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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 5 Jul 1999.
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REQ: Prop.Font art

REQ: Prop.Font art

alt.ascii-art · 12 messages · 5 Jul 1999 - 11 Jul 1999
Meph <UZS...@uni-bonn.de> ASCII art 5 Jul 1999 00:00 · permalink · report
I'm searching for some (small) ASCII-art's which can be viewed with a
proportional font. "MS Sans Serif" ( ...a lot of characters with
identically char.-metrics) would be perfect, but I'm interested in other
fonts too.

There have been some postings here with prop. fonts, but I haven't saved
them. Please send me a mail with the files (posting as reply is possibly
not welcome).

The reason: Most browser allow to display hint's (alt="...") and they use
a proportional font. IE can display hints with multiple lines and it is
possible to display ASCII-art. In NN it works too, but I don't know how
to make a "NL". Possibly someone knows ...

Thanks



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Meph wrote:
> I'm searching for some (small) ASCII-art's which can be viewed with a
> proportional font. "MS Sans Serif" ( ...a lot of characters with
> identically char.-metrics) would be perfect, but I'm interested in other
> fonts too.
> 
> The reason: Most browser allow to display hint's (alt="...") and they use
> a proportional font. IE can display hints with multiple lines and it is
> possible to display ASCII-art. In NN it works too, but I don't know how
> to make a "NL". Possibly someone knows ...
> 

I don't think that's such a good idea.

1. Different browsers do different things.

2. You don't know what proportional font a specific user might
   get (and ascii art made for one particular proportional font
   may not look right in another proportional font). In Lynx
   you would most likely get a monospaced font.

3. That is not what "alt" is supposed to be used for.


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Meph <UZS...@uni-bonn.de> ASCII art 6 Jul 1999 00:00 · permalink · report
Veronica Karlsson <aci...@earthling.net> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: 378...@earthling.net...
Meph wrote:
>> I'm searching for some (small) ASCII-art's which can be viewed with a
>> proportional font. "MS Sans Serif" ( ...a lot of characters with
>> identically char.-metrics) would be perfect, but I'm interested in other
>> fonts too.
>>
>> The reason: Most browser allow to display hint's (alt="...") and they use
>> a proportional font. IE can display hints with multiple lines and it is
>> possible to display ASCII-art. In NN it works too, but I don't know how
>> to make a "NL". Possibly someone knows ...
>>

---


>I don't think that's such a good idea.

:( , please stop frustrating me ...

>1. Different browsers do different things.

This kind of stuff is my hobby and therefore I don't care much about
compatibility. There are hole areas of my page which work only with
a specified browsers.

>2. You don't know what proportional font a specific user might
>   get (and ascii art made for one particular proportional font
>   may not look right in another proportional font). In Lynx
>   you would most likely get a monospaced font.

"All" IE (3-5) and NN (2-4) versions use the same prop. font for alt-hints
and the user has no option to change the font. A JS can identify the browser/os
and add the correct text (or none, because of the NN problem ;).

>3. That is not what "alt" is supposed to be used for.

Not !? I thought the WC3 has implemented it to display ASCII-art ? Nevertheless
I will abuse it for it. Please don't tell the FBI. ;)


PS : Why don't you answer to my mail ?

PSS: This kind of Xposting is nonsense.

Marc


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   | You must be of legal age to view... (greetings to JF ;)   |
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             || .   . ||
             ||   ^   ||   http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/cgi/asciichat/
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           |            .  `-.
           | |\ ( o ) ( o)-._ `-.
          /  ; \ `   .   `.__`._ `----._
         / ,'   `.    `.        `------."
        / /       `.     *   #>._______ `-----._____
     __/ /          `.                 `------._____<8
    `---"             `-----------------------'
 [==============(\======================/)===========VK==]
              ((_))                    ((_))
               | |      ____  ____      | |
               | |     | /_\||/_\ |     | |
               |_|     |_(O)||(O)_|     |_|
              ((X))        [==]        ((X))
                \ \     ___ || ___     / /
                 \ \   /__\\||//__\   / /
                  \ \_____\\\///_____/ /
                   \O______)\/(______O/
                       _   =/\=   _
                      (X)  (\/)  (X)
                      (X)===/\===(X)
                      (X)  (\/)  (X)
                      (X)===/\===(X)
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                      //  _|/\|_  \\
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                      \\/-/_/\_\-\//
                      _/-//    \\-\_
                     (__)        (__)
                     //            \\
                    //\            /\\
                   //\/    Meph.   \/\\
                  //\/              \/\\
              ___(_)_                _(_)___
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     http://studenten.freepage.de/meph/ascii/ascii.htm

justr wanted to thank you 4 your id , don't have an answer to your problem
though , but i'm going to steal your id nevertheless, i think the only
answer is crash n burn , just try and try untill its right...
greats
I




