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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 19 Jan 2002.
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hints and tips for new jave user??

hints and tips for new jave user??

alt.ascii-art · 12 messages · 19 Jan 2002 - 6 Feb 2002
badstyle <spa...@spam.com> 19 Jan 2002 15:22 · permalink · report
Any hints n' tips for using jave??

thanks :)
..B..

Hi,

> Any hints n' tips for using jave??

Have you read the totorials? The first one is a good point to start:

1. The JavE-Balls-Tutorial:
  http://www.jave.de/docs/tutorial1/tutorial.html

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Other hints:
 - play around with all the menu commands and tools
 - stay tuned for new versions (e.g. because the next one will no longer
   be limited to rectangular selections!!!!)

and most of all:
 - have fun

Markus

PS: Don't forget to send me a note when you find a bug (not the 'bug'
who post great images to this newsgroup, but 'program bugs'!) or have an
idea for a cool feature or minor improvements
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J|a|v|E                           /|                   J|a|v|E
 /-\      Ascii-Art for eyeryone  / \   - for free!     /-\

"Markus Gebhard" <ukg...@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> skrev i meddelandet
news:3C4...@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de

>  - stay tuned for new versions (e.g. because the next one will no longer
>    be limited to rectangular selections!!!!)

YES! Finally! :D Actually, I don't know why I never requested this feature;
I've always wanted it. :)

-jg

"Joaquim G�ndara" wrote:
> 
> "Markus Gebhard" <ukg...@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> skrev i meddelandet
> news:3C4...@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
> 
> >  - stay tuned for new versions (e.g. because the next one will no longer
> >    be limited to rectangular selections!!!!)
> 
> YES! Finally! :D Actually, I don't know why I never requested this feature;
> I've always wanted it. :)

So did I :-) And that's why I finally implemented it. Most of it already
works - there are only a few bugs I have to fix (if I only had a little
more spare time for that all...). And at the moment you can only
add/remove rectangular regions from the selection (using shift and
ctrl-key as one is used from other applications). I will have to write a
tool for freehand selection in the future...

You want a preview? Here it is:
  http://www.jave.de/demo/selection.gif

Markus
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Marion Koslowski <MKo...@gmx.de> ASCII art 20 Jan 2002 08:00 · permalink · report
Kevan - Sat, 19 Jan 2002 19:38:01 -0600

>> - stay tuned for new versions (e.g. because the next one will no longer
>>   be limited to rectangular selections!!!!)
>You are well on your way to creating a photoshop for ascii, and I think it's
>great that you are doing it for free. Keep up the great work, and thanks!

What about layers? :)

   Picture:     Layer 1:
  +---------+  +----------+
  | D E K O |  | | [ | (  |
  +---------+  +----------+
                Layer 2:
               +----------+
               |  ) - <  )|
               +----------+

Ma�ion

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bug <bug...@akw.pl> 20 Jan 2002 09:36 · permalink · report
U�ytkownik "Markus Gebhard" <ukg...@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> napisa� w wiadomo�ci
news:3C4...@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de...

Hey.

[...]

>  - stay tuned for new versions (e.g. because the next one will no longer
>    be limited to rectangular selections!!!!)

WOW! I'm impressed... will there be circular selections or
something similar?

[...]

> PS: Don't forget to send me a note when you find a bug (not the 'bug'
> who post great images to this newsgroup, but 'program bugs'!) or have an
> idea for a cool feature or minor improvements

He, he... thanks. :)



Best regards/Pozdrowienia,

Blazej [bug]
-- 
Blazej Kozlowski [bug] - "Chodzi mi o to, aby jezyk gietki
bug...@akw.pl GG:1093730 -  Powiedzial wszystko, co pomysli
+48608093718\online @/ -  glowa."
ICQ:147041942\w-ends/  -                 /Juliusz Slowacki

Marion Koslowski wrote:
> 
[...]
> What about layers? :)
> 
>    Picture:     Layer 1:
>   +---------+  +----------+
>   | D E K O |  | | [ | (  |
>   +---------+  +----------+
>                 Layer 2:
>                +----------+
>                |  ) - <  )|
>                +----------+
> 
I know there are many people waiting for layers. But it is very hard
work (I would have to change almost everything) and I think not many
people will use them in the end.
My spare time is limited and so I rather concentrate on things where I
know that I can fish them and lots of people will like them. Also I want
to write features that are fun writing them :-)
At the moment it is the enhanced selection tool and better results for
line art.

