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Original Usenet thread from alt.ascii-art, started 3 Oct 2001.
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First 3d .sig...?

First 3d .sig...?

alt.ascii-art · 24 messages · 3 Oct 2001 - 21 Nov 2001
In some various searches of SIRDS FAQs, I seem to be credited with the
first 3D .sig file...  Does this, like, make me famous or something in
Internet lore?  I hope so... :)

For those who don't remember.....

_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~
!   Adam      Adam      Adam      Adam      Adam      Adam   ! "Lawn       !
!Spragg   Spragg   Spragg   Spragg   Spragg   Spragg  Spragg !   service!" !
!   Adam      Adam      Adam      Adam      Adam      Adam   !       -Stup !
!Spragg   Spragg   Spragg   Spragg   Spragg  Spragg   Spragg !             !
!   Adam      Adam      Adam      Adam      Adam      Adam   !  atspragg@  !
!Spragg   Spragg   Spragg   Spragg   Spragg   Spragg   Spragg! ucdavis.edu !
!   Adam      Adam      Adam      Adam      Adam      Adam   !   GO AGS!   !
_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~-_-~

Adam

Bateau <Its...@Not-A-Real-Address.com> ASCII art 3 Oct 2001 08:15 · permalink · report
hola Adam Spragg, soy una robusteza!
>In some various searches of SIRDS FAQs, I seem to be credited with the
>first 3D .sig file...  Does this, like, make me famous or something in
>Internet lore?  I hope so... :)
>
>For those who don't remember.....

Here's some stuff I did ages ago.
It's not a proper stereogram because the "low" parts don't match up at
all rather than being displaced but that seems to make it easier to
see in ASCII.

"STAR TREK" and Star Fleet logo.

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-- 
|    _             .\ ~~   _       ^~
|   <')_,/    ,  ;  .\   >(')__,  . ` '  ,  ,______________._     *BANG*
|   (_~=/   \._`.'.  .\   (_~_/         _,  '------:_______  ;==( *BANG*
|    ='-     \=~_) ;  .\ ~^~~^~   ` (_~_/            | | `-\ \    *BANG*
|             -'=      .\    ~^~    ~^~~^~           `~'    \_;
ICQ:11367619 EMAIL:bateau:-)jupiter-io.net WEB:http://tyrian2000.cjb.net

David Palmer <dav...@ntlworld.comNOSPAM> ASCII art 5 Oct 2001 08:30 · permalink · report
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You mean you can see STAR TREK and Star Fleet logo in this? How?
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      |  #  \__|   /   http://homepage.ntlworld.com/palmer666    \    \ __ /   |
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      |  .'   `. / ASCII ART, it's not a hobby, it's an obsession! \ /      \  |
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Bateau <Its...@Not-A-Real-Address.com> ASCII art 5 Oct 2001 15:10 · permalink · report
hola David Palmer, soy una robusteza!
>
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>
>
>You mean you can see STAR TREK and Star Fleet logo in this? How?

Magic.
-- 
|    _             .\ ~~   _       ^~
|   <')_,/    ,  ;  .\   >(')__,  . ` '  ,  ,______________._     *BANG*
|   (_~=/   \._`.'.  .\   (_~_/         _,  '------:_______  ;==( *BANG*
|    ='-     \=~_) ;  .\ ~^~~^~   ` (_~_/            | | `-\ \    *BANG*
|             -'=      .\    ~^~    ~^~~^~           `~'    \_;
ICQ:11367619 EMAIL:bateau:-)jupiter-io.net WEB:http://tyrian2000.cjb.net

bug <bug...@akw.pl> 5 Oct 2001 17:18 · permalink · report
It was a beautiful day/night Fri, 5 Oct 2001 09:30:21 +0100, when "David
Palmer" <dav...@ntlworld.comNOSPAM> wrote in alt.ascii-art
that: 

>You mean you can see STAR TREK and Star Fleet logo in this? How?

Propably it is stereogram. Stereograms are pictures that imitate the 3rd
dimension in pictures. There is a special way to look at those pictures.

bug
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Rander <ldN...@rander.dk> 5 Oct 2001 20:17 · permalink · report
Fri, 5 Oct 2001 09:30:21 +0100 brugte David Palmer 51 linier p� at fort�lle
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>You mean you can see STAR TREK and Star Fleet logo in this? How?

I can't see it either... Anyway, it is a stereogram. focus at the center of
the picture for 30 seconds or so. Then defocus, still looking at the
middle, but as if you are trying to see something further away...

