTML message, sorry people.
I know that this is ***Naughty*** but what the $$$?
   .    ,-.
   "=m'_7_ )
     '--.   \
         )___\
       ,-;  .' AsH
       \/  ,--.,
       [___.-']/
         ~'

There seem to be two obvious advantages to HTML postings...
Colour, and the guarantee that the end-user sees your ascii in the Font that you created it in.
Many compatibility disadvantages, though, I guess...
What percentage of you see this ASCII correctly?
Please e-mail me "yes" or "no" at:  <mailto:and...@yahoo.com>
I will collate the replies and post the answer...
If needs be, should we create an "alt.htmlascii-art" ?



<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type>
<META content="MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"><STRONG>This is an HTML message, sorry 
people.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"><STRONG>I know that this is 
***Naughty***&nbsp;but what the $$$?</STRONG></FONT><FONT size=2></DIV>
<DIV></FONT><FONT face=Fixedsys size=2>
<P></FONT><FONT color=#c0c0c0 face=Fixedsys size=2></FONT><FONT color=#000000 
face=Fixedsys size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp; .</FONT><FONT color=#0000ff face=Fixedsys 
size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT><FONT color=#0000ff face=Fixedsys 
size=2>,-.<BR></FONT><FONT color=#808080 face=Fixedsys size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
"=m'_</FONT><FONT color=#0000ff face=Fixedsys size=2>7_ )</FONT><FONT 
face=Fixedsys size=2><BR><FONT color=#008000>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
'--.</FONT></FONT><FONT color=#008000><FONT face=Fixedsys size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
</FONT><FONT face=Fixedsys size=2>\</FONT><FONT face=Fixedsys 
size=2></FONT><BR><FONT 
color=#008000>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
)___\</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Fixedsys size=2><BR><FONT 
color=#008000>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;,-;&nbsp; .' 
</FONT></FONT><FONT color=#ff0000 face=Fixedsys size=2>AsH</FONT><FONT 
color=#008000 face=Fixedsys 
size=2><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\/&nbsp; ,--</FONT><FONT 
face=Fixedsys size=2>.,</FONT><FONT color=#008000 face=Fixedsys 
size=2><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;[___.-'</FONT><FONT 
face=Fixedsys size=2>]/<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
~'</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=System><STRONG>There seem to be two obvious advantages to HTML 
postings...<BR></STRONG></FONT><FONT face=System><STRONG>Colour, and the 
guarantee that the end-user sees your ascii in the Font that you created it 
in.<BR>Many compatibility disadvantages, though, I guess...<BR>What percentage 
of you see this ASCII correctly?<BR>Please e-mail me "yes" or "no" at:&nbsp; 
&lt;mailto:<A href="mailto:and...@yahoo.com">and...@yahoo.com</A>&gt;<BR>I 
will collate the replies and post the answer...<BR>If needs be, should we create 
an "alt.htmlascii-art" ?</STRONG></FONT></P></DIV></BODY></HTML>


christoph manz <zem...@usa.net> ASCII art 8 Nov 2000 00:00 · permalink · report
well, below is what i get....

actually i prefer to set my font myself... if somebody wants to use html
code he could load it on a web page an post a link... in this way it
would display as it should as people use a program for html [browser]
rather than for text [newsreader]...  if a new group makes you happy, go
for it...  i for one love ascii-art _because_ it displays only text and
i can use it anywhere where text can be displayed...   thinking about
it, i guess i wouldn't join a html newsgroup, so make that a no/no...

just my two cents
++ christoph ++

ps: encoding your message took up 74 instaed of 17 lines - that makes
3341 instead of 637 characters or about 5 times more traffic... 
just another thought.

obascii: html art

  <META content="MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=GENERATOR>
  <!-- here is where the problem begins -->

  <STYLE></STYLE>
  <!-- very stylish... -->

  <FONT size=2></DIV><DIV></FONT>
  <!-- great coding -->

  <FONT face=Fixedsys size=2><P></FONT><FONT color=#c0c0c0 face=Fixedsys
  size=2></FONT><FONT color=#000000 face=Fixedsys size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;
  .</FONT>
  <!-- 150 chars of code to make one black dot? -->

  <FONT face=Fixedsys size=2><BR><FONT color=#008000>
  <!-- ... and 51 to have a linebreak in fixedsys -->
  <!-- [which does not exist on my computer...]   -->

  etc...

