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FAQ?

alt.ascii-art · 24 messages · 3 Mar 1994 - 25 Aug 2002
I've been reading this group for several months, and I was wondering: is 
there a FAQ for this group?  If so, could somebody post it or send it to 
me?  If not, would anyone care if I make one?

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Bob Allison <bob...@gagme.wwa.com> ASCII art 4 Mar 1994 05:41 · permalink · report
In article <2l4030$pe...@news.u.washington.edu>,
Davin Tarr <dta...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>I've been reading this group for several months, and I was wondering: is 
>there a FAQ for this group?  If so, could somebody post it or send it to 
>me?

   Yes, I'll post it again next Monday.  In the meantime, I'll send you a
copy of the long version (which contains examples).

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Joseph wrote:
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> Is there a ASCII art creation FAQ?

http://studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de/~freise/ascii/faq.html

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Spunk1111 <spu...@aol.com> ASCII art 5 May 1998 00:00 · permalink · report
>From: Joseph <jma...@erols.com>
>Message-id: <354...@erols.com>
>Is there a ASCII art creation FAQ?

I have a copy of it at:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/faq.htm

along with copies of
Jorn Barger's ASCII art FAQ (1993); and
Bob Allison's ASCII art FAQ (1996)

and the MiniFAQ re: text editors and fonts
by Martin Atkin...

all I need to add is the HTML discussion
(my AOL newsreader botched all the tags)
and it will be complete and up-to-date...
until Matthew decides to revamp it all!

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Wikkesh <wik...@hotpop.com> 22 Aug 2002 22:02 · permalink · report
Is there a FAQ for this newsgroup?
Are ansi posts allowed?

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> Is there a FAQ for this newsgroup?
> Are ansi posts allowed?

Thanks for asking.  No they arn't. 
For more info do a deja.com search for something like
"group:alt.ascii-art FAQ" and see if you can find a copy of the faq


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MJP <mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net> ASCII art 23 Aug 2002 05:21 · permalink · report
On Thu, 22 Aug 2002 22:02:42 GMT, "Wikkesh" <wik...@hotpop.com> wrote:

>Is there a FAQ for this newsgroup?
>Are ansi posts allowed?
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"Wikkesh" <wik...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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> Is there a FAQ for this newsgroup?
> Are ansi posts allowed?
>
No, but you can post such to  rec.arts.ascii  FAQ:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/asciiart/

alt.ascii-art  FAQ:
http://www.ascii-art.de/ascii/faq.html

-dv

Wikkesh <wik...@hotpop.com> 23 Aug 2002 06:53 · permalink · report
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> > Is there a FAQ for this newsgroup?
> > Are ansi posts allowed?
>
> Thanks for asking.  No they arn't.
> For more info do a deja.com search for something like
> "group:alt.ascii-art FAQ" and see if you can find a copy of the faq
>

Oh well.
You won't be seeing too much of me then. :)

Wikkesh <wik...@hotpop.com> wrote:
: Is there a FAQ for this newsgroup?
: Are ansi posts allowed?

         They would be counter to the charter of
the newsgroup, but probably would be more acceptable
than the off-color language and subject matter of
some of the posts here.

         But who would be able to view ansi pics,
computers today use .......... windows.


         Anyone interested in ansi, and willing
to set up ansi.sys in DOS can get lots of example
files by doing a search for my ansi-ascii drawing
program name on www.google.com

RTIST095

        It is a free zip file of a DOS program
that writes an animated ANSI file in real time,
and then writes a static ASCII file on exiting.

        The user can either use pure ASCII, or
use the IBM high character set.

        The zip file was uploaded about 10 years
ago, and allows using the cursor keys to draw
any character really fast.
        The character to be drawn is selected 
from a dynamic list of all available characters
on line 25 that is movable by using F-9 and F-10
function keys.
        This drawing mode is selected by turning
on the SCROLL LOCK light.

        It is a self contained program with
several help screens brought up by pressing
the ALT-H, ALT-O for options, and ALT-F for
font selection.
        It has a number of built-in large
fonts for BBS Sysop use, a couple of which
can be set to use any character to construct
the letters, and can therefore create large
ASCII letters if ASCII characters are selected.

       I don't remember if the version supports
imbedding ANSI music in the file or not, but
it has some fast ways to select color and the
characters to draw with just by a keypress
when the cursor is on a color and/or character
desired.
       There are color palettes with hundreds
of possible colors if the foreground and the
background colors are set and charcters 176,
177, and 178 are used (ANSI ONLY).
       These colors can be selected from the
full-screen palettes by placing the cursor
on the desired color and a key pressed.
  
       Some of the ANSI artists did spectacular
work considering the restriction of 80 x 23
for the usual static display.
       I have pics by Star Trek characters
and movie and music stars that are fantastic
for such a limited resolution.

       But Usenet and windows places severe
restraints on the use of the Escape Character,
but it is possible, but nobody can view the
result in windows in real time (that I know of).

       So on Usenet and in windows, the "choice"
is   A  S  C  I  I.