Meph <UZS...@uni-bonn.de> wrote in message
news:7lssli$sq...@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de...
>
> Veronica Karlsson <aci...@earthling.net> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
378...@earthling.net...
> Meph wrote:
> >> I'm searching for some (small) ASCII-art's which can be viewed with a
> >> proportional font. "MS Sans Serif" ( ...a lot of characters with
> >> identically char.-metrics) would be perfect, but I'm interested in
other
> >> fonts too.
> >>
> >> The reason: Most browser allow to display hint's (alt="...") and they
use
> >> a proportional font. IE can display hints with multiple lines and it is
> >> possible to display ASCII-art. In NN it works too, but I don't know how
> >> to make a "NL". Possibly someone knows ...
> >>
>
> ---
>
>
> >I don't think that's such a good idea.
>
> :( , please stop frustrating me ...
>
> >1. Different browsers do different things.
>
> This kind of stuff is my hobby and therefore I don't care much about
> compatibility. There are hole areas of my page which work only with
> a specified browsers.
>
> >2. You don't know what proportional font a specific user might
> >   get (and ascii art made for one particular proportional font
> >   may not look right in another proportional font). In Lynx
> >   you would most likely get a monospaced font.
>
> "All" IE (3-5) and NN (2-4) versions use the same prop. font for alt-hints
> and the user has no option to change the font. A JS can identify the
browser/os
> and add the correct text (or none, because of the NN problem ;).
>
> >3. That is not what "alt" is supposed to be used for.
>
> Not !? I thought the WC3 has implemented it to display ASCII-art ?
Nevertheless
> I will abuse it for it. Please don't tell the FBI. ;)
>
>
> PS : Why don't you answer to my mail ?
>
> PSS: This kind of Xposting is nonsense.
>
> Marc
>
>
>    +-----------------------------------------------------------+
>    | The following pages contain UNCENSORED graphic of nudity. |
>    | You must be of legal age to view... (greetings to JF ;)   |
>    +-----------------------------------------------------------+
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                .|||||.
>               |||||||||    ASCII ART CHAT!
>              || .   . ||
>              ||   ^   ||   http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/cgi/asciichat/
>             ||(\  -  /||
>             ,.__|`-' `---._
>            |            .  `-.
>            | |\ ( o ) ( o)-._ `-.
>           /  ; \ `   .   `.__`._ `----._
>          / ,'   `.    `.        `------."
>         / /       `.     *   #>._______ `-----._____
>      __/ /          `.                 `------._____<8
>     `---"             `-----------------------'
>  [==============(\======================/)===========VK==]
>               ((_))                    ((_))
>                | |      ____  ____      | |
>                | |     | /_\||/_\ |     | |
>                |_|     |_(O)||(O)_|     |_|
>               ((X))        [==]        ((X))
>                 \ \     ___ || ___     / /
>                  \ \   /__\\||//__\   / /
>                   \ \_____\\\///_____/ /
>                    \O______)\/(______O/
>                        _   =/\=   _
>                       (X)  (\/)  (X)
>                       (X)===/\===(X)
>                       (X)  (\/)  (X)
>                       (X)===/\===(X)
>                        //  (\/)  \\
>                       //  _|/\|_  \\
>                      ((  /-/  \-\  ))
>                       \\/-/_/\_\-\//
>                       _/-//    \\-\_
>                      (__)        (__)
>                      //            \\
>                     //\            /\\
>                    //\/    Meph.   \/\\
>                   //\/              \/\\
>               ___(_)_                _(_)___
>   ___________///____\\______________//____\\\____________
>      http://studenten.freepage.de/meph/ascii/ascii.htm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Meph wrote:
> Veronica Karlsson wrote:
> >Meph wrote:
> >> I'm searching for some (small) ASCII-art's which can be viewed with a
> >> proportional font.
> >> The reason: Most browser allow to display hint's (alt="...") and they use
> >> a proportional font.

Is "Most browser" here just another way to write "Internet Explorer 4+"?

> >
> >I don't think that's such a good idea.
> 
> :( , please stop frustrating me ...
> 
> >1. Different browsers do different things.
> 
> This kind of stuff is my hobby and therefore I don't care much about
> compatibility. There are hole areas of my page which work only with
> a specified browsers.