It's not as easy as it sounds, but sometimes he result is astonishing.

-- 
Lars Rander, www.rander.dk  ICQ#: 987520  ** Pil ikke ved min adresse **
Sjathelt og beskytter af det svage k�n (udn�vnt af diktator SEJ 5/6-99)

At v�re journalist er ligesom at v�re gift med en nymfoman.
Sjovt de f�rste to uger. (Lewis Grizzard)

Lennert Stock <l...@gate99.nl> ASCII art 5 Oct 2001 20:24 · permalink · report
Here are some of my (very old) 3d sigs (drawn, not generated).
How to view: either cross your eyes, or get very close to the screen,
so that each eye is focusing on a different image. Try to merge the
separate images into one, and you should get a 3-D effect.
The last one ('sunburst') has 8 layers!

          _        _        _        _        _        _        _
      O=='     O=='_    O=='__   O==' __  O=='  __ O=='   __O=='
      H/\"\    H /\ \   H  /\ \  H   /\ \ H    /\ \H     /\ H
      H::\ \   H/::\ \  H /::\ \ H  /::\ \H   /::\ H    /::\H\
     /HLS:\_\  H:LS:\_\ H/:LS:\_\H /:LS:\_H  /:LS:\H\  /:LS:H_\
     \H:::/ /  H::::/ / H\::::/ /H \::::/ H  \::::/H/  \::::H /
      H::/ /   H\::/ /  H \::/ / H  \::/ /H   \::/ H    \::/H/
      H\/_/    H \/_/   H  \/_/  H   \/_/ H    \/_/H     \/_H
    3DH        H3D      H   3D   H      3DH        H3D      H   3D
   """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
                    Lennert Stock - l...@gate99.nl

  ________________________________________________________________________
         /\       /\       /\       /\       /\       /\       /\       /
  \ 3D  /__\   3D/ _\     3D \_    / 3D__   /  \3D_  /  \  3D /  \   _3D
   \   //\ \\   / /\ \   /  /\\\  /   /\ \ /    \\ \/    \/\ /    \ /\/\
  \ \ //::\ \\ / /::\ \ /  /::\\\/   /::\ /    /:\\/\    /\:/ \    \:/\ \
  _\ \/:LS:\_\\ /:LS:\_\  /:LS:\\\  /:LS:\_\  /:LS\\_\  /:LS:\_\  /:LS:\_\
   / /\::::/ // \::::/ /  \::::///  \::::/ /  \:::// /  \::/:/ /  \:/::/ /
  / / \\::/ // \ \::/ / \  \::///\   \::/ \    \://\/    \/:\ /    /:\/ /
   /   \\/_//   \ \/_/   \  \///  \   \/_/ \    //_/\    /\/_\    / \/\/
  / SIG \  /   SIG  /     SIG/     \ SIG    \  /SIG  \  /  SIG\  /    SIG
  _______\/_______\/_______\/_______\/_______\/_______\/_______\/_______\_

                      Lennert Stock - l...@gate99.nl


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 |""3D"""""X"""""3D"""""X"""""3D"""""X"""""3D"""""X"""""3D"""""X"""""3D""|
 |["""""""""]X["""""""""]X["""""""""]X["""""""""]X["""""""""]X["""""""""]|
 |"XXX""SIG"""XXX""SIG"""XXX""SIG"""XXX""SIG"""XXX""SIG"""XXX""SIG"""XXX"|
 |""""XXX"""""""XXX"""""""XXX"""""""XXX"""""""XXX"""""""XXX"""""""XXX""""|
 |X["LS"]XXX["LS"]XXX["LS"]XXX["LS"]XXX["LS"]XXX["LS"]XXX["LS"]XXX["LS"]X|
 |"XXXXX"""XXXXX"""XXXXX"""XXXXX"""XXXXX"""XXXXX"""XXXXX"""XXXXX"""XXXXX"|
 |XXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXX|

Lennert Stock <l...@gate99.nl> writes:

> Here are some of my (very old) 3d sigs (drawn, not generated).
>
>  |"""""""i"""""""""""""i"""""""""""""i"""""""""""""i"""""""""""""i"""""""|
>  |""3D"""""X"""""3D"""""X"""""3D"""""X"""""3D"""""X"""""3D"""""X"""""3D""|
>  |["""""""""]X["""""""""]X["""""""""]X["""""""""]X["""""""""]X["""""""""]|
>  |"XXX""SIG"""XXX""SIG"""XXX""SIG"""XXX""SIG"""XXX""SIG"""XXX""SIG"""XXX"|
>  |""""XXX"""""""XXX"""""""XXX"""""""XXX"""""""XXX"""""""XXX"""""""XXX""""|
>  |X["LS"]XXX["LS"]XXX["LS"]XXX["LS"]XXX["LS"]XXX["LS"]XXX["LS"]XXX["LS"]X|
>  |"XXXXX"""XXXXX"""XXXXX"""XXXXX"""XXXXX"""XXXXX"""XXXXX"""XXXXX"""XXXXX"|
>  |XXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXX|

Wow!


