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Original Usenet thread from rec.arts.ascii, started 19 Aug 1996.
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QUESTION: Does ascii-art violate copyright protection?

QUESTION: Does ascii-art violate copyright protection?

rec.arts.ascii · 4 messages · 19 Aug 1996 - 26 Aug 1996

Hi Ken.

> And if you do not mind tell me I would like to know where your
> curiousity stems from in asking that question... are you a graphic
> designer perhaps...?

Not.  I'm just curious.  Don't ask me why.

I've always wondered how one enforces a copyright on a comic
character.  I know those Calvin and Hobbes stickers that you see on
cars sometimes, those are all unauthorized and are violations of
copyright laws.  I've always wondered, how is it decided that these
are a violation of the copyright?  When does a little boy in a space
suit turn into Spaceman Spiff and a violation of the Calivin and
Hobbes copyright?  How similar does it have to get?

I'm about to ask that in rec.arts.comics.strips, but I thought I'd ask
the ascii artists first.  This all seems to be a big grey area to me.

Still curious...

	-Mike

Don Bertino <ber...@netcom.com> ASCII art 23 Aug 1996 00:00 · permalink · report
Calvin and Hobbes ARE NOT violations of copyright laws...in the
last Calvin and Hobbes book,in the intro i believe, you will
find Bill Waterson saying that he HAS NOT copyright protected any of his
characters. Thus, those stickers you see of Calvin pissing on
something are free to use...so C&H ascii's probably would not
violate any laws, yet (in my opinion) the use of other figures
on items made to be sold would be a violation.
i may be wrong on all of this but i'm pretty sure.
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In article <4vj4vd$il...@freenet.vcu.edu> ber...@netcom.com (Don Bertino) writes:
>Calvin and Hobbes ARE NOT violations of copyright laws...in the
>last Calvin and Hobbes book,in the intro i believe, you will
>find Bill Waterson saying that he HAS NOT copyright protected any of his
>characters. Thus, those stickers you see of Calvin pissing on
>something are free to use...so C&H ascii's probably would not
>violate any laws, yet (in my opinion) the use of other figures
>on items made to be sold would be a violation.
	
	I think you and I read different books.  I read in 
Calvin and Hobbes 10th Anniversary Book that Waterson has never
licensed his drawings to outsiders because his subjects are 
too controversial at times and licensees would be constantly 
telling him how to write his strip for a broader (commercial) appeal.

	He did mention that the strip with Calvin and Hobbes
dancing to a classical phonograph record playing at 78 rpm was
probably one of the most illegally distributed violations of his
copyright.
	
>i may be wrong on all of this but i'm pretty sure.

Go read it again, this time don't just look at the pictures...

Ren
dona nobis pacem

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