Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 23 Jan 2002.
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· 23 messages · 23 Jan 2002 - 3 Feb 2002
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"drsquare" <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote in message news:fhi...@4ax.com... > On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 23:33:35 -0500, in alt.ascii-art, > ("Scrounge Weasel" <pir...@microsoft.com>) wrote: <snip> > That looks converted. I used JavE to help make the bowl, and then I put the Cheerios in by hand. Why are you people so sensitive about using anything but Notepad to make pictures?
In article <u4u...@corp.supernews.com>, Scrounge Weasel wrote: > "drsquare" <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote in message > news:fhi...@4ax.com... >> On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 23:33:35 -0500, in alt.ascii-art, >> ("Scrounge Weasel" <pir...@microsoft.com>) wrote: ><snip> >> That looks converted. > > I used JavE to help make the bowl, and then I put the Cheerios in by hand. > > Why are you people so sensitive about using anything but Notepad to make > pictures? > > i personally see nothing wrong w/ using jave to help draw ascii i think its a wonderful way for me to learn, because i tend to use it to rough out some of my drawings before adding in details or changes by hand i dont think ive ever used notepad to draw ascii, actually (i'm partial to vim) (: obascii: ,--------------------------------. / \-/ ooo \ ( J|a|v|E or |=| or \ / | |\ /| ) \ /-\ '-' V | | V | / _ `--------------------------------' (_) O o . A___A ( 6 6 ) \_^_/ -- | A___A _/_ /_ _ / _ _/_ _ ,_ _ | ( @ @ ) (/(/ (/(/ (/(/.( / /(-'/< (_\( . (_) / `(_) | \_^_/ katATthekatDOTorg ._/
"drsquare" <now...@nowhere.co.uk> skrev i meddelandet news:giq...@4ax.com > On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 02:31:21 -0600, in alt.ascii-art, > (Kevan <cut...@shreve.net>) wrote: > > >On Thu, 24 Jan 2002 06:51:31 +0000 (UTC), drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> from > >BT Openworld wrote: > > > >>>I used JavE to help make the bowl, and then I put the Cheerios in by hand. > >>> > >>>Why are you people so sensitive about using anything but Notepad to make > >>>pictures? > >> > >>You can use whatever you want, I just don't like people who have programs > >>do the work for them. > > > >Luddite. > > What? Main Entry: Ludd�ite Pronunciation: 'l&-"dIt Function: NOUN Etymology: perhaps from Ned LUDD, 18th century Leicestershire workman who destroyed machinery Date: 1811 : one of a group of early 19th century English workmen destroying laborsaving machinery as a protest; BROADLY : one who is opposed to especially technological change -jg
On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, drsquare wrote: [...] > You can use whatever you want, I just don't like people who have programs > do the work for them. Come on now. Use a typewriter and be quiet, would you. Andreas -- ________________________________________________ http://www.ascii-art.de
"drsquare" <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote in message news:hk9...@4ax.com... > On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:52:44 -0500, in alt.ascii-art, > ("Scrounge Weasel" <pir...@microsoft.com>) wrote: > > >"drsquare" <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote in message > >news:fhi...@4ax.com... > >> On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 23:33:35 -0500, in alt.ascii-art, > >> ("Scrounge Weasel" <pir...@microsoft.com>) wrote: > ><snip> > >> That looks converted. > > > >I used JavE to help make the bowl, and then I put the Cheerios in by hand. > > > >Why are you people so sensitive about using anything but Notepad to make > >pictures? > > You can use whatever you want, I just don't like people who have programs > do the work for them. Wait... You "don't like people"? You harbor dislike for the actual PEOPLE who use anything but a flat text editor?