Joe Fischer 

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In article <3d6...@news.iglou.com>,
   Joe Fischer <gra...@shell1.iglou.com> wrote:
> Wikkesh <wik...@hotpop.com> wrote:
> : Is there a FAQ for this newsgroup?
> : Are ansi posts allowed?

> They would be counter to the charter of the newsgroup, but probably
> would be more acceptable than the off-color language and subject matter
> of some of the posts here.

> But who would be able to view ansi pics, computers today use ..........
> windows.

Do they?  What about Linux, Unix, Sun OS, Solaris, Irix, 
Mac OS, OS/390, z/OS, MVS, VM, DOS, Risc OS ....?

-- 
Jeremy C B Nicoll - my opinions are my own.

On Fri, 23 Aug 2002 17:30:48 +0100, Jeremy C B Nicoll
<Jer...@omba.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>> But who would be able to view ansi pics, computers today use ..........
>> windows.
>
>Do they?  What about Linux, Unix, Sun OS, Solaris, Irix, 
>Mac OS, OS/390, z/OS, MVS, VM, DOS, Risc OS ....?

You forgot BSD's.

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Tom Bampton <tom...> 23 Aug 2002 18:41 · permalink · report
> >> But who would be able to view ansi pics, computers today use ..........
> >> windows.
> >
> >Do they?  What about Linux, Unix, Sun OS, Solaris, Irix,
> >Mac OS, OS/390, z/OS, MVS, VM, DOS, Risc OS ....?
>
> You forgot BSD's.

BSD's Unix, so he didnt :) Mind you, so's SunOS & Solaris (which are the
same thing anyway) and Irix ...

Jeremy C B Nicoll <Jer...@omba.demon.co.uk> wrote:
:Joe Fischer <gra...@shell1.iglou.com> wrote:
:> Wikkesh <wik...@hotpop.com> wrote:
:> : Is there a FAQ for this newsgroup?
:> : Are ansi posts allowed?
:> 
:> They would be counter to the charter of the newsgroup, but probably
:> would be more acceptable than the off-color language and subject matter
:> of some of the posts here.
:> 
:> But who would be able to view ansi pics, computers today use ..........
:> windows.
: 
: Do they?  What about Linux, Unix, Sun OS, Solaris, Irix, 
: Mac OS, OS/390, z/OS, MVS, VM, DOS, Risc OS ....?

         Does your Pluto reader on risc support ANSI,
or at least VT-100?

         Usenet doesn't make it easy to post anything
but ascii text, do you know how to post ANSI?

         Don't pay any attention to me, I am just
disappointed that HTML doesn't support ANSI or the
IBM high characters.

Joe Fischer 

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In article <3d6...@news.iglou.com>,
   Joe Fischer <gra...@shell1.iglou.com> wrote:


> Does your Pluto reader on risc support ANSI, or at least VT-100?

No, it's a pure text email/news client.  But there are other programs
which will view alien non-text stuff, linke HTML, ANSI, VTxxx etc

> Usenet doesn't make it easy to post anything but ascii text, do you
> know how to post ANSI?

No.  Is it any different from posting any other character set with high
bits set?

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On Fri, 23 Aug 2002 19:41:08 +0100, "Tom Bampton"
<tomREMOVETHISATREMOVETHISedendev.co.uk> wrote:

> SunOS & Solaris (which are the same thing anyway)

No, they're not. BSD vs SysV heritage, IIRC.

You're right in that Solaris took over after SunOS, but they're not the
same from a programmer's standpoint, for example.

F'up2p due to OT.

Cheers,
Philip
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On Fri, 23 Aug 2002 19:41:08 +0100, "Tom Bampton"
<tomREMOVETHISATREMOVETHISedendev.co.uk> wrote:

>> >> But who would be able to view ansi pics, computers today use ..........
>> >> windows.
>> >
>> >Do they?  What about Linux, Unix, Sun OS, Solaris, Irix,
>> >Mac OS, OS/390, z/OS, MVS, VM, DOS, Risc OS ....?
>>
>> You forgot BSD's.
>
>BSD's Unix, so he didnt :) Mind you, so's SunOS & Solaris (which are the
>same thing anyway) and Irix ...

Are AIX and HP-UX Unix also? :-)

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Jeremy C B Nicoll <Jer...@omba.demon.co.uk> wrote:
:Joe Fischer <gra...@shell1.iglou.com> wrote:
:> Does your Pluto reader on risc support ANSI, or at least VT-100?
: 
: No, it's a pure text email/news client.  

         Then that's like pine and pico on unix.

: But there are other programs
: which will view alien non-text stuff, linke HTML, ANSI, VTxxx etc

         But will they change the remote workstation
display to high resolution graphics and transmit pixels?         
 
:> Usenet doesn't make it easy to post anything but ascii text, do you
:> know how to post ANSI?
: 
: No.  Is it any different from posting any other character set with high
: bits set?

        ANSI doesn't necessarily have 'high bits" set,
it uses VT100 format with charact decimal 27 being the
"ESCAPE" or beginning character in an "ESCAPE sequence",
that looks like ]]35m to change foreground color, ]]45m
to change background color, ]]32;45m to change both,
and ]]20;10H to position the cursor if needed.
        Clear Entire Screen is ]]2J.

