ATTEN: Heads or tails?

JRO wrote:
> 
> Maybe some of you out there kin make heads er tails
> of this here line of electronik-type mail correspondence
> with my ISP's server operator.





> From: Michael Tomas <ful...@fullnet.net>
> To: Jonathon R. Oglesbee
> Subject: Re: Failed posts
> 
> The filtering is setup and is working. Ensure you dont have any phrases
> or
> such in your asci art. The vendor already has gone through and the
> filters
> are setup correctly.

Here is the problem that i see.....What exactaly does
" any phrases or such in your asci art" mean?....

He keeps talking about filters and saying shit like
"It would seem something in your post is causing it to be filtered. Not
sure if it has to do with the something in the content in the art."
but never mentions WHAT THE FUCK IS BIENG FILTERED.

It cant be dirty words you cuss all the time,but the funnnnnny thing
is that your server dont get nothing IN for alt.ascii-art and probly
none of the other ones much either....

Why does he fail to mention WHAT THE FUCK IS BIENG FILTERED,is it random.

Email me a copy of something that wont post and change it till it DOES
post and lets see what the difference IS...

and the fact that he says 
"Not sure if it has to do with the
 something in the content in the art"

sounds VERY wierd.

1   KROGG           11.50  0  1999-11-30 04:58:54


Imagine what one of these:
    ,______________________________________
   |_________________,----------._ [____]  ""-,__  __....-----===== 
                  (_(||||||||||||)___________/   ""                |
                     `----------' Krogg98[ ))"-,                   |
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                                                  `/           """"
could be usefull for if you had one of these:

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     |    W A S T E     | Plastic
     J                  F Grabage can
      F  NON EDIBILE   J  of maggots
      |                |
      J                F
       F              J
       |              | Krogg
       `--...____...--'



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JRO <twe...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> At 10:56 AM 11/29/99 -0600, Jonathon R. Oglesbee wrote:

 BTW, posting personal mails could get you in serious trouble, you know?
Just to let you know....

> From: Michael Tomas <ful...@fullnet.net>
> To: Jonathon R. Oglesbee
> Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 11:21 AM
> Subject: Re: Failed posts
> 
> It would seem something in your post is causing it to be filtered. Not
> sure
> if it has to do with the something in the content in the art.

 Not sure?  NOT SURE?!?  Hey, what kind of news admin is this? Or isn't
he the news-admin? Is there a news-admin? Maybe you should speak to the
right person...  If someone is offering a service he HAS TO KNOW what
the problem is or where to look for if one occures. "Not sure" isn't
very professionl, ya know?

> From: Michael Tomas <ful...@fullnet.net>
> To: Jonathon R. Oglesbee
> Subject: Re: Failed posts
> 
> The filters are set for incoming and outgoing. I cannot open the
> filters
> for one group, because I do not have that option to specify.

 Maybe they should get then a descent news-server? If the one that they
are using doesn't allow to set it up useful then they should switch to
another one. There are tons of free news servers (e.g. inn - but I doubt
that they would be able to work under Linux and I don't know if inn is
available for Windows...). Tell them to get a descent newsserver if
their doesn't allow to set it up in a proper way.
 On the other hand "because I do not have that option" _very often_
means the following: "because I have not found that option yet" :-(
Very often they try to say "No, that's not possible" but are only not
able to find out _how_ it's possible. _Don't_ _EVER_ let tell you that
something isn't possible - they are most of the time just too lazy to
get their asses off the seat!

> From: Michael Tomas <ful...@fullnet.net>
> To: Jonathon R. Oglesbee
> Subject: Re: Failed posts
> 
> The filtering is setup and is working. Ensure you dont have any phrases
> or
> such in your asci art. The vendor already has gone through and the
> filters
> are setup correctly.

 So, like already sugguested - ask what "any phrases" might mean and
that he should speak more clear to you and not to hide behind obscure
phrases himself.

