Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 7 Nov 1993.
not nice symbol
alt.ascii-art
· 21 messages · 7 Nov 1993 - 10 Nov 1993
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Robert Chao
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In article <rch...@netcom.com> rch...@netcom.com (Robert Chao) writes: >+ ++++++ >+ + >+ + >+++++++++++ > + + > + + >++++++ + You're a dumbass. If you meant to draw a nazi swastika, the extensions actually point counter-clockwise. The way you have it drawn, I believe it's a peace symbol of some native group of people. How ironic. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chrisrode | Never admit that you're at fault... cro...@iastate.edu | ("No - you don't understand! I AM perfect - --------------------------------- it's the rest of the world that's not!"
----->8----->8----- akitsaws :droW ----->8----->8----- d"m> Ancient Greeks (the great-grandfathers of all science) are "some native d"m> group of people" -- Interesting No, I believe he was refering to the Native Americans. The "negative" Swastika can be found in early Native American artwork. -- Unix/AIX: Rei...@Dsm.Fordham.Edu Vax/VMS : Are...@Mary.Fordham.Edu Bitnet : Areid@Fordmulc Freenet : Bz8...@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu
In article <CG3...@news.iastate.edu> cro...@iastate.edu (Chrisrode) writes: > In article <rch...@netcom.com> rch...@netcom.com (Robert Chao) writes: [effectively correct Swastika deleted] > You're a dumbass. *Sigh* Obviously a compliment, as you could only HOPE to attain the same heights. Who's the dumbass who didn't bother to actually look to make sure his flame was legit (Like any ever are) > If you meant to draw a nazi swastika, the extensions actually point > counter-clockwise. The way to remember it is that the SS was Nazi. Thus the two parts of the Nazi swastika are two crossed S's: (The Nazis rotate theirs, tho) / \/\ \/\ / > ... The way you have it drawn, I believe it's a > peace symbol of some native group of people. -----8<-----8<----- Word: swastika -----8<-----8<----- swas-ti-ka \'swaHs-t-ke also swaH-'steE-\ n [Skt svastika, fr. svasti welfare, fr. su- well + asti he is; akin to OE is; fr. its being regarded as a good luck symbol] (1854) 1: a symbol or ornament in the form of a Greek cross with the ends of the arms extended at right angles all in the same rotry direction 2: a swastika used as a symbol of anti-Semitism or of Nazism ----->8----->8----- akitsaws :droW ----->8----->8----- Ancient Greeks (the great-grandfathers of all science) are "some native group of people" -- Interesting Also, either way is a "correct" swastika, according to a picture in one of the dictionaries I have downstairs. > How ironic. Not really. Did Hitler actually think he was evil? Doubtful. Why WOULDN'T the Nazis choose a symbol of good luck to rally their people? Dabe -- dab...@cs.umd.edu | "Let's Stand Him On | Just because I agree with {...}!uunet!mimsy!dabe | His Head... He's No | everything my boss says | Fun He Fell Right Over" | doesn't mean he agrees Finger for PGP 2.2 Key | - The Firesign Theater | with everything I say.
In article <CG3...@news.iastate.edu> cro...@iastate.edu (Chrisrode) writes: >In article <rch...@netcom.com> rch...@netcom.com (Robert Chao) writes: >>+ ++++++ >>+ + >>+ + >>+++++++++++ >> + + >> + + >>++++++ + > >You're a dumbass. If you meant to draw a nazi swastika, the extensions >actually point counter-clockwise. The way you have it drawn, I believe it's a >peace symbol of some native group of people. How ironic. >-- >------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Chrisrode | Never admit that you're at fault... > cro...@iastate.edu | ("No - you don't understand! I AM perfect - >--------------------------------- it's the rest of the world that's not!" YOU'RE a dumbass. Check any picture of the Nazis you can find. I'm waiting for an apology.... -- Robert Chao Oakland, California
[orig post] >>>+ ++++++ >>>+ + >>>+ + >>>+++++++++++ >>> + + >>> + + >>>++++++ + [response from dumbass poster] >>You're a dumbass. If you meant to draw a nazi swastika, the extensions >>actually point counter-clockwise. The way you have it drawn, I believe it's a >>peace symbol of some native group of people. How ironic. >>-- [response from orig poster] >YOU'RE a dumbass. Check any picture of the Nazis you can find. >I'm waiting for an apology.... [response by me] DOOOOP!!! someone screwed up...BAD!!!! I cant wait to see the apology either. -Tyler
In article <2bi5ts$db...@phakt.usc.edu> tja...@phakt.usc.edu (Cyber Surfer) writes: >[orig post] >>>>+ ++++++ >>>>+ + >>>>+ + >>>>+++++++++++ >>>> + + >>>> + + >>>>++++++ + > >[response from dumbass poster] >>>You're a dumbass. If you meant to draw a nazi swastika, the extensions >>>actually point counter-clockwise. The way you have it drawn, I believe it's a >>>peace symbol of some native group of people. How ironic. >>>-- > >[response from orig poster] >>YOU'RE a dumbass. Check any picture of the Nazis you can find. >>I'm waiting for an apology.... > >[response by me] > >DOOOOP!!! someone screwed up...BAD!!!! >I cant wait to see the apology either. > >-Tyler OK. The *real* dumbass is back. I'm sorry. I based my information on something I thought I remembered one of my history teachers (who I'd also call a dumbass, but I'd probably be wrong about that too) telling the class as an interesting little tidbit. (I might also call him a little uninteresting, but then who really knows...) Again I apologize for midlessly flaming the original poster, who, by all means (refer to article that contains dictionary definition of swastika) was correct in his "not nice picture." I hang my head in shame.