--
Neil Franklin, nei...@franklin.ch.remove http://neil.franklin.ch/
Hacker, Unix Guru, El Eng HTL/BSc, Sysadmin, Archer, Roleplayer
- Intellectual Property is Intellectual Robbery

>"STAR TREK" and Star Fleet logo.
>
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usually i am a fast stereogram-watcher.. due to my 2 eye surgeries i
can cross my eyes easily ..as well as move them away from each other
(wich is the usual way to look at a stereogram) ...but altho i see the
pattern as a surface it's hella hard to make out the picture in this
one... might be so hard because of the low resolution you get with
ascii (and therefore few depth iterations while the steps are quite
"deep")

> |"""""""i"""""""""""""i"""""""""""""i"""""""""""""i"""""""""""""i"""""""|
> |""3D"""""X"""""3D"""""X"""""3D"""""X"""""3D"""""X"""""3D"""""X"""""3D""|
> |["""""""""]X["""""""""]X["""""""""]X["""""""""]X["""""""""]X["""""""""]|
> |"XXX""SIG"""XXX""SIG"""XXX""SIG"""XXX""SIG"""XXX""SIG"""XXX""SIG"""XXX"|
> |""""XXX"""""""XXX"""""""XXX"""""""XXX"""""""XXX"""""""XXX"""""""XXX""""|
> |X["LS"]XXX["LS"]XXX["LS"]XXX["LS"]XXX["LS"]XXX["LS"]XXX["LS"]XXX["LS"]X|
> |"XXXXX"""XXXXX"""XXXXX"""XXXXX"""XXXXX"""XXXXX"""XXXXX"""XXXXX"""XXXXX"|
> |XXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXXXX""XXX|

this one is without a doubt the best ascii-stereogram i have ever
seen. simple idea but still amazing.

in fact it's the first stereogram i have seen making use of a "reverse
perspective" in the 2d image to simulate a horizontal surface in the
3d image. great job!

> I can't see it either... Anyway, it is a stereogram. focus at the center
of
> the picture for 30 seconds or so. Then defocus, still looking at the
> middle, but as if you are trying to see something further away...
>
> It's not as easy as it sounds, but sometimes he result is astonishing.

For someone how can't, and never have been able to, see it , the result is
annoying .. a totals blur and keeps giving me a headache.

I HATE stereograms !
Same deal with specially coloured diagram and images made of dots that
colourblind people cant see .. HATE them .. they remind me that everyone
around me seems to have a skill i dont have.

I wish people would stop posting them.

> --
> Lars Rander, www.rander.dk  ICQ#: 987520  ** Pil ikke ved min adresse **
> Sjathelt og beskytter af det svage k�n (udn�vnt af diktator SEJ 5/6-99)

Aha en af sjatterne fra dk.snak !
Selv beg�r jeg mig lidt i undergruppen dk.snak.seksualitet

> At v�re journalist er ligesom at v�re gift med en nymfoman.
> Sjovt de f�rste to uger. (Lewis Grizzard)

Er det ikke lidt forn�rmende mod os nymfomaner ?

Bateau <Its...@Not-A-Real-Address.com> ASCII art 6 Oct 2001 05:10 · permalink · report
hola Rander, soy una robusteza!
>Fri, 5 Oct 2001 09:30:21 +0100 brugte David Palmer 51 linier p� at fort�lle
>dette til alt.ascii-art:
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>>You mean you can see STAR TREK and Star Fleet logo in this? How?
>
>I can't see it either... Anyway, it is a stereogram. focus at the center of
>the picture for 30 seconds or so. Then defocus, still looking at the
>middle, but as if you are trying to see something further away...
>
>It's not as easy as it sounds, but sometimes he result is astonishing.