Of course you can do that. Nobody's stopping you from doing silly
things. I'm just pointing out that they are silly, and why.

> >2. You don't know what proportional font a specific user might
> >   get (and ascii art made for one particular proportional font
> >   may not look right in another proportional font). In Lynx
> >   you would most likely get a monospaced font.
> 
> "All" IE (3-5) and NN (2-4) versions use the same prop. font for alt-hints
> and the user has no option to change the font. A JS can identify the browser/os
> and add the correct text (or none, because of the NN problem ;).

"All versions"? On a Mac too? And in Netscape, Lynx and Opera? (not to
mention the mythical Browser X?) Why turn a lot of people away when
there are good ways to show ascii art on the web that work for
"everybody"? You're not going to do the rest of "the ascii art world"
any favour by making stuff that breaks for a lot of people.

> >3. That is not what "alt" is supposed to be used for.
> 
> Not !? I thought the WC3 has implemented it to display ASCII-art ? Nevertheless
> I will abuse it for it. Please don't tell the FBI. ;)

No, of course I won't, and I won't tell them that you pick your nose
either. It's not illegal to do silly things.

> PS : Why don't you answer to my mail ?
> 

Because you haven't sent me any mail.

> PSS: This kind of Xposting is nonsense.
> 

The group comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html is a place where you can
learn a lot of interesting things about html. Or are you afraid that
somebody might have some even better arguments for why your latest Great
Idea isn't so great after all?


-- 
    (,         http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/cgi/asciichat/
    /|__--__                       .                        __--__
    |\ '__                        /|\                        _{ _ 
    `.' / `.,_ _________           |           _________ _,.' (/ `.
    /  ||``._.'             ASCII ART CHAT!             `---'|:||,/
  .'   /|                                                   /|:| \
.'    /\ \         __   __                _                 `/|'\'
 ` `,/ /`,\        \ \ / /__ _ _ ___ _ _ (_)__ __ _         /,'\ \
   .'.'  /|         \ V / -_) '_/ _ \ ' \| / _/ _` |        |\  `.`.
 ,' /   / |          \_/\___|_| \___/_||_|_\__\__,_|        | \   \ `,
- `- -- `-'- -ejm-------------------------------------VK-- -`-' -- -' -

Meph <UZS...@uni-bonn.de> 7 Jul 1999 00:00 · permalink · report
Martin Atkins <zne...@ovtsbbg.pbz> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: 378...@news.vossnet.net...
> .----- On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:03:41 +0200, Meph posted:
> \
>  > SNIP!
> /
> | I don't know how
> |to make a "NL". Possibly someone knows ...
> |
> '--------------------------
>
> Perhaps \n will work?

I have tried it (and some other JS tags) but NN ignores them.
Nevertheless thanks.


> -Martin
> |\/| _..__|_o._   /\_|_| o._  _   mart.atkins@--
> |  |(_||  |_|| | /--\|_|<|| |_>            --bigfoot.com

Meph <UZS...@uni-bonn.de> 7 Jul 1999 00:00 · permalink · report
I don't know why some people attack me in last time. The reason couldn't be
my HTML experiments, a wrong link, ... Possibly you found the courage to tell
me the real one.
Someone wrote that I should be damned from this group and possibly this is a
good idea. I don't want to spend my leisure time in group where I'm not
welcome. Therefore I have decided to unsubscribe aaa for a while.

Bye

Meph <UZS...@uni-bonn.de> 7 Jul 1999 00:00 · permalink · report
Thanks again.

