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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 24 Apr 2001.
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Cosmo 01 (repost from long ago)

Cosmo 01 (repost from long ago)

alt.ascii-art · 11 messages · 24 Apr 2001 - 27 Apr 2001
lastfuture <las...@lastfuture.de> ASCII art 24 Apr 2001 23:58 · permalink · report
    ,-''''''-,  ,-''''-,    ,-''''-,-,       ,-  ,-''''-,      
   '  ...... / '  ....  '  '  .... /| '-, ,-' | '  ....  '     
  |  '      ' |  '    '  ||  ',   ' |    '    ||  '    '  |    
  |  |        |  |    |  | ',  '-,  |  |','|  ||  |    |  |    
  |  |        |  |    |  |   '-,  ' |  |   |  ||  |    |  |    
  |  |      . |  |    |  |      |  ||  |   |  ||  |    |  |    
  '   '-----'\'   '--'   ''----'  ,'|  |   |  |'   '--'   '    
   ',_______,' ',______,'  \_____,  |__|   |__| ',______,'     
                                                               
                                EPISODE I  -  NICE SUMMER DAY  
[lf]                                                           
===============================================================
                                                               
       ,------------------.                                    
      | __________________ |   ,------------------------.      
      | :::::::::::::::::: |   |  aaah, a nice summer   |      
      | :ITS:NOW::SAFE:TO: |   | day. let's go outside! |------
      | ::TURN:OFF::YOUR:: |   '------------------------'      
      | :::::COMPUTER::::: |                                   
      | ------------------ |                                   
      |  Somy          [ ] |                                   
       '-u-u-u------------'                                    
  ___________ |____| _\_________________                       
 /          __|____|__ ',               \                      
/          '----------'  '----- - -- ----\,                    
__________________________________________\'                   
------------------------------------------' |                  
 ||                 /      \           || ,'                   
===============================================================
                                                               
--------------------------.,                                   
                             -,                                
                               ',                              
                                 ,  ,-----------.              
                                 |  | all right |              
___________________________      |  | he's gone |              
---------------------------      |  '-----------'              
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::      |     |                       
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::      |     |                       
:::::::::::::::::::::::::::      |     |                       
===============================================================
                                                 \             
--------------------------------------------------,            
--------------------------------------------------'            
__________________                        |  |                 
                  \                       |  |                 
                   \                      |  |                 
____________________\                     |  |                 
                    |                     |  |                 
-----------------,  |                     |  |                 
             24x |  |                     |  |                 
_________________|  |                     |  |                 
                    |  ,-------------------. |                 
             ,---,  |  | we'll infect this | |                 
             |''.| ____|   machine. it's   | |                 
             '---'  |  |      perfect      | |                 
                    |  '-------------------' |                 
===============================================================
                                                     |         
  \/       ,--------------------------------.        |         
 (oo)      | we will conquer this computer! |        |         
  vv    \/ '--------------------------------'        |         
  JL   (oo)   /                                      |         
        vv  _/                                       |         
        JL                                           |         
                         ,-----------------------------------. 
                     \/  | but boss, we are evil virusses... | 
                    (  ) '-----------------------------------' 
                     vv __/                          |         
                     JL                              |         
                                                     |         
===============================================================
                                                     |         
  \/                                                 |         
 (oo)                                                |         
  vv   \/                                            |         
  JL  (oo)                                           |         
       vv                                            |         
       JL            ,---------------------------------------. 
                     | shouldn't we infect a more important  | 
                 \/  | computer than this one? what's on it? | 
                (  ) '---------------------------------------' 
                 vv __/                              |         
                 JL                                  |         
                                                     |         
===============================================================
                ,----------------------------------------.     
   \/           | errr... maybe we find... evil plans on |     
  (oo)          | taking over the world. yeah that's it! |     
   vv     \/    '----------------------------------------'     
   JL    (oo)     /           ,----------.           |         
          vv  ___/          __| nonsense |           |         
          JL               /  '----------'           |         
                          /                          |         
===============================================================
                                                               