  <!-- :( -->


Andrew Hood <and...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> 
> ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C04993.D37ABB70
> Content-Type: text/plain;
>   charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> 
> This is an HTML message, sorry people.
> I know that this is ***Naughty*** but what the $$$?
>    .    ,-.
>    "=m'_7_ )
>      '--.   \
>          )___\
>        ,-;  .' AsH
>        \/  ,--.,
>        [___.-']/
>          ~'
> 
> There seem to be two obvious advantages to HTML postings...
> Colour, and the guarantee that the end-user sees your ascii in the Font
> that you created it in.
> Many compatibility disadvantages, though, I guess...
> What percentage of you see this ASCII correctly?
> Please e-mail me "yes" or "no" at:  <mailto:and...@yahoo.com>
> I will collate the replies and post the answer...
> If needs be, should we create an "alt.htmlascii-art" ?
> 
> 
> ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C04993.D37ABB70
> Content-Type: text/html;
>   charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> 
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> <HTML><HEAD>
> <META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type>
> <META content="MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=GENERATOR>
> <STYLE></STYLE>
> </HEAD>
> <BODY>
> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"><STRONG>This is an HTML message, sorry
> people.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"><STRONG>I know that this is 
> ***Naughty***&nbsp;but what the $$$?</STRONG></FONT><FONT size=2></DIV>
> <DIV></FONT><FONT face=Fixedsys size=2>
> <P></FONT><FONT color=#c0c0c0 face=Fixedsys size=2></FONT><FONT color=#000000
> face=Fixedsys size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp; .</FONT><FONT color=#0000ff face=Fixedsys
> size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT><FONT color=#0000ff face=Fixedsys 
> size=2>,-.<BR></FONT><FONT color=#808080 face=Fixedsys size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;
> "=m'_</FONT><FONT color=#0000ff face=Fixedsys size=2>7_ )</FONT><FONT
> face=Fixedsys size=2><BR><FONT color=#008000>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
> '--.</FONT></FONT><FONT color=#008000><FONT face=Fixedsys size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;
> </FONT><FONT face=Fixedsys size=2>\</FONT><FONT face=Fixedsys 
> size=2></FONT><BR><FONT 
> color=#008000>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
> )___\</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Fixedsys size=2><BR><FONT 
> color=#008000>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;,-;&nbsp; .' 
> </FONT></FONT><FONT color=#ff0000 face=Fixedsys size=2>AsH</FONT><FONT
> color=#008000 face=Fixedsys 
> size=2><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\/&nbsp; ,--</FONT><FONT
> face=Fixedsys size=2>.,</FONT><FONT color=#008000 face=Fixedsys 
> size=2><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;[___.-'</FONT><FONT
> face=Fixedsys size=2>]/<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
> ~'</FONT></P>
> <P><FONT face=System><STRONG>There seem to be two obvious advantages to
> HTML postings...<BR></STRONG></FONT><FONT face=System><STRONG>Colour, and
> the guarantee that the end-user sees your ascii in the Font that you
> created it in.<BR>Many compatibility disadvantages, though, I
> guess...<BR>What percentage of you see this ASCII correctly?<BR>Please
> e-mail me "yes" or "no" at:&nbsp; &lt;mailto:<A
> href="mailto:and...@yahoo.com">and...@yahoo.com</A>&gt;<BR>I will
> collate the replies and post the answer...<BR>If needs be, should we
> create an "alt.htmlascii-art" ?</STRONG></FONT></P></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> 
> ------=_NextPart_000_006D_01C04993.D37ABB70--



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Andrew Hood wrote:
> 
> This is an HTML message, sorry people.
> I know that this is ***Naughty*** but what the $$$?
> 
> There seem to be two obvious advantages to HTML postings...
> Colour, and the guarantee that the end-user sees your ascii in the
> Font that you created it in.

A screen shot of your post:

http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/not_monospaced_at_all.gif

My opinion: put it on the web instead.


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"Veronica Karlsson" <asc...@hotmail.com> wrote
> Andrew Hood wrote:
> >
> > This is an HTML message, sorry people.
> > I know that this is ***Naughty*** but what the $$$?
> >
> > There seem to be two obvious advantages to HTML postings...
> > Colour, and the guarantee that the end-user sees your ascii in the
> > Font that you created it in.
>
> A screen shot of your post:
>
> http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/temp/not_monospaced_at_all.gif

The above is what VK see's

Some people use newsreader not capable of showing HTML .. they would see the htmlcode .. NOT pretty!

And then some people like me see this :








.. ABSOLUTELY nothing !
Html is considered "illegal" to use on the usenet (and should be for mail as well IMO)
My ISP seems to agree .. Their server removes ALL html postings .. If it had'nt been for Andrew and
VK i would never have seen what you wrote.

Post in text please.

