Wow ansii still lives,

I didnt think anyone still did ansii grafix, Im amazed I used to be in to it
heavily in my Amiga days on the old BBS, Outlook is crap for displaying them
tho, Ive messed about with a perfectly good sig so it looks ok here, but I
hope it dont look shite im your mail/news prog, anyone got any decent IBM
fonts so I can get in to it again.

                        |
                        |
                      .���.
                    { :::: }
         (�`�.   { ::::::: }   .���)
  (�`�.�(�`�.�{ } IXI { }�.���)�.���)
    \     }\     `-        -�      /{      /
     }      }                     {       {
    ...Im gonna eat ya puppies...
   ..and consume them like flies..
               .--------------.
       |-=-> fie...@c4.com <-=-|
              `--------------�
Just one Iknocked up when I saw  this newsgroup

On Thu, 2 May 2002 14:09:23 +0100, "Fiend" <(NOSPAM)fie...@c4.com> wrote:

> I didnt think anyone still did ansii grafix, Im amazed I used to be in to it
> heavily in my Amiga days on the old BBS,

Over here we only do ASCII art -- "ANSIIs" also had control codes for
colours, animation, cursor positioning and stuff. But the basic
techniques for drawing pictures are, of course, similar.

> Outlook is crap for displaying them tho,

Good observation ;)

> Ive messed about with a perfectly good sig so it looks ok here, but I
> hope it dont look shite im your mail/news prog,

It looks bad. You need to create your ASCII art in a monospace
(fixed-width) font, NOT a proportional font -- then it will look similar
for anyone with a fixed-width font. Look for the FAQ (look under
http://groups.google.com/ , Advanced Search, newsgroup "alt.ascii-art"
and subject "FAQ"; the latest version is 3.0.3.05); it has a section
explaining how to use MS Outlook Express to read and write ASCII art.

>                         |
>                         |
>                       .���.
>                     { :::: }
>          (�`�.   { ::::::: }   .���)
>   (�`�.�(�`�.�{ } IXI { }�.���)�.���)
>     \     }\     `-        -�      /{      /
>      }      }                     {       {
>     ...Im gonna eat ya puppies...
>    ..and consume them like flies..
>                .--------------.
>        |-=-> fie...@c4.com <-=-|
>               `--------------�

That's not quite ASCII art, either, since it contains characters outside
the range 32..255; the FAQ contains a list of all ASCII characters, and
it's best to stick to those for maximum portability (and to be able to
call it "ASCII art").

Hope this helps!

Cheers,
Philip
-- 
Philip Newton <nos...@gmx.li>
That really is my address; no need to remove anything to reply.
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

On Thu, 2 May 2002 14:09:23 +0100, Fiend <fie...@c4.com> wrote:
> I didnt think anyone still did ansii grafix, Im amazed I used to be in to it
> heavily in my Amiga days on the old BBS, Outlook is crap for displaying them
> tho, Ive messed about with a perfectly good sig so it looks ok here, but I
> hope it dont look shite im your mail/news prog, anyone got any decent IBM
> fonts so I can get in to it again.

I'm afraid your picture got munged. It looks like you used a variable width
font; try Lucida Console, Terminal, or Courier New.

There were also a few non-ascii characters (like �) which aren't guaranteed to
look the same on all systems. I've replaced them with their nearest ascii
equivalents. The FAQ has a list of valid ascii characters.

Here's what I think your pic was supposed to look like; it's hard to tell
exactly because I don't have the same font. If it's not quite right, fix it up
and post it again.

                  |
                  |
                .---.
              { ::::: }
        (�`-.{ ::::::: }.-'�)
 (�`-.,(�`-.,{ } IXI { },.-'�),.-'�)
  \     }\     `-   -'     /{     /
   }      }               {      {
   ...Im gonna eat ya puppies...
  ..and consume them like flies..
      .----------------------.
      |-=-> fie...@c4.com <-=-|
      `----------------------�

-- 
Harry Mason ("hjm200.ecs@soton@ac@uk" =~ tr/@./.@/)

On 2 May 2002 19:19:28 GMT, Harry Mason <spa...@no.spam> wrote:

>On Thu, 2 May 2002 14:09:23 +0100, Fiend <fie...@c4.com> wrote:
>> I didnt think anyone still did ansii grafix, Im amazed I used to be in to it
>> heavily in my Amiga days on the old BBS, Outlook is crap for displaying them
>> tho, Ive messed about with a perfectly good sig so it looks ok here, but I
>> hope it dont look shite im your mail/news prog, anyone got any decent IBM
>> fonts so I can get in to it again.
>
>I'm afraid your picture got munged. It looks like you used a variable width
>font; try Lucida Console, Terminal, or Courier New.