                                                               
       ,------------------,                                    
      | __________________ |   ,------------------------.      
      | :::::::::::::::::: |   | oops, forgot to turn   |      
      | :ITS:NOW::SAFE:TO: |   |    off my computer     |------
      | ::TURN:OFF::YOUR:: |   '------------------------'      
      | :::::COMPUTER::::: |                                   
      | ------------------ |                                   
      |  Somy          [ ] |                                   
       '-u-u-u------------'                                    
  ___________ |____| _\_________________                       
 /          __|____|__ ',               \                      
/          '----------'  '----- - -- ----\,                    
__________________________________________\'                   
------------------------------------------' |                  
 ||                 F      J           || ,'                   
 ||                J________L ,       _||'                     
 ||                |  ____  |   ' - '  ||                      
 ||                | |____| |    ,------------------.          
 ||                |     [] | ___| i say let's take |          
 ||                |        |    |   over this...   |          
 ||                |        |    '------------------'          
 ||                |        |          ||                      
===============================================================
                                                 \             
--------------------------------------------------,            
--------------------------------------------------'            
__________________                        |  |                 
                  \         ,--------------------.             
                   \    ____| ...computer and... |             
____________________\  /    '--------------------'             
                    | /                   |  |                 
-----------------,  :   ,-  .             |  |                 
             24x |  ,'-'  '" ' .          |  |                 
_________________|  |  |  :  |' '         |  |                 
                    '  '     :  |         |  |                 
             ,-,-''-:.          '         |  |                 
   *SQUIRT*  |',_,._           ;          |  |                 
             '---'  '         /           |  |                 
        *KLICK*     |\       ,            |  |                 
===============================================================
                                  _________   ___    _   ___   
                                 / ________\ |   \  | | |   '. 
                                 \ \_        | |\ \ | | | |', '
                                 / /________ | | \ \| | | |,' ;
                                 \_________/ |_|  \___| |___,' 
-- 

I\             ,;8,
TI             JF
#H            _HG_  u t u r e
T#   a s t   '"*#"'
';E"           EI
               H/

Henry Segerman <sjo...@sable.ox.ac.uk> ASCII art 25 Apr 2001 08:17 · permalink · report
lastfuture <las...@lastfuture.de> wrote:

:       |  Somy          [ ] |                                   
:        '-u-u-u------------'                                    
:   ___________ |____| _\_________________                       
:  /          __|____|__ ',               \                      
: /          '----------'  '----- - -- ----\,                    
: __________________________________________\'                   
: ------------------------------------------' |                  
:  ||                 F      J           || ,'                   
:  ||                J________L ,       _||'                     
:  ||                |  ____  |   ' - '  ||                      

How long ago is this post from? I'm wondering if you came up with the
JFL stuff before I did :)

-- 
 ,-.  Henry Segerman
 |/                        
 |,--.  /\  |  /| /"\/"\   |
/|   |  |/ /| / |/ /|  |   |/
 |   \_/\_/ |/  |  \/  `--'|
                          /|
         uewJa6aS hJuaH  `-'

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 08:17:42 +0000 (UTC), Henry Segerman
<sjo...@sable.ox.ac.uk> wrote:

>lastfuture <las...@lastfuture.de> wrote:
>
>:       |  Somy          [ ] |                                   
>:        '-u-u-u------------'                                    
>:   ___________ |____| _\_________________                       
>:  /          __|____|__ ',               \                      
>: /          '----------'  '----- - -- ----\,                    
>: __________________________________________\'                   
>: ------------------------------------------' |                  
>:  ||                 F      J           || ,'                   
>:  ||                J________L ,       _||'                     
>:  ||                |  ____  |   ' - '  ||                      
>
>How long ago is this post from? I'm wondering if you came up with the
>JFL stuff before I did :)

I don't actually remember the date but i used the JFL after seing it
here cause i found it useful ..so i guess i "stole" it from you ;)
-- 

I\             ,;8,
TI             JF
#H            _HG_  u t u r e
T#   a s t   '"*#"'
';E"           EI
               H/