 ... maybe you should use a little less emotional language than me, that
always comes quite well ;)

 Have very much luck, Jonathon!
-- 
Gerfried Fuchs
<URL:mailto:alf...@innocent.com>
<URL:http://alfie.ist.org/alfie/>

JRO wrote:
> 
> Maybe some of you out there kin make heads er tails
> of this here line of electronik-type mail correspondence
> with my ISP's server operator. I cain't.
<snip>

Have you tried some newsgroup that specifies in the kind of problem you
have? You may be missing out on some good advice by posting to the wrong
audience. I know this group is "home" to you, as it is for me, but the
topic of the group is ascii art - we're good at text formatting here,
maybe not so good at news servers...    :-/


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Krogg <kro...@gtcom.net> wrote in message news:384...@gtcom.net...
> JRO wrote:
> >
> > Maybe some of you out there kin make heads er tails
> > of this here line of electronik-type mail correspondence
> > with my ISP's server operator.
>
>
>
>
>
> > From: Michael Tomas <ful...@fullnet.net>
> > To: Jonathon R. Oglesbee
> > Subject: Re: Failed posts
> >
> > The filtering is setup and is working. Ensure you dont have any phrases
> > or
> > such in your asci art. The vendor already has gone through and the
> > filters
> > are setup correctly.
>
> Here is the problem that i see.....What exactaly does
> " any phrases or such in your asci art" mean?....
>
> He keeps talking about filters and saying shit like
> "It would seem something in your post is causing it to be filtered. Not
> sure if it has to do with the something in the content in the art."
> but never mentions WHAT THE FUCK IS BIENG FILTERED.
>
> It cant be dirty words you cuss all the time,but the funnnnnny thing
> is that your server dont get nothing IN for alt.ascii-art and probly
> none of the other ones much either....
>
> Why does he fail to mention WHAT THE FUCK IS BIENG FILTERED,is it random.
>
> Email me a copy of something that wont post and change it till it DOES
> post and lets see what the difference IS...
>
> and the fact that he says
> "Not sure if it has to do with the
>  something in the content in the art"
>
> sounds VERY wierd.
>
> 1   KROGG           11.50  0  1999-11-30 04:58:54
>
>
> Imagine what one of these:
>     ,______________________________________
>    |_________________,----------._ [____]  ""-,__  __....-----=====
>                   (_(||||||||||||)___________/   ""                |
>                      `----------' Krogg98[ ))"-,                   |
>                                           ""    `,  _,--....___    |
>                                                   `/           """"
> could be usefull for if you had one of these:
>
>              ____
>     _,---""""....""""---._
>    [_|`--::::;;;;::::--'|_]
>      F       """"       J
>      |    W A S T E     | Plastic
>      J                  F Grabage can
>       F  NON EDIBILE   J  of maggots
>       |                |
>       J                F
>        F              J
>        |              | Krogg
>        `--...____...--'
>
>
>
> --

Insightful and telling, as usual.

JRO

Veronica Karlsson <aci...@earthling.net> wrote in message news:384...@earthling.net...
> JRO wrote:
> >
> > Maybe some of you out there kin make heads er tails
> > of this here line of electronik-type mail correspondence
> > with my ISP's server operator. I cain't.
> <snip>
>
> Have you tried some newsgroup that specifies in the kind of problem you
> have? You may be missing out on some good advice by posting to the wrong
> audience. I know this group is "home" to you, as it is for me, but the
> topic of the group is ascii art - we're good at text formatting here,
> maybe not so good at news servers...    :-/


You're probably right. I could probably also do better posting dry discussions
about HTML and java and what the cat dragged in, on another news group, too.
Still, I thought it rather funny - and also, although it might have been better
posted to alt.bad.newsservers-whattodo?, I thought others here might also find it
amusing. Furthermore, there are some folks here who do know a thing or to, and many
others who read this newsgroup that do. Since my laughable problems with my ISP's news
server revolve around an inability to post (or recieve posts) of text-art, I imagined
resources with some interest IN text-art might present themselves.

Next week, I have plans to start a series of lectures about cholera, or perhaps about
the proper distributor timing advance on "nailhead" Buick engines... Probably without
illustration, but good, clean fun, nevertheless.

JRO

Maybe some of you out there kin make heads er tails
of this here line of electronik-type mail correspondence
with my ISP's server operator. I cain't. Fer years now,
I reckon I haff been complainin' about lost posts, and/or
no traffic on their server. That's why I read off'n a
different server, and post through the one I pays for (it'd
be useless to try to read off my ISP's server; it has
nothing on it).

I can't figger it out. Apparently, they cain't figger it
out. Dejanoose ain't dependable er easy enough fer me to
want to use it, alla time, but this are the only ISP with
a news server, I got access to, here in these hills.

