Update: www.xs4all.nl/~klr

 I finally updated the site, though there's not a lot 
of new stuff for you if you read this newsgroup regularly.
There IS a new section with a few web site accessories (gifs)
that I made while messing around (though there are much 
better ones available elsewhere on the web). I'm thinking
of giving up college so that I can dedicate more time to ascii
actually - I hate not having enough tim for it!!

-hayley 
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I've just uploaded the brand new version of my web site complete with a
brand new look (courtesy of a rather talented and charming bloke I happen
to know). The latest ascii art is there, some sections have been added,
others done away with coz they were naff. :-) Url in the sig as usual. :-)

-Hayley


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Hayley Jane Wakenshaw wrote:
[ 8< ]
>      .--c   9_9-.    (    http://www.xs4all.nl/~klr  _)
[ 8< ]

I get a black screen... no text, no pictures, no links... nothing... :(

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Veronica Karlsson <dre...@on.spammer> writes:
>Hayley Jane Wakenshaw wrote:
>[ 8< ]
>>      .--c   9_9-.    (    http://www.xs4all.nl/~klr  _)
>[ 8< ]
>
>I get a black screen... no text, no pictures, no links... nothing... :(

Thanks for the info. :-) And to everyone who mailed me to tell me
about the problem too! It looked fine on all our browsers, even on 
strict mode, but then, you never know just how picky PC browsers will
be. So my very own net wizard tried the pages on a macintosh emulator
on the amiga, and fixed the problem that way. It was the comment tags
apparently. 

If there are any more probs please tell me? Eeek! The very idea of only 
having a big black space as a web site!! :-}

-Hayley

: flu...@quadrant.xs4all.spambgone (Hayley Jane Wakenshaw) wrote:

: Thanks for the info. :-) And to everyone who mailed me to tell me
: about the problem too! It looked fine on all our browsers, even on
: strict mode, but then, you never know just how picky PC browsers will
: be. So my very own net wizard tried the pages on a macintosh emulator
: on the amiga, and fixed the problem that way. It was the comment tags
: apparently.
:
: If there are any more probs please tell me? Eeek! The very idea of only
: having a big black space as a web site!! :-}
:
: -Hayley


Hi Hayley -
Today I tried accessing your page but I'm still getting the blank black
screen that someone else was talking about. I have your page listed as a
link on mine. So I put the URL address that you gave above, but no go. :-(
-- Dana
          _________________________________________________
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         |     Art!       dan...@netgsi.com      other sites!|
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Hayley Jane Wakenshaw wrote:
> Veronica Karlsson writes:
> >Hayley Jane Wakenshaw wrote:
> >>      .--c   9_9-.    (    http://www.xs4all.nl/~klr  _)
> >
> >I get a black screen... no text, no pictures, no links... nothing... :(
> 
> Thanks for the info. :-) And to everyone who mailed me to tell me
> about the problem too! It looked fine on all our browsers, even on
> strict mode, but then, you never know just how picky PC browsers will
> be. So my very own net wizard tried the pages on a macintosh emulator
> on the amiga, and fixed the problem that way. It was the comment tags
> apparently.
> 
> If there are any more probs please tell me? Eeek! The very idea of only
> having a big black space as a web site!! :-}
> 

Still black I'm afraid.  :(

I went through your html and changed it till it worked:

http://jota.sm.luth.se/~e93-vkn/pics/ascii/flump.html

(you missed some </td> and </tr>. Netscape is known to choke on that...)

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 ( _`.'. -   'o` ) \ \ / /__ _ _ ___ _ _ (_)__ __ _  ( 'o`   - .`.'_ )
 _\.'_'      _.-'   \ V / -_) '_/ _ \ ' \| / _/ _` |  `-._      `_`./_
( \`. )    //\`      \_/\___|_| \___/_||_|_\__\__,_|    '/\\    ( .'/ )
 \_`-'`---'\\__,                                       ,__//`---'`-'_/
  \`        `-\    uggc://jjj.yhqq.yhgu.fr/hfref/ix/    /-'        '/
   ` _____________________ r93...@fz.yhgu.fr ____________________ '
        LIKE MY SIG? GO HERE: http://www.surfplaza.com/figlet/

Okay. Robbie assures me that it all works now. ;-)
But we can't really tell from here because amiga
browsers seem to be pretty lenient with html, so
I have to rely on you lot to tell me if it's still 
a big black screen. :-/ 

So.. what does it look like now? :-)

*fingers crossed*

-hayley
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               ( , , )
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     |~@~ Hayley  Wakenshaw ~@~| that you can't explain it in ten
     |Flump's Ascii Collection:| minutes then it probably isn't
     |    www.xs4all.nl/~klr   | worth knowing anyway."
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              )   |   (
             (___,'.___)