>I don't actually remember the date but i used the JFL after seing it
>here cause i found it useful ..so i guess i "stole" it from you ;)

i checked back.. it was the 14th of August 2000
-- 

I\             ,;8,
TI             JF
#H            _HG_  u t u r e
T#   a s t   '"*#"'
';E"           EI
               H/

lastfuture <las...@lastfuture.de> wrote:
:>I don't actually remember the date but i used the JFL after seing it
:>here cause i found it useful ..so i guess i "stole" it from you ;)

: i checked back.. it was the 14th of August 2000

Ah, not that long ago. Would be very weird to find someone else using it
a decade ago or something :J)

-- 
 ,-.  Henry Segerman
         uewJa6aS hJuaH  `-'

> :>I don't actually remember the date but i used the JFL after seing it
> :>here cause i found it useful ..so i guess i "stole" it from you ;)
>
> : i checked back.. it was the 14th of August 2000
>
> Ah, not that long ago. Would be very weird to find someone else using it
> a decade ago or something :J)

I still find it weird that people use it today.
But again that is a personal preference.

My eye seems to track to individual line in the letter .. which makes it look crap.. but
if you view the letter as a shade then i suppose it looks good.

Hence why I draw "clean" linedrawing .. and almost no shading images

Andreas Freise <ad...@mpq.mpg.de> ASCII art 25 Apr 2001 21:37 · permalink · report
On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Christian 'CeeJay' Jensen wrote:
> > :>I don't actually remember the date but i used the JFL after seing it
> > :>here cause i found it useful ..so i guess i "stole" it from you ;)
> >
> > : i checked back.. it was the 14th of August 2000
> >
> > Ah, not that long ago. Would be very weird to find someone else using it
> > a decade ago or something :J)

BTW, you know that Phillip Kaulfuss 
http://www.afn.org/~afn39695/kaulfuss.htm
used the little brother jfl?

> I still find it weird that people use it today.
> But again that is a personal preference.

It is. But eye-practise too. Many people develop the taste for characters
late.

> 
> My eye seems to track to individual line in the letter .. which makes it look crap.. but
> if you view the letter as a shade then i suppose it looks good.

No, no. This is not about the "shade" at all. The JFL puts the _line_ 
where it belongs by paying the price of extra line pieces here and there.
If those extra bumps are not connected to anything else in the picture 
your eye should somewhat ignore them.

> Hence why I draw "clean" linedrawing .. and almost no shading images

Well, I would call your style "light" whereas the JFL stuff is straight 
lines too - but strong.

:)
Andreas
           ____________            
      .-- _______________          
    _____F________       T         
   F              Y .-""""-.       
   [ \:.-.=''     ]'        `c     
   [              :           a    
   [ A            :   .aa.     )   
   [ S            ]   8()8     J   
   [ C        88  ]   `9P'     s                         ASCII Records
   [ I        88  ]           v                 
   [ I a:f    88  ]         .'                 http://www.ascii-art.de
   L______________J `-.__.-'   http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~freise
 

Christian 'CeeJay' Jensen <new...@ceejay.cjb.not> wrote:
:>
:> Ah, not that long ago. Would be very weird to find someone else using it
:> a decade ago or something :J)

: I still find it weird that people use it today.
: But again that is a personal preference.

: My eye seems to track to individual line in the letter .. which makes it look crap.. but
: if you view the letter as a shade then i suppose it looks good.

It doesn't work well in courier - but something with less serifs like fixedsys
is better. Theres probably a bit of viewing it as a shade, but its more that
I'm after a vertical line that isn't centred on the character block, which
JFL give you. The extra bits are annoying, but IMO ignorable. Row gets away
with extra lines :)

: Hence why I draw "clean" linedrawing .. and almost no shading images

Its a matter of style yes. And wouldn't it be boring if we all had the same
style? :)

-- 
 ,-.  Henry Segerman
         uewJa6aS hJuaH  `-'

> : My eye seems to track to individual line in the letter .. which makes it look crap..
but
> : if you view the letter as a shade then i suppose it looks good.
>
> It doesn't work well in courier - but something with less serifs like fixedsys
> is better.

I tried it. It still doesn't look good .... to ME.