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 00:14:33 -0500, "Scrounge Weasel" <pir...@microsoft.com> sucked my dick and said: >"drsquare" <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote in message >> On Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:52:44 -0500, in alt.ascii-art, >> ("Scrounge Weasel" <pir...@microsoft.com>) wrote: >> >"drsquare" <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote in message >> >> On Tue, 22 Jan 2002 23:33:35 -0500, in alt.ascii-art, >> >> ("Scrounge Weasel" <pir...@microsoft.com>) wrote: >> ><snip> >> >> That looks converted. >> >I used JavE to help make the bowl, and then I put the Cheerios in by >hand. >> >Why are you people so sensitive about using anything but Notepad to make >> >pictures? >> You can use whatever you want, I just don't like people who have programs >> do the work for them. >Wait... You "don't like people"? You harbor dislike for the actual PEOPLE >who use anything but a flat text editor? i don't like people... period... -- smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself if in doubt, suck me www.AdderleyStreet.co.za
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 02:18:03 -0600, Kevan <cut...@shreve.net> sucked my dick and said: >On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 07:36:57 +0000 (UTC), drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> from >BT Openworld wrote: >>On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 00:14:33 -0500, in alt.ascii-art, >> ("Scrounge Weasel" <pir...@microsoft.com>) wrote: >>>"drsquare" <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote in message >>>> >I used JavE to help make the bowl, and then I put the Cheerios in by >>>hand. >>>> >Why are you people so sensitive about using anything but Notepad to make >>>> >pictures? >>>> You can use whatever you want, I just don't like people who have programs >>>> do the work for them. >>>Wait... You "don't like people"? You harbor dislike for the actual PEOPLE >>>who use anything but a flat text editor? >>Correct. >Well, that's one of the stupidest reasons I have ever heard for disliking >someone. >Why don't you just simplify things and say you're an asshole? Then you don't >have to give reasons. i'm an asshole... -- smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself if in doubt, suck me www.AdderleyStreet.co.za
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:25:02 +0000 (UTC), drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote: >On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 02:18:03 -0600, in alt.ascii-art, > (Kevan <cut...@shreve.net>) wrote: > >>On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 07:36:57 +0000 (UTC), drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> from >>BT Openworld wrote: >>>>> You can use whatever you want, I just don't like people who have programs >>>>> do the work for them. >>>> >>>>Wait... You "don't like people"? You harbor dislike for the actual PEOPLE >>>>who use anything but a flat text editor? >>> >>>Correct. >> >>Well, that's one of the stupidest reasons I have ever heard for disliking >>someone. > >I didn't say I disliked them totally, but disliked them for using a program >that does things for them. > does what for them?
> >>>Wait... You "don't like people"? You harbor dislike for the actual PEOPLE > >>>who use anything but a flat text editor? > >>Correct. > >Well, that's one of the stupidest reasons I have ever heard for disliking > >someone. > >Why don't you just simplify things and say you're an asshole? Then you don't > >have to give reasons. > > i'm an asshole... We know :) At least you're an honest asshole - there is nothing worse than an asshole who is a liar too and claims he's a nice guy .. or worse that he thinks he is.
> >Wait... You "don't like people"? You harbor dislike for the actual PEOPLE > >who use anything but a flat text editor? > > i don't like people... period... People don't like you either.
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 22:50:21 +0100, "CeeJay" <use...@ceejay.cjb.REMOVEnet> sucked my dick and said: >> >>>Wait... You "don't like people"? You harbor dislike for the actual PEOPLE >> >>>who use anything but a flat text editor? >> >>Correct. >> >Well, that's one of the stupidest reasons I have ever heard for disliking >> >someone. >> >Why don't you just simplify things and say you're an asshole? Then you don't >> >have to give reasons. >> i'm an asshole... >We know :) >At least you're an honest asshole - there is nothing worse than an asshole who >is a liar too and claims he's a nice guy .. or worse that he thinks he is. no point in denying it... -- smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself if in doubt, suck me www.AdderleyStreet.co.za
On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 22:51:45 +0100, "CeeJay" <use...@ceejay.cjb.REMOVEnet> sucked my dick and said: >> >Wait... You "don't like people"? You harbor dislike for the actual PEOPLE >> >who use anything but a flat text editor? >> i don't like people... period... >People don't like you either. yeh... then i get pissed and kill them... so far i've raped and killed over 50 people in South Africa... all of them white... apart from being a serial killer and rapist, i also enjoy braggin openly about it on Usenet and web forums... people assume that I'm lying... it's kinda fun... -- smash yer modem, reboot, kill yerself if in doubt, suck me www.AdderleyStreet.co.za
> I didn't say I disliked them totally, but disliked them for using a program > that does things for them. why even bother having a PC...after all it is those mini electronics that do a lot of work for the person. Afterall, if these gadgets were not there, there would have been no automation programs. How about each person trying to write their own Compiler, then write their own O/S and then write their own Text editor and then..... I have as my friends say a Compulsive Gadget Obsession and the same for Automation software. Why should I spend time on things that someone has already worked on and spend time. Let me benefit from their work and take on from there. Do you think there is a point in re-inventing the wheel and fire and then maybe in a million years finally suceed to make your own PC and electricity??? Evolve from the point where the world had evolved to. Don't eveolve from the amoeba.... These thoughts are not targetted towards anyone in specific, but my thoughts on people who are scared to use Automation or Technology. I like a few things traditionally, but somethings are best done Automated... ;) ?:) "drsquare" <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote in message news:vhe...@4ax.com... > On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 02:18:03 -0600, in alt.ascii-art, > (Kevan <cut...@shreve.net>) wrote: > > >On Fri, 25 Jan 2002 07:36:57 +0000 (UTC), drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> from > >BT Openworld wrote: > >>>> You can use whatever you want, I just don't like people who have programs > >>>> do the work for them. > >>> > >>>Wait... You "don't like people"? You harbor dislike for the actual PEOPLE > >>>who use anything but a flat text editor? > >> > >>Correct. > > > >Well, that's one of the stupidest reasons I have ever heard for disliking > >someone. > > I didn't say I disliked them totally, but disliked them for using a program > that does things for them. >
On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 19:09:15 +0000 (UTC), drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote: >On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 09:47:12 +0400, in alt.ascii-art, > ("Poster" <Pos...@NoSpam.net>) wrote: > >>> I didn't say I disliked them totally, but disliked them for using a >>program >>> that does things for them. >> >>why even bother having a PC...after all it is those mini electronics >>that do a lot of work for the person. > >The PC doesn't do ASCII art for people. These programs do the art for >people. which program would that be? > >>Afterall, if these gadgets were >>not there, there would have been no automation programs. How about each >>person trying to write their own Compiler, then write their own O/S and >>then write their own Text editor and then..... > >That doesn't make any sense at all. > you missed the point,,, again.