        So that part would have been easy to implement
in HTML, except the characters would have to be all the
same size and fixed width.

        The IBM high characters are simply characters
128 through 255 (255 being blank).    Usenet is 8 bits
capable now, so no bits have to be set, the character
decimal 32 through 255 is simply sent as a single byte.
        It would be easy to create a fixed size and
width  ANSI character set for windows, identical to the
IBM character set.
        And I don't think translating the color info
from ]]34;45m to "foreground color=<AABBCC>" background
color=<DDEEFF>". just a little less code to transmit,
but with less color combinations. 

        There is a newsgroup that sends ANSI, it is 
a tw group with "literal" in the newsgroup name.

Joe Fischer 

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Wikkesh <wik...@hotpop.com> 24 Aug 2002 22:11 · permalink · report
> >> >> But who would be able to view ansi pics, computers today use ..........
> >> >> windows.
> >> >
> >> >Do they?  What about Linux, Unix, Sun OS, Solaris, Irix,
> >> >Mac OS, OS/390, z/OS, MVS, VM, DOS, Risc OS ....?
> >>
> >> You forgot BSD's.
> >
> >BSD's Unix, so he didnt :) Mind you, so's SunOS & Solaris (which are the
> >same thing anyway) and Irix ...
>
> Are AIX and HP-UX Unix also? :-)

naming os's and forgetting about BeOS?
Shame on you. lol

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Wikkesh <wik...@hotpop.com> 24 Aug 2002 22:14 · permalink · report
>          They would be counter to the charter of
> the newsgroup, but probably would be more acceptable
> than the off-color language and subject matter of
> some of the posts here.

I'll just keep them in rec.arts.ascii then. :)

>          But who would be able to view ansi pics,
> computers today use .......... windows.

I know you answered your own question, but i'll give some alternatives...
I would post them just as i do on the web...
Take a screenshot of them and make a jpg png or gif.
or i could post the .ans files and you could read them with aciddraw or
pablodraw.
http://pablodraw.sourceforge.net/

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Wikkesh <wik...@hotpop.com> wrote:
:>          They would be counter to the charter of
:> the newsgroup, but probably would be more acceptable
:> than the off-color language and subject matter of
:> some of the posts here.
: 
: I'll just keep them in rec.arts.ascii then. :)
:
:>          But who would be able to view ansi pics,
:> computers today use .......... windows.
: 
: I know you answered your own question, but i'll give some alternatives...
: I would post them just as i do on the web...

       I had some on my web site about 5 years ago,
not mine, but by good artists.    Some of the ANSI
can be converted to ASCII, and some can't.

: Take a screenshot of them and make a jpg png or gif.

       I did that with a couple, "NeoPaint" comes with
a program that does that.

: or i could post the .ans files and you could read them with aciddraw or
: pablodraw.
: http://pablodraw.sourceforge.net/

       Good idea, and there are a couple of good
viewing programs that also play ANSI music (and
display ANSI and ASCII pics, like "SMILE" by
Michael Arnett who did a lot of great ANSI art.

       I wrote a DOS user interface that is the
best for viewing 23 line screens in ANSI or ASCII
in DOS, but I don't distribute it.

Regards,

Joe Fischer 

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On Sat, 24 Aug 2002 22:11:54 GMT, "Wikkesh" <wik...@hotpop.com>
wrote:

>> >> >> But who would be able to view ansi pics, computers today use ..........
>> >> >> windows.
>> >> >
>> >> >Do they?  What about Linux, Unix, Sun OS, Solaris, Irix,
>> >> >Mac OS, OS/390, z/OS, MVS, VM, DOS, Risc OS ....?
>> >>
>> >> You forgot BSD's.
>> >
>> >BSD's Unix, so he didnt :) Mind you, so's SunOS & Solaris (which are the
>> >same thing anyway) and Irix ...
>>
>> Are AIX and HP-UX Unix also? :-)
>
>naming os's and forgetting about BeOS?
>Shame on you. lol

Heh, really. How about Symbian OS then...

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On Sun, 25 Aug 2002 08:05:10 GMT, Martti Roitto
<mar...@pp.inet.fi> wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Aug 2002 22:11:54 GMT, "Wikkesh" <wik...@hotpop.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >> >> >> But who would be able to view ansi pics, computers today use ..........
> >> >> >> windows.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Do they?  What about Linux, Unix, Sun OS, Solaris, Irix,
> >> >> >Mac OS, OS/390, z/OS, MVS, VM, DOS, Risc OS ....?
> >> >>
> >> >> You forgot BSD's.
> >> >
> >> >BSD's Unix, so he didnt :) Mind you, so's SunOS & Solaris (which are the
> >> >same thing anyway) and Irix ...
> >>
> >> Are AIX and HP-UX Unix also? :-)
> >
> >naming os's and forgetting about BeOS?
> >Shame on you. lol
> 
> Heh, really. How about Symbian OS then...

Or AtheOS? Or Lunix?

Cheers,
Philip
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