> Its a matter of style yes. And wouldn't it be boring if we all had the same
> style? :)

Here in line draw :

__________________________________________\'
------------------------------------------' |
 ||                 /      \           || ,'
 ||                /________\ ,       _||'
 ||                |  ____  |   ' - '  ||
 ||                | |____| |    ,------------------.
 ||                |     [] | ___| i say let's take |
 ||                |        |    |   over this...   |
 ||                |        |    '------------------'
 ||                |        |          ||



And here with a different type of shading. (dbpq)

__________________________________________\'
------------------------------------------' |
 ||                 p      q           || ,'
 ||                d________b ,       _||'
 ||                |  ____  |   ' - '  ||
 ||                | |____| |    ,------------------.
 ||                |     [] | ___| i say let's take |
 ||                |        |    |   over this...   |
 ||                |        |    '------------------'
 ||                |        |          ||

I usually prefer dbpq when drawing something "solid"

__________________________________________\'
------------------------------------------' |
 ||                 p8####8q           || ,'
 ||                d8######8b ,       _||'
 ||                |01010101|   ' - '  ||
 ||                |10    10|    ,------------------.
 ||                |01010[]1| ___| i say let's take |
 ||                |10101010|    |   over this...   |
 ||                |01010101|    '------------------'
 ||                |10101010|          ||

:| nahh..

Henry Segerman <sjo...@sable.ox.ac.uk> ASCII art 27 Apr 2001 11:36 · permalink · report
Andreas Freise <ad...@mpq.mpg.de> wrote:

: On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Christian 'CeeJay' Jensen wrote:
:> > :>I don't actually remember the date but i used the JFL after seing it
:> > :>here cause i found it useful ..so i guess i "stole" it from you ;)
:> >
:> > : i checked back.. it was the 14th of August 2000
:> >
:> > Ah, not that long ago. Would be very weird to find someone else using it
:> > a decade ago or something :J)

: BTW, you know that Phillip Kaulfuss 
: http://www.afn.org/~afn39695/kaulfuss.htm
: used the little brother jfl?

I didnt :) And I was right, it is very weird :) He's got an unusual type font
on that page, my 'l' doesnt look like that. Very handy if it did.
Looks like he's using the curves of f and j too, whereas I'm mostly just after
the vertical line for doing perspective.

:            ____________            
:       .-- _______________          
:     _____F________       T         
:    F              Y .-""""-.       
:    [ \:.-.=''     ]'        `c     
:    [              :           a    
:    [ A            :   .aa.     )   
:    [ S            ]   8()8     J   
:    [ C        88  ]   `9P'     s                         ASCII Records
:    [ I        88  ]           v                 
:    [ I a:f    88  ]         .'                 http://www.ascii-art.de
:    L______________J `-.__.-'   http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~freise
:  

Wonder why I never used 'Y' like that. I guess I'd use 'L' instead for a line
over to the left side of the character. And '[' and ']' have an annoying 
habit of being centred with a bit sticking out the direction you dont want
the line to be in some fonts (eg courier).

-- 
 ,-.  Henry Segerman
         uewJa6aS hJuaH  `-'

In alt.ascii-art, Andreas Freise  <ad...@mpq.mpg.de> wrote:
>            ____________            
>       .-- _______________          
>     _____F________       T         
>    F              Y .-""""-.       
>    [ \:.-.=''     ]'        `c     
>    [              :           a    
>    [ A            :   .aa.     )   
>    [ S            ]   8()8     J   
>    [ C        88  ]   `9P'     s                         ASCII Records
>    [ I        88  ]           v                 
>    [ I a:f    88  ]         .'                 http://www.ascii-art.de
>    L______________J `-.__.-'   http://www.stud.uni-hannover.de/~freise
>  


Shouldn't that be on a turntable?

      ________________________
      T 45                 p T
      |   j   .-""""-.    |  |
      | 33  ,'        `c ,'  |
      |    a            a    |
      |   (     .aa.    |)   |
      |   L     8()8   ,'J   |
      |   c     `9P'   | s   |
      |    v          d v  " |
      |     a.        .'     |
      |       `-.__.-'       |
      L______________________J

Elijah
------
thinks the arm needs some work

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