Just let your eyes drift apart like you're looking at something far
away until the Xs and Vs are lined up.
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On Sat, 6 Oct 2001 03:43:39 +0200, "CeeJay" <new...@ceejay.cjb.nOt> tried to
confuse everyone with this message:

>> I can't see it either... Anyway, it is a stereogram. focus at the center
>of
>> the picture for 30 seconds or so. Then defocus, still looking at the
>> middle, but as if you are trying to see something further away...
>>
>> It's not as easy as it sounds, but sometimes he result is astonishing.
>
>For someone how can't, and never have been able to, see it , the result is
>annoying .. a totals blur and keeps giving me a headache.
>
>I HATE stereograms !
>Same deal with specially coloured diagram and images made of dots that
>colourblind people cant see .. HATE them .. they remind me that everyone
>around me seems to have a skill i dont have.

Me too. My eyes ache after this...
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Lennert Stock <l...@gate99.nl> ASCII art 7 Oct 2001 06:00 · permalink · report
On Sat, 6 Oct 2001 03:43:39 +0200, "CeeJay" <new...@ceejay.cjb.nOt> wrote:

>For someone how can't, and never have been able to, see it , the result is
>annoying .. a totals blur and keeps giving me a headache.
>
>I HATE stereograms !
>Same deal with specially coloured diagram and images made of dots that
>colourblind people cant see .. HATE them .. they remind me that everyone
>around me seems to have a skill i dont have.

I don't mean to nag you ;) but you're half the fun of it. Them stereogram
postcards always remind me of the people who fail to see the magic, and are
almost ready to headbutt a wall to see if that's more rewarding.

My personal favourite in ascii generated stereograms is this one (I promise,
I won't post more). As stereograms go, this one should be not very hard.

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On Sat, 06 Oct 2001 00:41:43 +0200, "lastfuture (Peter Marquardt)" <las...@lastfuture.de> wrote:

>usually i am a fast stereogram-watcher.. due to my 2 eye surgeries i
>can cross my eyes easily ..as well as move them away from each other
>(wich is the usual way to look at a stereogram) ...but altho i see the
>pattern as a surface it's hella hard to make out the picture in this
>one... might be so hard because of the low resolution you get with
>ascii (and therefore few depth iterations while the steps are quite
>"deep")

I use the 'look at the wall' (or the back of the monitor) method. I get
some 3d focus here when I move a bit away from the screen instead of towards
it, as ascii stereograms usually go. I'm not very good at those (where I have
to move away) though, and I don't make anything out and loose focus soon. It's
been a very long time since I fiddled around with stereogram generation software,
but if the artist used something similar, it probably implies he tried to
put a too large image with too much detail into it, which means less
repetitions, hence much harder to see.

On Sun, 07 Oct 2001 06:27:32 GMT, Lennert Stock <l...@gate99.nl> wrote:

>It's
>been a very long time since I fiddled around with stereogram generation software,
>but if the artist used something similar, it probably implies he tried to
>put a too large image with too much detail into it, which means less
>repetitions, hence much harder to see.

Hmm this might not be entirely correct, but I'm close I think. Any
corrections?

"CeeJay" <new...@ceejay.cjb.nOt> wrote in message
news:3bbe61c7$0$51422$edf...@dspool01.news.tele.dk...

> For someone how can't, and never have been able to, see it , the result is
> annoying .. a totals blur and keeps giving me a headache.
>
> I HATE stereograms !
> Same deal with specially coloured diagram and images made of dots that
> colourblind people cant see .. HATE them .. they remind me that everyone
> around me seems to have a skill i dont have.
>
> I wish people would stop posting them.

If it is any consolation, I can never see them either. :)

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Bateau <Its...@Not-A-Real-Address.com> ASCII art 9 Oct 2001 06:47 · permalink · report
hola anonyme, soy una robusteza!
>On Wed, 03 Oct 2001 16:15:08 +0800 Bateau
><Its...@Not-A-Real-Address.com> wrote from alt.ascii-art:
>>hola Adam Spragg, soy una robusteza!
>>>In some various searches of SIRDS FAQs, I seem to be credited with the
>>>first 3D .sig file...  Does this, like, make me famous or something in
>>>Internet lore?  I hope so... :)
>>>
>>>For those who don't remember.....
>>
>>Here's some stuff I did ages ago.
>>It's not a proper stereogram because the "low" parts don't match up at
>>all rather than being displaced but that seems to make it easier to
>>see in ASCII.
>>
>>"STAR TREK" and Star Fleet logo.
>
>Bateau. If I wanted to reach you in email how would I go about doing
>that? My email addy is good.