In article <rch...@netcom.com>, rch...@netcom.com (Robert Chao) writes: >In article <CG3...@news.iastate.edu> cro...@iastate.edu (Chrisrode) writes: >>In article <rch...@netcom.com> rch...@netcom.com (Robert Chao) writes: >>>+ ++++++ >>>+ + >>>+ + >>>+++++++++++ >>> + + >>> + + >>>++++++ + >> >>You're a dumbass. If you meant to draw a nazi swastika, the extensions >>actually point counter-clockwise. The way you have it drawn, I believe it's a >>peace symbol of some native group of people. How ironic. >>-- >>------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Chrisrode | Never admit that you're at fault... >> cro...@iastate.edu | ("No - you don't understand! I AM perfect - >>--------------------------------- it's the rest of the world that's not!" > >YOU'RE a dumbass. Check any picture of the Nazis you can find. >I'm waiting for an apology.... > >-- >Robert Chao >Oakland, California I'm sorry to inform you Robert that you are wrong. + + This is still a little off, but it + is much closer to an accurate + + + representation of a + + + + Swastika. + + + + + + + + + + + + + _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| _| rederick _| _| _| . _| _| uhne send comments/flames etc. to fjk...@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
cro...@iastate.edu (Chrisrode) writes: >In article <rch...@netcom.com> rch...@netcom.com (Robert Chao) writes: >>+ ++++++ >>+ + >>+ + >>+++++++++++ >> + + >> + + >>++++++ + >You're a dumbass. If you meant to draw a nazi swastika, the extensions >actually point counter-clockwise. The way you have it drawn, I believe it's a >peace symbol of some native group of people. How ironic. Although a really nasty reponse, you are right. I think it is at least the symbol of the North Star and peace for the Native Americans. I recall it is also common to some other cultures but cant rem. -- "If I was presented with the opportunity to save your life, I cannot be sure if I would do it for the preservation of one of my kind or the glory of being a hero." - ori...@unomaha.edu
In article <DAB...@goober.cs.umd.edu> dab...@cs.umd.edu (Dabe "Dabe" Murphy) writes:
: In article <CG3...@news.iastate.edu> cro...@iastate.edu (Chrisrode) writes:
: > In article <rch...@netcom.com> rch...@netcom.com (Robert Chao) writes:
: > ... The way you have it drawn, I believe it's a
: > peace symbol of some native group of people.
It's been many years since I saw this in an enclopadia, but I believe
the "native" people who use a swastika (in the opposite sense, both in
rotary direction and in philosophy) are the Hopi or Navajo Indians, in
the southwest US.
--
Steve Marzuola Technology ... the knack of Any resemblance between
(marzuola so arranging the world that these views and those of
@owlnet.rice.edu) we don't have to experience Rice University is strictly
it. -- Max Frisch coincidental.
I practiced a Japanese/Chinese martial art called "Kempo" some years back.
Our sensei (teacher) had his this old bag adorned with a mirror image
swastika which is the symbol for this particular branch of chinese boxing.
It felt kinda funny seeing that symbol there, but it helped knowing that
they actually had it way before the 1930's.
