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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 13 Mar 2005.
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ASCII Art Fart for Sat, 2005 Mar 12: #2088 NOT ENOUGH ROUGHA

ASCII Art Fart for Sat, 2005 Mar 12: #2088 NOT ENOUGH ROUGHAGE

alt.ascii-art · 9 messages · 13 Mar 2005 - 17 Mar 2005
Faux_Pseudo <Fau...@gmail.com> ASCII art 13 Mar 2005 06:41 · permalink · report
_.-In alt.ascii-art, Faux_Tran wrote the following -._
>  #2088 NOT ENOUGH ROUGHAGE

I have no idea why this is posting multipule times.
There is only one entery in crontab.
There is /no/ redundancy in the farts.sh.

At first I thought that maybe farts.sh was running from crontab at
0:10 and then ntp would run and reset the time to before 0:10 and
farts.sh would run again.  But ntp runs at 0:02 before farts.sh could
run.  So nothing makes sense.

My log says first one runs at 16 seconds after and the second and
third both run at 26 seconds after.

None of the other cron jobs are running more than once.
Anyone got any ideas?

OA:
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|          ______________                                             |
|       .-'              `-.                                          |
| OLD  <-------------------->    All space craft are required to      |
|       `------------------'     have a discernible front and back    |
| :F_P:          __________      to avoid ocular confusion about      |
|       ________/          \     which way a craft is traveling.      |
| NEW  (________    ====>   )                                         |
|           \\__\          /                                          |
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######################################Sat 5 Mar 2005#################

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  .-'))       fauxascii.com        ('-.  | It's a damn poor mind that
 ' ..-  .:" )               ( ":.  -.. ' | can only think of one way to
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In article <DgRYd.28068$Sn6.26449@lakeread03>, Faux_Pseudo wrote:
> My log says first one runs at 16 seconds after and the second and
> third both run at 26 seconds after.
> 
> None of the other cron jobs are running more than once.
> Anyone got any ideas?
>
       What's coming through on the posted messages are these timestamps:
> Message-ID: <UWPYd.27231$Sn6.12731@blah>
> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:10:12 GMT
> X-Trace: blah 1110690612 ipaddress (Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:10:12 EST)
>

> Message-ID: <YWPYd.27233$Sn6.25645@blah>
> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:10:16 GMT
> X-Trace: blah 1110690616 ipaddress (Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:10:16 EST)
>

> Message-ID: <YWPYd.27232$Sn6.21240@blah>
> Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 05:10:16 GMT
> X-Trace: blah 1110690616 ipaddress (Sun, 13 Mar 2005 00:10:16 EST)
>

       Presuming that your ntp is operating correctly, and at a different time 
to the posting script ... Hmmm. It's not strange that there's an offset between 
your clock and the posting machine (at my ISP? or at the host that propagates 
to my ISP? I don't know enough about NNTP to know. Or care.), but it is odd 
that the offset changes a lot between postings (10 seconds difference according 
to your logs, but only 4 seconds difference by the time it's propagated).
       There's a command for writing to log files from scripts, but it escapes 
my memory at the moment. And I don't have a unix box up on the network at the 
moment to ask it. 
       
-- 
Aidan Karley,
Geologist,
"You are in a maze of twisty little presentation styles, all [different | 
alike]."

BoD <Bo...@JRAF.org> 14 Mar 2005 17:02 · permalink · report
Faux_Pseudo wrote:
> At first I thought that maybe farts.sh was running from crontab at
> 0:10 and then ntp would run and reset the time to before 0:10 and
> farts.sh would run again.  But ntp runs at 0:02 before farts.sh could
> run.  So nothing makes sense.

At what time do they run (ntp and farts.sh)?

BoD

Faux_Pseudo <Fau...@gmail.com> ASCII art 14 Mar 2005 19:58 · permalink · report
_.-In alt.ascii-art, BoD wrote the following -._
> Faux_Pseudo wrote:
>> At first I thought that maybe farts.sh was running from crontab at
>> 0:10 and then ntp would run and reset the time to before 0:10 and
>> farts.sh would run again.  But ntp runs at 0:02 before farts.sh could
>> run.  So nothing makes sense.
>
> At what time do they run (ntp and farts.sh)?

ntp is at 02 after each hour and farts.sh is at 0:10 as stated above.
I have worked with ntp and cron for years and am very carefull to
avoid time resets that will cause an app to run a second time becaues
the system clock is runing fast/slow.  So I don't think ntp has
anything to do with this.  I am going to disable it tonight and see if
I get the same results.  Also going to run a few non-posting runs of
farts.sh to see if I can duplicate the error. 
OA:
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|        .---------.                                                  |
|       /__________ \                                                 |
|      //         //\\          Flying cars are banned for civilian   |
|     //         //  \\         use because of congestion and         |
|    // ___o_\__//__  \\        accident fears before they ever get   |
|   // (|_.-.__//_=_)  \\       off the ground.                       |
|   \\   /_/  //       //       Women drivers were not sited as a     |
|    \\      //       //        concern but human nature was.         |
|     \\    //       //:F_P:                                          |
|      \`--' `------'/                                                |
|_____________________________________________________________________|

######################################Sat 5 Mar 2005#################

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  .-'))       fauxascii.com        ('-.  | It's a damn poor mind that
 ' ..-  .:" )               ( ":.  -.. ' | can only think of one way to
  ((,,_;'.;'   UIN=66618055  ';. ';_,,)) | spell a word.
        ((_.YIM=Faux_Pseudo :._))        | - Andrew Jackson

BoD <Bo...@JRAF.org> 15 Mar 2005 19:48 · permalink · report
You really run ntp every hour?
Wow you are a man of [ludicrously unecessary] great precision...

:)

BoD

Yeti <yet...@atlas.cz> 16 Mar 2005 13:16 · permalink · report
Faux_Pseudo wrote:

> ntp is at 02 after each hour and farts.sh is at 0:10 as stated above.

Are you running ntpdate by cron?
If yes: why aren't you running ntpd?
If no: disregards this post ;)

Yeti
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On 2005-03-15, quoth BoD <Bo...@JRAF.org>:
> You really run ntp every hour?
> Wow you are a man of [ludicrously unecessary] great precision...
>
>:)
>
> BoD

Mine runs every 15 minutes, thanks to leafnode and crond.

-- 
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due to any inherent problem that exists in Windows itself.
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In article <slr...@laptop.harry.net>, Sinister Midget 
wrote:
> > You really run ntp every hour?
> > Wow you are a man of [ludicrously unecessary] great precision...
> >
> >:)
> >
> > BoD
> 
> Mine runs every 15 minutes, thanks to leafnode and crond.
>

       What is the average adjustment? And have you set up one of the 
clock-training programs?
       AIUI, the timestamps on usenet messages have a precision of 1 
second. So for news, there is little need to keep your clocks better 
synchronised to better than a half second.
       
-- 
Aidan Karley,
Geologist,
"You are in a maze of twisty little presentation styles, all [different 
| alike]."

BoD <Bo...@JRAF.org> 17 Mar 2005 17:23 · permalink · report
You should run it every second. You know just to be sure.
BoD

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