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 14:54:42 -0000, "Andrew Hood" <and...@hotmail.com>
provoked the following text:

><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
><HTML><HEAD>
><META content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" http-equiv=Content-Type>
><META content="MSHTML 5.00.2314.1000" name=GENERATOR>
><STYLE></STYLE>
></HEAD>
><BODY>
><DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"><STRONG>This is an HTML message, sorry 
>people.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman"><STRONG>I know that this is 
>***Naughty***&nbsp;but what the $$$?</STRONG></FONT><FONT size=2></DIV>
><DIV></FONT><FONT face=Fixedsys size=2>
><P></FONT><FONT color=#c0c0c0 face=Fixedsys size=2></FONT><FONT color=#000000 
>face=Fixedsys size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp; .</FONT><FONT color=#0000ff face=Fixedsys 
>size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT><FONT color=#0000ff face=Fixedsys 
>size=2>,-.<BR></FONT><FONT color=#808080 face=Fixedsys size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
>"=m'_</FONT><FONT color=#0000ff face=Fixedsys size=2>7_ )</FONT><FONT 
>face=Fixedsys size=2><BR><FONT color=#008000>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
>'--.</FONT></FONT><FONT color=#008000><FONT face=Fixedsys size=2>&nbsp;&nbsp; 
></FONT><FONT face=Fixedsys size=2>\</FONT><FONT face=Fixedsys 
>size=2></FONT><BR><FONT 
>color=#008000>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
>)___\</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Fixedsys size=2><BR><FONT 
>color=#008000>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;,-;&nbsp; .' 
></FONT></FONT><FONT color=#ff0000 face=Fixedsys size=2>AsH</FONT><FONT 
>color=#008000 face=Fixedsys 
>size=2><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;\/&nbsp; ,--</FONT><FONT 
>face=Fixedsys size=2>.,</FONT><FONT color=#008000 face=Fixedsys 
>size=2><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;[___.-'</FONT><FONT 
>face=Fixedsys size=2>]/<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
>~'</FONT></P>
><P><FONT face=System><STRONG>There seem to be two obvious advantages to HTML 
>postings...<BR></STRONG></FONT><FONT face=System><STRONG>Colour, and the 
>guarantee that the end-user sees your ascii in the Font that you created it 
>in.<BR>Many compatibility disadvantages, though, I guess...<BR>What percentage 
>of you see this ASCII correctly?<BR>Please e-mail me "yes" or "no" at:&nbsp; 
>&lt;mailto:<A href="mailto:and...@yahoo.com">and...@yahoo.com</A>&gt;<BR>I 
>will collate the replies and post the answer...<BR>If needs be, should we create 
>an "alt.htmlascii-art" ?</STRONG></FONT></P></DIV></BODY></HTML>

After taking a long hard look at what you attempted to say, i say NO NO AND NO!!
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> Their server removes ALL html postings .. If it had'nt been for Andrew and
> VK i would never have seen what you wrote.

Sorry .. Just checking  - i can see only see the name andrew hood i VK's post.
I can't see andrew hoods post .. does this mean he was the originator of the thread ?

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000 21:36:17 +0100, "Christian 'CeeJay' Jensen"
<new...@CeeJay.cjb.nOt> wrote:

>My ISP seems to agree .. Their server removes ALL html postings .. 

Damn, why couldn't I have an ISP like that?

> <new...@CeeJay.cjb.nOt> wrote:
>
> >My ISP seems to agree .. Their server removes ALL html postings ..
>
> Damn, why couldn't I have an ISP like that?

Well .. it can also be an annoyence when you discuss html in the webdevelopment groups

Tilman Ahr <rio...@gmx.net> 10 Nov 2000 03:00 · permalink · report
"Andrew Hood" <and...@hotmail.com> wrote:


> This is an HTML message, sorry people. I know that this is
> ***Naughty*** but what the $$$?

Hmm... You just earned a nice cosy place in my scorefile, but what the
fuck?

> There seem to be two obvious advantages to HTML postings... Colour,

Oh, great! Bullshit in Red on Blue... Gotta love it... 

> and the guarantee that the end-user sees your ascii in the Font = that
> you created it in. 

Granting the "end-user" has the same fonts installed... And uses a
"Newsreader" that is the same as (or at least very similar to) yours.
Apart from that *HTML* isn't meant to be a typesetting language,
either. It's for structuring text. What the text actually looks like is
*entirely* up to the interpreting program. For all the HTML-Standard
cares, it could end up as audio-Output, or dots on a braille-reader...

> Many compatibility disadvantages, though, I
> guess...

Nice way of putting "Hey everyone use a crappy Newsreader - I do! So why
shouldn't anyone else?"

> What percentage of you see this ASCII correctly? Please
> e-mail me "yes" or
> "no" at:  <mailto:and...@yahoo.com>

Post here, read here. I dont, for one (sure, if I'd load it into Gnus I
might, but I prefer Pan for aaa)

> I will collate the replies and
> post the answer... If needs be, should we create an

Do feel free to da that, but who should care, really?

> "alt.htmlascii-art"

Leave out the ascii. On the other hand: HTML really doesn't have a
place in usenet. But what the fuck. If you *need* it - go ahead.

[snipped half a ton of unneccesary "html"]

Hmph. And then theres people who are actually *wondering* why usenet is
getting so slow...

Thanks for wasting a ton of bandwidth...

Well, nevermind. Just my pet nuisance ("HTML"-postings)
EOD & F'up2 /me, cause it's off-topic and kinda pointless.

Tilman
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