Marc

Valery Silivanov <TAP...@mail.ru> ASCII art 7 Jul 1999 00:00 · permalink · report
Veronica Karlsson wrote:
> 
> Meph wrote:
> > Veronica Karlsson wrote:
> > >Meph wrote:
> > >> I'm searching for some (small) ASCII-art's which can be viewed with a
> > >> proportional font.
> > >> The reason: Most browser allow to display hint's (alt="...") and they use
> > >> a proportional font.
> 
> Is "Most browser" here just another way to write "Internet Explorer 4+"?
> 
> > >
> > >I don't think that's such a good idea.
> >
> > :( , please stop frustrating me ...
> >
> > >1. Different browsers do different things.
> >
> > This kind of stuff is my hobby and therefore I don't care much about
> > compatibility. There are hole areas of my page which work only with
> > a specified browsers.
> 
> Of course you can do that. Nobody's stopping you from doing silly
> things. I'm just pointing out that they are silly, and why.
> 
> > >2. You don't know what proportional font a specific user might
> > >   get (and ascii art made for one particular proportional font
> > >   may not look right in another proportional font). In Lynx
> > >   you would most likely get a monospaced font.
> >
> > "All" IE (3-5) and NN (2-4) versions use the same prop. font for alt-hints
> > and the user has no option to change the font. A JS can identify the browser/os
> > and add the correct text (or none, because of the NN problem ;).
> 
> "All versions"? On a Mac too? And in Netscape, Lynx and Opera? (not to
> mention the mythical Browser X?) Why turn a lot of people away when
> there are good ways to show ascii art on the web that work for
> "everybody"? You're not going to do the rest of "the ascii art world"
> any favour by making stuff that breaks for a lot of people.
> 
> > >3. That is not what "alt" is supposed to be used for.
> >
> > Not !? I thought the WC3 has implemented it to display ASCII-art ? Nevertheless
> > I will abuse it for it. Please don't tell the FBI. ;)
> 
> No, of course I won't, and I won't tell them that you pick your nose
> either. It's not illegal to do silly things.
> 
> > PS : Why don't you answer to my mail ?
> >
> 
> Because you haven't sent me any mail.
> 
> > PSS: This kind of Xposting is nonsense.
> >
> 
> The group comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html is a place where you can
> learn a lot of interesting things about html. Or are you afraid that
> somebody might have some even better arguments for why your latest Great
> Idea isn't so great after all?
> 

The following must cover most PC users:

1. MS Excel macro

' MEPH Macro
'
Sub MEPH()
    MsgBox (">+++o> fish skeleton")
End Sub


1. MS Word macro

Sub MAIN
MsgBox(",-/\=\\8    sex")
End Sub


Let me show you again what may be used (most pics are without credits;
pls let me know if smth is yours):

fish  ><_'>....><_'>....><_'>

clams      <_"   "_>

cat  ________(....=^��^=______>-|+|+|'>

trout    <:}}}}}}}}}}<

fishes    <}}}<  <}}}<   <}}}<

lizard     --====L^^^^L'=

hungry lizard... or alligator!    --====L^^^^L'<     -joan

llizard's one-line llizard, I don't remember exactly, but smth like
that:

===%^7^^^^^7^----    ejm
 
 
|--|ASCII>--  ASCII-addicts around

|==|ASCII>---  ASCII-addicts' whims


You may assign those or similar things to buttons or use in other
programs with some text. 


Thanks,

|--|ASCII|>--   Valery S-v, ASCII-addict
             `  <sil...@mtu-net.ru>
              ` http://www.angelfire.com/ab/ascii

Clover <clo...@easystreet.con> ASCII art 7 Jul 1999 00:00 · permalink · report
On Tue, 06 Jul 1999 20:59:35 +0200, Veronica Karlsson
<aci...@earthling.net> quoth:
>
>"All versions"? On a Mac too? And in Netscape, Lynx and Opera? (not to
>mention the mythical Browser X?)..

That's the browser that I use.
Mwahahaha!
>:*)

..
okay, I'll stop now.

--Clover, who's had too much caffeine.

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     \              \._     |  shopping."          |
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        ;,_                 | - Flipper            |
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   \     ||     |l     ! \   / |     T|  .  Y
    \____jl_____j \___/   \_/  l_____jl__j\_j

.----- On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 20:03:41 +0200, Meph posted:
\
 > SNIP!
/
| I don't know how
|to make a "NL". Possibly someone knows ...
|
'--------------------------

Perhaps \n will work?

-Martin
|\/| _..__|_o._   /\_|_| o._  _   mart.atkins@--
|  |(_||  |_|| | /--\|_|<|| |_>            --bigfoot.com

.----- On Tue, 6 Jul 1999 14:16:29 +0200, Meph posted:
|
|
|"All" IE (3-5) and NN (2-4) versions use the same prop. font for alt-hints
|and the user has no option to change the font. A JS can identify the browser/os
|and add the correct text (or none, because of the NN problem ;).
'----------------------------------

I very much doubt that Netscape Un*x or Netscape Mac use the same font...
not to mention AMozilla, the Amiga port of Mozilla, and the new
many-platforms Mozilla/Raptor/Whatever 5...

-Martin
|\/| _..__|_o._   /\_|_| o._  _   mart.atkins@--
|  |(_||  |_|| | /--\|_|<|| |_>            --bigfoot.com

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