I HATE Artists that use PAINTS... Let them go to the Forest, find Grass, flowers and herb that can produce color. Let them go home and extract color from these and then find Deer/Camer/Horses and make a brush out of their hair. Let them go kill DEER and make canvas from the hides, or find some caves... That is what you imply when you say that you ABHOR the use of Programs... An Artist will be an Artist, and a better if he can use tools to enhace his productivity. If he were to spend time doing all that, he would never get to paint. HOPE YOU GET THE POINT... if not, forget it, there's no point...you never will ?:) "drsquare" <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote in message news:94m...@4ax.com... > On 27 Jan 2002 02:15:16 GMT, in alt.ascii-art, > (mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net (MJP)) wrote: > > >On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 19:09:15 +0000 (UTC), drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote: > >>>why even bother having a PC...after all it is those mini electronics > >>>that do a lot of work for the person. > >> > >>The PC doesn't do ASCII art for people. These programs do the art for > >>people. > > > >which program would that be? > > Things like jave, or converters. >
On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 11:48:07 +0000 (UTC), drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote: >On 27 Jan 2002 02:15:16 GMT, in alt.ascii-art, > (mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net (MJP)) wrote: > >>On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 19:09:15 +0000 (UTC), drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote: >>>>why even bother having a PC...after all it is those mini electronics >>>>that do a lot of work for the person. >>> >>>The PC doesn't do ASCII art for people. These programs do the art for >>>people. >> >>which program would that be? > >Things like jave, or converters. > I opened jave up and let it sit a long time, but it never drew a picture, are you sure it draws for me?
"MJP" <mik...@bluedwarf.spam.net> wrote in message news:3c53fd94.598496@205.158.27.245... > On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 11:48:07 +0000 (UTC), drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote: > I opened jave up and let it sit a long time, but it never drew a picture, > are you sure it draws for me? LOL!
drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote in message news:ctq...@4ax.com... > On Sun, 27 Jan 2002 16:23:13 +0400, in alt.ascii-art, > ("Poster" <Pos...@NoSpam.net>) wrote: > > >I HATE Artists that use PAINTS... > > > >Let them go to the Forest, find Grass, flowers and herb that can produce > >color. > >Let them go home and extract color from these and then find > >Deer/Camer/Horses > >and make a brush out of their hair. Let them go kill DEER and make canvas > >from > >the hides, or find some caves... > > A better analogy would be an artist who used paint by numbers. > Nah, I think "poster"s was better. If a person uses a program other than mspaint, to draw, does that make them a 'BAD' computer-graphics artist? Does using a program such as 'paintshop' or 'micrografx picture publisher' to do effects such as embossing, smoothing, motion blur, posterising......etc.... make them a 'BAD' artist? Jave and other such programs are the evolution of ASCII art programs. Sure notepad will let you create an ascii art, but mspaint will let you draw a picture of [anything], But these other programs grant the use of better tools to create better pictures quicker (or for a beginner to pick up the skills quicker). Using tools isn't bad. do you use a fridge to keep your food cool and bacteria/fungus free? or do you hunt&gather every morning? do you use a cooker to heat your food? or do you collect logs and spark flints to create fire? do you use a fryingpan/saucepan/other container to contain your food while it cooks? or do you spike it on a stick and hang it over your fire? when your food is cooked, do you eat it with the very same hands you wiped your *ahem* on? or do you use a knife and fork in hands that have been 'saved' by toilet roll and a tap with running water?............... do you drive?........ do you own a tin opener........ a tool kit?....... I think I made my point! Using tools is 'good'. tools help make lighter easier work. they aren't cheating aids, and no program like jave will do your ascii art for you. you may prefer to use notepad, it might make you feel like you've accomplished more? but I don't think Jave is cheating, just aiding. Any way...... what do I know! I live in a 21st century house, with modern convieniences, (knowing how to live basic/wild!. Perfering my mod-cons to a cave-and-club!). all the best, (who draws cheerios? They are the worst tasting cerial I know! - but thats only my opinion, Just as drsquare has opinions!) RES.