Maybe some of y'all server-type geniuses could give this
poor feller some expert type advice, or at least folks could
post complaints to him. I figgers 'bout another day, and I
will toss it to the wind, and give up on text-type-cartoons.
On account of I are startin' to git aggrivations over this.
He were kind enough to provide his name and number, and email,
and yah - this is the admin guy who posted a test to this
newsgroup, a while back....

Hey, maybe they'd just let me use their box, or post for
me, huh?

JRO



At 10:56 AM 11/29/99 -0600, Jonathon R. Oglesbee wrote:

>Any reason why this attempted post wouldn't post to the
>news server? I have sent this three or four times, now,
>and it has never appeared on usenet. It's not the only
>failed post, by any means... just the last one I tried
>this morning.


From: Michael Tomas <ful...@fullnet.net>
To: Jonathon R. Oglesbee
Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: Failed posts

It would seem something in your post is causing it to be filtered. Not
sure
if it has to do with the something in the content in the art.

At 11:49 AM 11/29/99 -0600, Jonathon R. Oglesbee wrote:
>Dear Michael,
>
>     I don't think so. I make a lot of posts without any
>text-art (I don't think it's art, atall). Same problem.
>When I get a post that won't post, I can post it over
>and over and over, and it don't turn up.
>
>     Sometimes, I can rewrite one, and it will post. Usually,
>this doesn't work, but it has a few times.
>
>     What's between Tahlequah and y'all? Is it these rednecks
>running operations, over this way?
>
>     Like; how come (by accident), I noticed I was able to
>post a URL, the other day?
>
>     If I can't post text-cartoons to usenet, I won't need
>an ISP. I appreciate all the help, but I'd like this problem
>solved. Can you look into it, or find some flunky to do the
>legwork for you? It's about all I do with this stupid box,
>you see, and if I cain't do that, I'd just as soon save the
>$19.95.
>
>     Be good..... Johnny




>Hey Mike,
>
>     Yah, it's filtering, alright. alt.ascii-art seems to be filtered,
pretty
>bad. Whatever you're using to filter posts recieved, is also filtering
some
>of my posts sent. Dig in your mail/post programs, and see what
security and
>filters are set. That newsgroup has almost no traffic on it, so
I "read"
>from new.jmu.edu, and only post through fullnet. If you re-set or drop
>whatever
>filter properties that seem to be blocking stuff in/out of this
newsgroup,
>then the probs should go away. Right?
>
>     Johnny


From: Michael Tomas <ful...@fullnet.net>
To: Jonathon R. Oglesbee
Subject: Re: Failed posts

The filters are set for incoming and outgoing. I cannot open the
filters
for one group, because I do not have that option to specify.

At 04:41 PM 11/29/99 -0600, you wrote:
>Dear Mike,
>
>     Well, something is wrong here. And it's in your filtering
>set-up. I think this is quite obvious. Keep digging, and get
>some help if you need it.
>
>     I'll be happy to fire posts through, whenever you'd like
>to do some testing, or any other thing that might help.
>
>     Your filtering of posts recieved has already ran me to
>using a free server. For some reason, it's catching most of
>the traffic to alt.ascii-art, and not forwarding it, just as
>it seems to catch many of my posts from going out, from time
>to time. Since all traffic to that newsgroup is plain text,
>your whatever filtering you're doing is highly inappropriate.
>
>     It might help, if I knew what software you were running
>on the server, and what you're using for an OS. Unix or some
>NT version?
>
>     I have done several big pix for login screens, ect., for
>quite a few sysops. Maybe I can get you some advice from someone
>who's having better luck with the same set-up.
>
>     Whatever the deal is, it would be nice to be able to post
>to usenet, through the service I pay for, here in the outback.
>I'm willing to wait for you to try to make this work, but these
>problems are constant, and paying more for a service that doesn't
>provide isn't what I signed up for, near four years back. The few
>years I've been hollerin' about it, logs and failed posts sent,
>should be enough to convince you that you have the problem. Let's
>see if we can't get it to working, hokay?
>
>     Holler when you know something, or I can do anything to help.
>
>
>Be good..... Johnny
>



From: Michael Tomas <ful...@fullnet.net>
To: Jonathon R. Oglesbee
Subject: Re: Failed posts

The filtering is setup and is working. Ensure you dont have any phrases
or
such in your asci art. The vendor already has gone through and the
filters
are setup correctly.




Michael Tomas
IT Manager
FullNet Communications
ful...@fullnet.net
(405)235-5688


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