In article <743...@hugbear.NL.net>,
flu...@quadrant.xs4all.nl.spambgone (Hayley Jane Wakenshaw) wrote:
> 
> Okay. Robbie assures me that it all works now. ;-)
> But we can't really tell from here because amiga
> browsers seem to be pretty lenient with html, so
> I have to rely on you lot to tell me if it's still
> a big black screen. :-/
> 
> So.. what does it look like now? :-)
> 
> *fingers crossed*
> 
> -hayley
> --
>                _     _
>               (o\---/o)
>                ( , , )
>       _____,--.(_(Y)_),--._____
>      |     "~~"       "~~"     | "If something is so complicated
>      |~@~ Hayley  Wakenshaw ~@~| that you can't explain it in ten
>      |Flump's Ascii Collection:| minutes then it probably isn't
>      |    www.xs4all.nl/~klr   | worth knowing anyway."
>      |_________________________|                 - Calvin & Hobbes
>               )   |   (
>              (___,'.___)
.

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       ^^|\     |_|  /\  \ / |  |_  \ / |
 ejm     //     | | /--\  |  |_ |_   |  .

It works at last on Netscape Navigator 3.01 and very nice it looks too.



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On Monday, 11 May 98 21:03:57, in alt.ascii-art hjw wrote:

>
>Okay. Robbie assures me that it all works now. ;-)
>But we can't really tell from here because amiga
>browsers seem to be pretty lenient with html, so
>I have to rely on you lot to tell me if it's still 
>a big black screen. :-/ 
>
>So.. what does it look like now? :-)
>
>*fingers crossed*
>
>-hayley

You might want to try using weblint
(http://www.cre.canon.co.uk/~neilb/weblint/) if you want to make sure
your HTML is standards compliant (and isn't missing tags, etc.).  I
don't know if there's an Amiga version, but there /is/ a web version
(ie., you give it a URL and it tells you what you've done wrong :-) ).

Nathan

[Posted & emailed due to flaky news service]

In article <355...@on.spammer>,
  Veronica Karlsson <dre...@on.spammer> wrote:

: Still black I'm afraid.  :(
:
: I went through your html and changed it till it worked:
:
: http://jota.sm.luth.se/~e93-vkn/pics/ascii/flump.html
:
: (you missed some </td> and </tr>. Netscape is known to choke on that...)
:
: --
:               _                                         _
:   __   ___.--'_`.  __   __                _           .'_`--.___   __
:  ( _`.'. -   'o` ) \ \ / /__ _ _ ___ _ _ (_)__ __ _  ( 'o`   - .`.'_ )
:  _\.'_'      _.-'   \ V / -_) '_/ _ \ ' \| / _/ _` |  `-._      `_`./_
: ( \`. )    //\`      \_/\___|_| \___/_||_|_\__\__,_|    '/\\    ( .'/ )
:  \_`-'`---'\\__,                                       ,__//`---'`-'_/
:   \`        `-\    uggc://jjj.yhqq.yhgu.fr/hfref/ix/    /-'        '/
:    ` _____________________ r93...@fz.yhgu.fr ____________________ '
:         LIKE MY SIG? GO HERE: http://www.surfplaza.com/figlet/
:


It's working now! :) Cool page, Hayley! I love the graphics!!
-- Dana

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Hayley Jane Wakenshaw <flu...@quadrant.xs4all.nl.spambgone> wrote:
>I've just uploaded the brand new version of my web site complete with a
>brand new look 

> (courtesy of a rather talented and charming bloke I happen
> to know). 

And the bloke _is_ also rather good-looking doncha think?...

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     .--c   9_9-.    (                               _)
hjw /    \__=/   \    `~._.-(   )     _)-.    .~._)-'
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Bye,

Veronica Karlsson <dre...@on.spammer> writes:
>
>Still black I'm afraid.  :(

Aaaarrrgh!!!! Bah! It worked when _I_ did the HTML. :-) I asked my 
fiancee for something impressive, and I get a black screen! :-)

>I went through your html and changed it till it worked:
>
>http://jota.sm.luth.se/~e93-vkn/pics/ascii/flump.html

Wow! Thanks Veronica! Looks lovely. :-)

>(you missed some </td> and </tr>. Netscape is known to choke on that...)

I'll pass that on to Robbie tonight, and see if he can go through
and sort it out. Coz I haven't a clue any more: just looking at the 
source gives me a headache. :-)

*hugs*

Hayley 

dan...@netgsi.com writes:

>It's working now! :) Cool page, Hayley! I love the graphics!!
>-- Dana

Me too! :-) Robbie did em, and hidden on the site somewhere there's
a big nerdy looking page on how he did them. :) He won't let me put a 
note on the index page saying he did them, and not me though. :-/ Pfft!

