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In article<8lf0k3$d50$3...@news.lep.lg.ua>, tor...@mail.ru writes:
>  ��������� ������������ ��� ������������
>                ��������� ������ "����-5�", 
>             �� �������� �������� � ������� !!! 


 I can't understand this shit (even in ER-Kurier font).

 Try English, or German.



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"Dave Bird" <dav...@xemu.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:Hzn...@xemu.demon.co.uk...
> In article<8lf0k3$d50$3...@news.lep.lg.ua>, tor...@mail.ru writes:
> >  ��������� ������������ ��� ������������
> >                ��������� ������ "����-5�",
> >             �� �������� �������� � ������� !!!

>  I can't understand this shit (even in ER-Kurier font).

You have to encode it Cyrillic (KOI8-R).  Then it says:

Pryedlagayu oborudovaniye dlya izgotovlyeniya
             tsyerkovnykh svyechyei "OCPTs-5M",
         nye imyeyushchyego analogov v Ukrainye !!!

But don't ask me what that means.  I gave my Russian dictionary to my
last boss when I left the job.

>  Try English, or German.

Jawohl, mein Herr!


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"Ool" <ulr...@t-online.de> wrote in message news:8lg7lq$774$14$1...@news.t-online.com...

>              tsyerkovnykh svyechyei "OCPTs-5M",
                                        ^
That's supposed to be an "S!"  I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW I SAW THAT IN
TIME AND I CORRECTED IT!  WHY'D THE E-MAIL PROGRAM SEND IT THIS WAY
THEN?

ARRGH!

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In article<8lg7lq$774$14$1...@news.t-online.com>, Ool
<ulr...@t-online.de> writes:
>"Dave Bird" <dav...@xemu.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:HznjZYDHQ0e5Ewu8@xemu.
>demon.co.uk...
>> In article<8lf0k3$d50$3...@news.lep.lg.ua>, tor...@mail.ru writes:
>> >  ��������� ������������ ��� ������������
>> >                ��������� ������ "����-5�",
>> >             �� �������� �������� � ������� !!!
>
>>  I can't understand this shit (even in ER-Kurier font).
>
>You have to encode it Cyrillic (KOI8-R).  Then it says:
>
>Pryedlagayu oborudovaniye dlya izgotovlyeniya
>             tsyerkovnykh svyechyei "OCPTs-5M",
>         nye imyeyushchyego analogov v Ukrainye !!!

 OK, I musta done something wrong before, it sure 
 does say Pryedlagayu and so forth. I was reading 
 it as REALLY mindboggling sequences of consonants before....
>
>But don't ask me what that means. 

 No, nor me :-(  .  Probably how to make a cable-TV 
 descrambler out of wet ropes and paper-clips, in Russian :-( :-( :-( 


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In article<8ligff$n4q$10$1...@news.t-online.com>, Ool
<ulr...@t-online.de> writes:
>"Dave Bird" <dav...@xemu.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>
>>  OK, I musta done something wrong before, it sure
>>  does say Pryedlagayu and so forth. I was reading
>>  it as REALLY mindboggling sequences of consonants before....
>
>Well, the original article didn't contain any information on which
>charset to use.  In the absense of that American and Western European
>programs choose ascii and its extension iso-8859-1.

 Well, Windoze95 contains fonts which will render chars >= 128
 as cyrillic,  Specifically 
    ER Bukinist KOI-8, and
    ER Kurier   KOI-8  fonts.  
 On my newsreader just use Options|Fonts to set one of these fonts.


 Outhouse Distress is a heap of crap & I'm not sure it can change font.


 

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Ool wrote:
> ...
> Does anyone know, though, how to get Outlook Express (5.0) to declare
> a different charset than those two in it's header?  Because I told it
> that my last post in the thread is supposed to be Cyrillic, and it
> displayed it Cyrillic, it had no charset information while still in
> the outbox, yet when on the board it still had the good old "Content-
> Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1" in its header.

Yes, Outlook lets you do it - in a message preparation window,
before sending, you MUST tell OE that it's Cyrillic and not Western:
  Format/Encoding/Cyrillic(KOI8-R)

Then your text will be sent with correct system header
 Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R" 

By the way, one should *not* use in Outlook Express
(or Netscape 4+ or Internet Explorer) those old, made for Windows 3.1
KOI8-R fonts mentioned here (BTW, they are NOT a part of Windows 95) -
first, there is NO need to use them (Outlook Express reads and sends
Cyrillic perfectly while using standard Windows fonts such as
"Arial"),
and second, the Cyrillic message sent having Western in 'charset='
is bad and will not be readable in many, many cases. Cyrillic message
should announce itself as Cyrillic (as was shown above).

Detailed information regarding Windows, fonts, and Cyrillic can
be found on my site
"Cyrillic (Russian): instructions for Windows and Internet":
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/PaulGor/

where fonts (including those old ones - some programs do need them)
are discussed in Chapter 1 of my browser-related section.


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"Dave Bird" <dav...@xemu.demon.co.uk> wrote in message

>  OK, I musta done something wrong before, it sure
>  does say Pryedlagayu and so forth. I was reading
>  it as REALLY mindboggling sequences of consonants before....

Well, the original article didn't contain any information on which
charset to use.  In the absense of that American and Western European
programs choose ascii and its extension iso-8859-1.

Does anyone know, though, how to get Outlook Express (5.0) to declare
a different charset than those two in it's header?  Because I told it
that my last post in the thread is supposed to be Cyrillic, and it
displayed it Cyrillic, it had no charset information while still in
the outbox, yet when on the board it still had the good old "Content-
Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1" in its header.

Of course I'm not interested in Cyrillic a lot.  But being able to en-
code one's posts Unicode might be useful occasionally.



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