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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 11 Mar 1998.
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alt.ascii-art · 8 messages · 11 Mar 1998 - 20 Mar 1998
Andreas Freise <ad...@mpq.mpg.de> ASCII art 11 Mar 1998 00:00 · permalink
Andy Hood wrote:
> 
> Please note that people are going to get annoyed if you post their art
> without initials.  There are two solutions to this problem:
> 
> 1/  find out who did the work before you post.
> 2/  do not post.

Until now the situation has been rather different: people got
annoyed because other people's art was posted without initials.
So I think there's another solution:

3/ do not care

Most people like to share their pictures and not everyone cares
about signing every picture or about getting credit. I wonder
if those liked you as their speaker. I actually digged out some
names for drawings I got from Miss Kitty's posts. When I emailed
those artists (just to make sure that I was adding the right names)
they were surprised and happy that their pics are still alive
and kicking. Noone was worried about the fact that credits 
were stripped off. I think there's no good in complaining unless
you really know that the artist would.

> Sorry to sound so blunt, but if somebody requests a picture, and you
> post a relevant piece of art, without initials, there is no knowing how
> far the piece may travel around the web in it's stripped form.

Indeed. That's the way those pictures got back here. You cannot
protect drawings. Someone somewhere will remove the credits. I
don't think it's fair to dump the pictures too just because the
initials fell off.

> Just an opinion  (:
dito.

:)
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Donovan <bak...@gwtc.net> ASCII art 11 Mar 1998 00:00 · permalink
Andreas Freise wrote:
> 
> Andy Hood wrote:
> >
> > Please note that people are going to get annoyed if you post their art
> > without initials.  There are two solutions to this problem:
> >
> > 1/  find out who did the work before you post.
> > 2/  do not post.
> 
> Until now the situation has been rather different: people got
> annoyed because other people's art was posted without initials.
> So I think there's another solution:
> 
> 3/ do not care
> 
> Most people like to share their pictures and not everyone cares
> about signing every picture or about getting credit. I wonder
> if those liked you as their speaker. I actually digged out some
> names for drawings I got from Miss Kitty's posts. When I emailed
> those artists (just to make sure that I was adding the right names)
> they were surprised and happy that their pics are still alive
> and kicking. Noone was worried about the fact that credits
> were stripped off. I think there's no good in complaining unless
> you really know that the artist would.

I have to agree. I don't care if my pics are sent around without my
initials. In fact I don't even sign them all. I do care if someone else
puts their initials on my work however....but it really is no big
deal...I just let them know and go on...*S*

> 
> > Sorry to sound so blunt, but if somebody requests a picture, and you
> > post a relevant piece of art, without initials, there is no knowing how
> > far the piece may travel around the web in it's stripped form.
> 
> Indeed. That's the way those pictures got back here. You cannot
> protect drawings. Someone somewhere will remove the credits. I
> don't think it's fair to dump the pictures too just because the
> initials fell off.

This may get back to Kangaroo and I hope it does, but I like his library
idea for his program. I for one hope he is able to use it for his
SigZag. 

> 
> > Just an opinion  (:
> dito.

2 cents added...*S*

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Please note that people are going to get annoyed if you post their art
without initials.  There are two solutions to this problem:

1/  find out who did the work before you post.
2/  do not post.

Sorry to sound so blunt, but if somebody requests a picture, and you
post a relevant piece of art, without initials, there is no knowing how
far the piece may travel around the web in it's stripped form.

Just an opinion  (:

Seal do Mar <l33...@alfa.ist.utl.pt> ASCII art 13 Mar 1998 00:00 · permalink
Andreas Freise (ad...@mpq.mpg.de) wrote:
> Andy Hood wrote:
> > 
> > Please note that people are going to get annoyed if you post their art
> > without initials.  There are two solutions to this problem:
> > 
> > 1/  find out who did the work before you post.
> > 2/  do not post.