-Hayley

Hayley Jane Wakenshaw wrote:
> Veronica Karlsson writes:
> >
> >Still black I'm afraid.  :(
> 
> Aaaarrrgh!!!! Bah! It worked when _I_ did the HTML. :-) I asked my
> fiancee for something impressive, and I get a black screen! :-)
> 

:D

> >I went through your html and changed it till it worked:
> >
> >http://jota.sm.luth.se/~e93-vkn/pics/ascii/flump.html
> 
> Wow! Thanks Veronica! Looks lovely. :-)
> 

It's supposed to look exactly the same as the original, only working in
Netscape too...  :)

> >(you missed some </td> and </tr>. Netscape is known to choke on that...)
> 
> I'll pass that on to Robbie tonight, and see if he can go through
> and sort it out. Coz I haven't a clue any more: just looking at the
> source gives me a headache. :-)
> 

You can just take the one I "diddled" for you and remove one little line
at the beginning of the file... (look at the source, you'll see which
one I mean)


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( \`. )    //\`      \_/\___|_| \___/_||_|_\__\__,_|    '/\\    ( .'/ )
 \_`-'`---'\\__,                                       ,__//`---'`-'_/
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Hayley Jane Wakenshaw (flu...@quadrant.xs4all.nl.spambgone) wrote:
: Okay. Robbie assures me that it all works now. ;-)
: But we can't really tell from here because amiga
: browsers seem to be pretty lenient with html, so

I promised to myself not to post about HTML in this ng anymore, but..
                 ________
             .-'"        "`-.
            (  Validate it!! )
       ,zxs. `-., _______,.-'
      /XFAtX\   |/
     jyZj^iNvi  '
     f/'_ _`\t
     i("6,6"`l     The W3C has an excellent HTML validator at
     j:. _, ||     http://validator.w3.org/
     |i.._. ;j     
     i|`:_,'|(
    ;l(|.  /)|\.
  .-"(\)"-";(["`-.
      |)    ))
      (     ' itz

Yes, I tried your page, but it seems the validator is rather picky
about doctypes, so it shows nothing else until you've fixed that.
To me the page looked ok, both rendered and as source.

-- 
Ilmari Karonen (ilt...@sci.fi)
http://www.sci.fi/~iltzu/

llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> writes:
>flu...@quadrant.xs4all.nl.spambgone (Hayley Jane Wakenshaw) wrote:

>> So.. what does it look like now? :-)

>         /
>         \,^@@---  __    _            _
>         <    \     /   / \ \    / | |_ 
>         <\/       /__  \_/  \/\/  | |_ 
>         <                       _
>       ^^|\     |_|  /\  \ / |  |_  \ / |
> ejm     //     | | /--\  |  |_ |_   |  .
>
>It works at last on Netscape Navigator 3.01 and very nice it looks too.

Yaaaaay! :-)))))))))) Thanks Liz. ;-) 

/me goes off to work on the ascii now that heer html problems
seem to be sorted out. :-)

-Hayley

ilt...@sci.fi (Ilmari Karonen) writes:
>Hayley Jane Wakenshaw (flu...@quadrant.xs4all.nl.spambgone) wrote:
>: Okay. Robbie assures me that it all works now. ;-)
>: But we can't really tell from here because amiga
>: browsers seem to be pretty lenient with html, so
>
>I promised to myself not to post about HTML in this ng anymore, but..
>                 ________
>             .-'"        "`-.
>            (  Validate it!! )
>       ,zxs. `-., _______,.-'
>      /XFAtX\   |/
>     jyZj^iNvi  '
>     f/'_ _`\t
>     i("6,6"`l     The W3C has an excellent HTML validator at
>     j:. _, ||     http://validator.w3.org/
>     |i.._. ;j     
>     i|`:_,'|(
>    ;l(|.  /)|\.
>  .-"(\)"-";(["`-.
>      |)    ))
>      (     ' itz

:-)) I did try validating the last page you know, with one of those
supposedly extra gentle validators... pfffft! Gentle my bum! :-) With
all the new fangled features on this page, I'm not even going to try.
I'll leave that to Robbie - he's responsible for the HTML from now on,
seeing as I kept mucking up the last page, and I do the ascii. :-)
But I will ask him to shove it through a validator to make sure, as a
b'day pressie this weekend. he can't say no then you see. :->

Like the self portrait by the way - wish I could get mine that small! :-)

*cheers*

Hayley

In article <743...@hugbear.NL.net>,
flu...@quadrant.xs4all.nl.spambgone (Hayley Jane Wakenshaw) wrote:
> llizard <cq5...@freent.toronto.on.ca> writes:
> >flu...@quadrant.xs4all.nl.spambgone (Hayley Jane Wakenshaw) wrote:
> 
> >> So.. what does it look like now? :-)
> 
> >         /
> >         \,^@@---  __    _            _
> >         <    \     /   / \ \    / | |_ 
> >         <\/       /__  \_/  \/\/  | |_ 
> >         <                       _
> >       ^^|\     |_|  /\  \ / |  |_  \ / |
> > ejm     //     | | /--\  |  |_ |_   |  .
> >
> >It works at last on Netscape Navigator 3.01 and very nice it looks too.
> 
> Yaaaaay! :-)))))))))) Thanks  
> [snip]
> -Hayley

Glad to be of service... and speaking of updating, I have done the same
thing myself.

http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Studios/9334/


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