Yes, I know this is for posting pictures, here is my somewhat lame
contribution - a four-armed spiral galaxy right out of my research:
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In article <CG3...@news.iastate.edu>, cro...@iastate.edu (Chrisrode) writes: > In article <rch...@netcom.com> rch...@netcom.com (Robert Chao) writes: > >+ ++++++ > >+ + > >+ + > >+++++++++++ > > + + > > + + > >++++++ + > > You're a dumbass. If you meant to draw a nazi swastika, the extensions > actually point counter-clockwise. The way you have it drawn, I believe it's a > peace symbol of some native group of people. How ironic. > -- > The reason why most everyone draws this symbol this way is due to a very large conspiracy. In every single history book, they (for some unknown reason) purposely put all photos of Nazis in with a reversed negative. Thereby making it look like the swastika is supposed to be like this. Not everyone knows this, so be kind in your corrections. ________) ( / Ken Lipka __/_) fer...@engin.umich.edu ( / Graduate Student - Mechanical Engineering (__/ University of Michigan: Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Dan noticed that kenneth r lipka once wrote: >In article <CG3...@news.iastate.edu>, cro...@iastate.edu (Chrisrode) writes: > The reason why most everyone draws this symbol this way is due to a >very large conspiracy. In every single history book, they (for some unknown >reason) purposely put all photos of Nazis in with a reversed negative. Thereby >making it look like the swastika is supposed to be like this. Not everyone >knows this, so be kind in your corrections. Tell me then how come in these pictures the swastika is "backwards" but text is not? I suppose they touched up these pictures digitally? -- Dan .----------------=------------------------------------------------------. | da...@cc.ysu.edu | My views and opinions represent those of every | | da...@wbc.com | student and employee of Youngstown State University, | | (216) 562-1110 | and all people residing within 20 miles of campus. | `----------------=------------------------------------------------------'
>FROM: Darin Reid <rei...@dsm.fordham.edu> > >No, I believe he was refering to the Native Americans. The "negative" >Swastika can be found in early Native American artwork. I have also seen the -swastika used to mark Buddhist temples on Japanese maps. JFK p00...@psilink.com
In article <2bm09u$3j...@news.ysu.edu>, s01...@cc.ysu.edu (Daniel East) writes: > >In article <CG3...@news.iastate.edu>, cro...@iastate.edu (Chrisrode) writes: > > The reason why most everyone draws this symbol this way is due to a > >very large conspiracy. In every single history book, they (for some unknown > >reason) purposely put all photos of Nazis in with a reversed negative. Thereby > >making it look like the swastika is supposed to be like this. Not everyone > >knows this, so be kind in your corrections. > > Tell me then how come in these pictures the swastika is "backwards" but > text is not? I suppose they touched up these pictures digitally? Remeber, these are American texts we're talking about here. No one can speak, let alone read, another language. How would we know the difference? ________) ( / Ken Lipka __/_) fer...@engin.umich.edu ( / Graduate Student - Mechanical Engineering (__/ University of Michigan: Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
What you do consider racist, is not necessarily so. This is a religious hindu symbol. It takes on an evil meaning only because Hitler used it as symbol of his philosophies. However for millenia this has been a sacred paeceful hindu symbol.
Please please please please please, take this swastika-fight to email,
or anywhere but here. Robert Chao, you're on my shitlist for
starting this-- it wasn't even well-executed art.
jorn
>:-(
jor...@Notwerk.mcs.com (Jorn Barger) writes: >Please please please please please, take this swastika-fight to email, >or anywhere but here. Robert Chao, you're on my shitlist for >starting this-- it wasn't even well-executed art. >jorn >>:-( YES, YES, YES!!!!!!!!!! Good work, jorn!!! Bryan McCabe, cs2...@cs.iastate.edu
In article <orion.752692628@cwis>, ori...@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeff M. Beisch) writes: > [..] > Although a really nasty reponse, you are right. I think it is at least the > symbol of the North Star and peace for the Native Americans. I recall it is > also common to some other cultures but cant rem. The Chinese used it, too. That is, I remember a chapter in "the rebels of Liang shan po", where (golden) Swastika are mentioned as ornaments on the robe and/or helmet of a Noble. (as there was no picture, so i'm not sure about which chirality these had) CU L8TR, -- Steffen +------------------------+-------------------------------------+ //// | kre...@igd.fhg.de | Rorschach: None of You understand! | c-OO | kre...@rbg.informatik | I'm not locked up in here with YOU. | | -~ | .th-darmstadt.de | YOU're locked up in here with *ME*. | Kremser +------------------------+-------------------------------------+
In article<296...@psilink.com> p00...@psilink.com wrote: >> >FROM: Darin Reid <rei...@dsm.fordham.edu> >> > >> >No, I believe he was refering to the Native Americans. The "negative" >> >Swastika can be found in early Native American artwork. >> >> I have also seen the -swastika used to mark Buddhist temples >> on Japanese maps. >> >> JFK >> p00...@psilink.com >> >> I happned to read this article and don't really understand what is talking about the subject, though the symbole(the -swastika?) is understood as the mark standing for Buddhist temples in Japan. Ich...@icot.or.jp P.S. Please don't follow this article. I may not read this newsgroup again.
In article <2bl...@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> fer...@pistons.engin.umich.edu (kenneth r lipka) writes: |> |> In article <CG3...@news.iastate.edu>, cro...@iastate.edu (Chrisrode) writes: |> > In article <rch...@netcom.com> rch...@netcom.com (Robert Chao) writes: |> > >+ ++++++ |> > >+ + |> > >+ + |> > >+++++++++++ |> > > + + |> > > + + |> > >++++++ + |> > |> > You're a dumbass. If you meant to draw a nazi swastika, the extensions |> > actually point counter-clockwise. The way you have it drawn, I believe it's a |> > peace symbol of some native group of people. How ironic. |> > -- |> > |> The reason why most everyone draws this symbol this way is due to a |> very large conspiracy. In every single history book, they (for some unknown |> reason) purposely put all photos of Nazis in with a reversed negative. Thereby |> making it look like the swastika is supposed to be like this. Not everyone |> knows this, so be kind in your corrections. There are 2 swatstikas, one female and one male. For reasons that I don't purport to understand the Nazis chose the female one. -- Michael Salmon #include <standard.disclaimer> #include <witty.saying> #include <fancy.pseudo.graphics> Ericsson Telecom AB Stockholm
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