> Until now the situation has been rather different: people got
> annoyed because other people's art was posted without initials.
> So I think there's another solution:

> 3/ do not care

	personally I like to see my drawings posted with my inicials,
if they are posted without inicials I might find it abusive, but I don't
really care. But when someone posts my drawings saying that they are
their own, or implying it like "here are some drawings I have" ... that
pisses me off.
	About Miss kitty ... well, she's making a carrer of posting without
initials, I've even seen she posting things where she forgot to remove the
initial and after a while post it again without the inicial. So I really
don't believe find you the inicials for the drawings you're posting is gonna
do anything, and most of them are also refered here by their own authors or
by people that knows their work. I don't like it, but then again, as long
as you don't claim it as your own ...

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Miss Kitty <mis...@global.dyn.ml.org> ASCII art 15 Mar 1998 00:00 · permalink
-> From: Andy Hood <ah7...@bris.ac.uk>
-> Please note that people are going to get annoyed if you post their
-> art without initials.  There are two solutions to this problem:
->
-> 1/  find out who did the work before you post.
-> 2/  do not post.
As you wish....let the newsgroup fill up
with spam. Have a nice life...asshole!

-> Sorry to sound so blunt, but if somebody requests a picture, and you
-> post a relevant piece of art, without initials, there is no knowing
-> how far the piece may travel around the web in it's stripped form.

So what?! If someone sees it, they can re-claim it as their own!
The pictures I posted are old stuff that I found, and they DID
NOT HAVE INITIALS! I kdon't know how many times I have to repeat
that. I don't remove the initials, I just reposted a neat picture
that I found....if you'd rather have pyschic hotline spam, and
nude, nude, nude! advertisements, rather than a picture, so
be it!

-> Just an opinion  (:

Stick your opinion up your ass!

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-> From: Andreas Freise <ad...@mpq.mpg.de>
-> Indeed. That's the way those pictures got back here. You cannot
-> protect drawings. Someone somewhere will remove the credits. I
-> don't think it's fair to dump the pictures too just because the
-> initials fell off.
It's also not fair to dump on the person who happened
to post the pictures that already had NO INITIALS...
But they would rather have spam than pictures....
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Miss Kitty <mis...@global.dyn.ml.org> wrote:
>-> From: Andy Hood <ah7...@bris.ac.uk>
>-> Please note that people are going to get annoyed if you post their
>-> art without initials.  There are two solutions to this problem:
>->
>-> 1/  find out who did the work before you post.
>-> 2/  do not post.
>As you wish....let the newsgroup fill up
>with spam. Have a nice life...asshole!

>-> Sorry to sound so blunt, but if somebody requests a picture, and you
>-> post a relevant piece of art, without initials, there is no knowing
>-> how far the piece may travel around the web in it's stripped form.

>So what?! If someone sees it, they can re-claim it as their own!
>The pictures I posted are old stuff that I found, and they DID
>NOT HAVE INITIALS! I kdon't know how many times I have to repeat
>that. I don't remove the initials, I just reposted a neat picture
>that I found....if you'd rather have pyschic hotline spam, and
>nude, nude, nude! advertisements, rather than a picture, so
>be it!


You are right...there is a vast amount of Ascii Art without initials 
or indication of the author...and I am willing to accept that you 
are not stripping off initials but surely, _some_ of the pictures 
you obtain for re-posting must carry initials or author identification ? 

Do any of your pictures ever carry credits or just that one from Row ?

Bye,

Miss Kitty <mis...@global.dyn.ml.org> ASCII art 20 Mar 1998 00:00 · permalink
-> From: Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz>
->
-> You are right...there is a vast amount of Ascii Art without initials
-> or indication of the author...and I am willing to accept that you
-> are not stripping off initials but surely, _some_ of the pictures
-> you obtain for re-posting must carry initials or author
-> identification ?
If they come with identification, then they are obtained that
way....

-> Do any of your pictures ever carry credits or just that one
-> from Row ?

I have lots of stuff with initials - snd/jgs/carter/fl/etc....
They just didn't have anything I wanted to post at that moment...
Now, "moose" we continue this stupid thread?

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