hmm.....curious!!! so a radio crystallographer who uses a computer to compile thousands of numbers to be able to synthesise a drug relatively quickly, rather than using an old style adding machine which may take years instead of hours(or better yet, pen and paper!) is a BAD scientist? I am going to say no more on this subject because I think it has run off-topic for long enough. I'd like to hear your reply though! res. drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote in message news:6nr...@4ax.com... > On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 00:06:14 -0000, in alt.ascii-art, > ("-�e��N@n�e-" <z_r...@hotmail.com>) wrote: > > >drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote in message > >news:ctq...@4ax.com... > > > >> A better analogy would be an artist who used paint by numbers. > > > >Nah, I think "poster"s was better. > > > >If a person uses a program other than mspaint, to draw, does that make them > >a 'BAD' computer-graphics artist? > > It makes them a bad artist. > > >Does using a program such as 'paintshop' > >or 'micrografx picture publisher' to do effects such as embossing, > >smoothing, motion blur, posterising......etc.... make them a 'BAD' artist? > > It means they rely on tools to do things for them rather than doing them > themselves. The same way people who use Frontpage or Dreamweaver are > generally bad web-page developers. > > > > -- > Drsquare > '. .' . . > '. : : .'' > : : : .' > : : : : .' > : : : : : : : > : :' ' ' . : : : : : > : : : : : : > : .'''. : . .: > : : ` : : . : > '.'...'.' : > :''''' ' : > : . : > : : : > '.....:......'
"drsquare" <now...@nowhere.co.uk> skrev i meddelandet news:3h9...@4ax.com > On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 09:17:46 -0000, in alt.ascii-art, > ("-�e��N@n�e-" <z_r...@hotmail.com>) wrote: > > >hmm.....curious!!! > > > >so a radio crystallographer who uses a computer to compile thousands of > >numbers to be able to synthesise a drug relatively quickly, rather than > >using an old style adding machine which may take years instead of hours(or > >better yet, pen and paper!) is a BAD scientist? > > That is merely automating a repetitive, trivial task. It is not doing any > of the science for him. Are you saying there are programs that can do art for me? -jg
"drsquare" <now...@nowhere.co.uk> skrev i meddelandet news:u1g...@4ax.com > On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 23:29:42 +0100, in alt.ascii-art, > ("Joaquim G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com>) wrote: > > >"drsquare" <now...@nowhere.co.uk> skrev i meddelandet > >news:3h9...@4ax.com > >> > >> That is merely automating a repetitive, trivial task. > >> It is not doing any of the science for him. > > > >Are you saying there are programs that can do art for me? > > There's programs which can automate the task of doing pictures. Oh, so it's not doing any of the art for me? I thought that was your original objection to converters? On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 19:09:15 +0000 (UTC), drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote: > >The PC doesn't do ASCII art for people. These programs do the >art for people. Sure looks like it. -jg
There are machines (ROBOTS) that Make Automobiles... There are machines that go to the Moon/mars and beyond BTW, which program makes ART, for example I say I want the program to make a picture of Claudia Schiffer doing a ballet or Kylie Minogue or Sarah Connor in her LATEST Dress ;) Which program will make these for me??? I am interested in such a program... HONEST!! "Joaquim G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com> wrote in message news:a3dvr4$17lf70$2...@ID-102694.news.dfncis.de... > "drsquare" <now...@nowhere.co.uk> skrev i meddelandet > news:u1g...@4ax.com > > On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 23:29:42 +0100, in alt.ascii-art, > > ("Joaquim G�ndara" <cla...@lords.com>) wrote: > > > > >"drsquare" <now...@nowhere.co.uk> skrev i meddelandet > > >news:3h9...@4ax.com > > >> > > >> That is merely automating a repetitive, trivial task. > > >> It is not doing any of the science for him. > > > > > >Are you saying there are programs that can do art for me? > > > > There's programs which can automate the task of doing pictures. > > Oh, so it's not doing any of the art for me? I thought that was > your original objection to converters? > > On Sat, 26 Jan 2002 19:09:15 +0000 (UTC), > drsquare <now...@nowhere.co.uk> wrote: > > > >The PC doesn't do ASCII art for people. These programs do the > >art for people. > > Sure looks like it. > > -jg > >
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