But I will put your example to my list of ideas and maybe someday...

Markus
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J|a|v|E                           /|                   J|a|v|E
 /-\      Ascii-Art for eyeryone  / \   - for free!     /-\

bug wrote:

> [...]
> 
> >  - stay tuned for new versions (e.g. because the next one will no longer
> >    be limited to rectangular selections!!!!)
> 
> WOW! I'm impressed... will there be circular selections or
> something similar?

There will be the possibility to remove/add rectangular regions from/to
the selection (- it already works quite fine in my developer version, so
it will be part of the next release).
I am also thinking about a freehand selection tool. But I don't think I
will support circular selection, for to me it seems to be quite fussy to
select a circular region in ascii. To what I have tested the rectangular
selection tool already works fine and along with a freehand selection it
should be ok.

Markus
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 \-/         http://www.jave.de    O_< Get JavE now!    \-/
J|a|v|E                           /|                   J|a|v|E
 /-\      Ascii-Art for eyeryone  / \   - for free!     /-\

> I know there are many people waiting for layers. But it is very hard
> work (I would have to change almost everything) and I think not many
> people will use them in the end.

I concur with you on that point.
Your work is better spent elsewhere.

> At the moment it is the enhanced selection tool and better results for
> line art.

I personally can't see what the big fuss is about with the enhanced selection
tool , but still welcome it - I'm am really looking forward to better line art
though.

> But I will put your example to my list of ideas and maybe someday...

A rather long list by now.
Color would still be nice , be again ... your work may be better spent elsewhere

bug <bug...@akw.pl> 20 Jan 2002 22:29 · permalink · report
U�ytkownik "Markus Gebhard" <ukg...@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> napisa� w wiadomo�ci
news:3C4...@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de...

Hey.

> > WOW! I'm impressed... will there be circular selections or
> > something similar?
>
> There will be the possibility to remove/add rectangular regions from/to
> the selection (- it already works quite fine in my developer version, so
> it will be part of the next release).
> I am also thinking about a freehand selection tool. But I don't think I
> will support circular selection, for to me it seems to be quite fussy to
> select a circular region in ascii. To what I have tested the rectangular
> selection tool already works fine and along with a freehand selection it
> should be ok.

Yeah, you're propably right. I asked cause simply I
admire people who can do something more than just
open notepad and write letters... I have all ver-
sions of jave, but never used them... :) I just have
to have them, not to use, but to have. :)
              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Does this sentence have any sense in Ehglish?



Best regards/Pozdrowienia,

Blazej [bug]
-- 
Blazej Kozlowski [bug] - "Klase czlowieka mozna zmierzyc
bug...@akw.pl GG:1093730 -  tym, co go wyprowadza z rownowagi."
+48608093718\online @/ -
ICQ:147041942\w-ends/  -                     /Aleksander Pope

Marion Koslowski <MKo...@gmx.de> ASCII art 20 Jan 2002 22:51 · permalink · report
Markus Gebhard - Sun, 20 Jan 2002 19:37:38 +0100

>[...]
>> What about layers? :)
>I know there are many people waiting for layers. But it is very hard
>work (I would have to change almost everything) and I think not many
>people will use them in the end.

*Oups!* I meant it as a joke and didn't think it could be possible... ;)

Do whatever you want/like/can in programming JavE - I liked every new
feature yet. :)

Ma�ion

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/__________________________________________________\ kOs

Johannes 'Joey' R�ssel <Joh...@web.de> ASCII art 6 Feb 2002 02:08 · permalink · report
Hi Markus

> PS: Don't forget to send me a note when you find a bug (not the 'bug'
> who post great images to this newsgroup, but 'program bugs'!) or have an
> idea for a cool feature or minor improvements

"I take thee at thy word!" (Shakespeare)

Cool features actually missing:
 - layer support with layer and blending effects (eg. Layer shadows or glow;
additive and multiply blending, etc.)
 - filters, effects, etc. (Not only Antialias, maybe a gaussian Blur, some
distortions)
 - plugin support for filters, effects, etc.
 ...
 - and a 'Convert to ASCII' item in context menu on images

Joey ;)

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