It's in my sig. Give it an @.
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On Fri, 05 Oct 2001 22:17:08 +0200, Rander <ldN...@rander.dk> wrote:

>
>
>I can't see it either... Anyway, it is a stereogram. focus at the center of
>the picture for 30 seconds or so. Then defocus, still looking at the
>middle, but as if you are trying to see something further away...
>
>It's not as easy as it sounds, but sometimes he result is astonishing.

I can't see that one at all.. Are the alignment marks in the correct place?

If you use the cross your eyes method, you'll get the depth effect reversed ..
high places are low and vice versa..

Just defocus your eyes and move back and forth until the alignment marks (if
any) merge into one.. If there are no marks, you'll just have to find a spot
where something pops out of the image.

If your eyes aren't identical enough it's very hard or impossible to see
them.. :-(
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> Just defocus your eyes and move back and forth until the alignment marks
(if
> any) merge into one.. If there are no marks, you'll just have to find a
spot
> where something pops out of the image.
>
> If your eyes aren't identical enough it's very hard or impossible to see
> them.. :-(

Maybe that why I can't see anything .. My eyes are'nt identical and besides
even if they were, I still see things differently than others because I have
color-abnormal vision ( I'm slighty red-green colourblind ) , and thus I'm
more aware of changes in textures and light (I see in the dark .. PH34R M3
;) ) .. than colour-normals ( Though they percieve colours better )

- CeeJay

"CeeJay" <new...@ceejay.cjb.nOt> wrote:

>> Just defocus your eyes and move back and forth until the alignment marks
>(if
>> any) merge into one.. If there are no marks, you'll just have to find a
>spot
>> where something pops out of the image.
>>
>> If your eyes aren't identical enough it's very hard or impossible to see
>> them.. :-(
>
>Maybe that why I can't see anything .. My eyes are'nt identical and besides
>even if they were, I still see things differently than others because I have
>color-abnormal vision ( I'm slighty red-green colourblind ) , and thus I'm
>more aware of changes in textures and light (I see in the dark .. PH34R M3
>;) ) .. than colour-normals ( Though they percieve colours better )

People with astigmatism are known to have difficulty seeing random dot
stereograms (which is what these types of ascii art emulate).

-- 
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Curiosity *may* have killed Schr�dinger's cat.

> People with astigmatism are known to have difficulty seeing random dot
> stereograms (which is what these types of ascii art emulate).

Yes exactly ..
Stereograms should be outlawed because they belittle and tease the
cromaticly challenged !

Lennert Stock <l...@gate99.nl> ASCII art 23 Oct 2001 12:01 · permalink · report
On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 01:27:02 +0200, "CeeJay" <new...@ceejay.cjb.nOt> wrote:

>> Just defocus your eyes and move back and forth until the alignment marks
>(if
>> any) merge into one.. If there are no marks, you'll just have to find a
>spot
>> where something pops out of the image.
>>
>> If your eyes aren't identical enough it's very hard or impossible to see
>> them.. :-(
>
>Maybe that why I can't see anything .. My eyes are'nt identical and besides
>even if they were, I still see things differently than others because I have
>color-abnormal vision ( I'm slighty red-green colourblind ) , and thus I'm
>more aware of changes in textures and light (I see in the dark .. PH34R M3
>;) ) .. than colour-normals ( Though they percieve colours better )

Whoo, whoo, seeing in the dark. That's an even better ability.
You're the only one who can figure out this one:

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Veronica Karlsson <asc...@hotmail.com> ASCII art 21 Nov 2001 11:05 · permalink · report
CeeJay wrote:
> 
> > I can't see it either... Anyway, it is a stereogram. focus at the center of
> > the picture for 30 seconds or so. Then defocus, still looking at the
> > middle, but as if you are trying to see something further away...
> >
> > It's not as easy as it sounds, but sometimes he result is astonishing.
> 
> For someone how can't, and never have been able to, see it , the result is
> annoying .. a totals blur and keeps giving me a headache.
> 
> I HATE stereograms !
> Same deal with specially coloured diagram and images made of dots that
> colourblind people cant see .. HATE them .. they remind me that everyone
> around me seems to have a skill i dont have.
> 
> I wish people would stop posting them.

I usually have no trouble seeing them, and a person I know usually can't
see them at all. We went to a museum, where they had HUGE stereogram
pictures on the walls. He could see them very easily and I just could
not see them at all!

[He thought it was because he was nearsighted, but that can't be it,
because my mother is extremely nearsighted and she can easily see them,
and "flip them inside-out" just by re-focusing her eyes!]

http://www.ludd.luth.se/~vk/pics/ascii/junkyard/creative/3D/

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