Here's a URL for the TrueType font Letter Gothic Line, which is also a
good font:

ftp://ftp.seagate.com/techsuppt/letgothl.zip (23KB download)

Seagate keeps it there so people can accurately read their diagrams of
hard drive outlines/schematics/settings.

You can safely ignore ibmpcdos.ttf which is also in that directory.
I've never been able to get Windows (3.x or 9x) to recognize that file
as a valid TrueType font file. 

On 2 May 2002 19:19:28 GMT, Harry Mason <spa...@no.spam> wrote:

>On Thu, 2 May 2002 14:09:23 +0100, Fiend <fie...@c4.com> wrote:
>> I didnt think anyone still did ansii grafix, Im amazed I used to be in to it
>> heavily in my Amiga days on the old BBS, Outlook is crap for displaying them
>> tho, Ive messed about with a perfectly good sig so it looks ok here, but I
>> hope it dont look shite im your mail/news prog, anyone got any decent IBM
>> fonts so I can get in to it again.
>Here's what I think your pic was supposed to look like; it's hard to tell
>exactly because I don't have the same font. If it's not quite right, fix it up
>and post it again.
>
>                  |
>                  |
>                .---.
>              { ::::: }
>        (�`-.{ ::::::: }.-'�)
> (�`-.,(�`-.,{ } IXI { },.-'�),.-'�)
>  \     }\     `-   -'     /{     /
>   }      }               {      {
>   ...Im gonna eat ya puppies...
>  ..and consume them like flies..
>      .----------------------.
>      |-=-> fie...@c4.com <-=-|
>      `----------------------�

I ran your diddle through all of my fixed fonts, and on about 1/4 of
them (Letter Gothic Line, Terminal, Topaz New 2) the lower right dot
in the box came out as a straight vertical line and threw it off. On
the rest of them (Andale Mono, Courier, Courier New, Fixedsys,
Fixedsys TTF, Lucida Console, P0T-NOoDLE, Topaz and Xen) it looked OK.

I replaced the lower dots with the left-facing quote ` (on the same
key as the ~ on my keyboard) and it looked OK (or at least passable)
on all 12. If the ` isn't ASCII, back to the drawing board.

                  |
                  |
                .---.
              { ::::: }
        (�`-.{ ::::::: }.-'�)
 (�`-.,(�`-.,{ } IXI { },.-'�),.-'�)
  \     }\     `-   -'     /{     /
   }      }               {      {
   ...Im gonna eat ya puppies...
  ..and consume them like flies..
      .----------------------.
      |-=-> fie...@c4.com <-=-|
      `----------------------`

JamesDad wrote:
> ... 
> I replaced the lower dots with the left-facing quote ` (on the same
> key as the ~ on my keyboard) and it looked OK (or at least passable)
> on all 12. If the ` isn't ASCII, back to the drawing board.
> 
>                   |
>                   |
>                 .---.
>               { ::::: }
>         (�`-.{ ::::::: }.-'�)
>  (�`-.,(�`-.,{ } IXI { },.-'�),.-'�)
>   \     }\     `-   -'     /{     /
>    }      }               {      {
>    ...Im gonna eat ya puppies...
>   ..and consume them like flies..
>       .----------------------.
>       |-=-> fie...@c4.com <-=-|
>       `----------------------`

Still some none Ascii characters in there (this one: �)

I have removed it and teplaced one of the `s by ':

                   |
                   |
                 .---.
          _    { ::::: }    _
   _     ( `-.{ ::::::: }.-' )     _
  ( `-.,( `-.,{ } IXI { },.-' ),.-' )
   \     }\     `-   -'     /{     /
    }      }               {      {
    ...Im gonna eat ya puppies...
   ..and consume them like flies..
       .----------------------.
       |-=-> fie...@c4.com <-=-|
       `----------------------'

Now it is clean :)

Markus
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On Thu, 02 May 2002 16:20:23 -0400, JamesDad <mew...@softhome.net>
wrote:

> If the ` isn't ASCII, back to the drawing board.

` is ASCII but � isn't. (The companion to ` in ASCII is ' , but nowadays
` is usually slanted like \ while ' is straight like |.)

Cheers,
Philip
-- 
Philip Newton <nos...@gmx.li>
That really is my address; no need to remove anything to reply.
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.

On Thu, 02 May 2002 16:20:23 -0400, JamesDad <mew...@softhome.net> wrote:
>  I replaced the lower dots with the left-facing quote ` (on the same
>  key as the ~ on my keyboard) and it looked OK (or at least passable)
>  on all 12. If the ` isn't ASCII, back to the drawing board.

Oops, I missed that. I meant to replace it with ':

 .----------------------.
 |-=-> fie...@c4.com <-=-|
 `----------------------'

And yes, ` is ascii (96).

-- 
Harry Mason ("hjm200.ecs@soton@ac@uk" =~ tr/@./.@/)