Re: Art, math, realism, ascii (Re: PARASITES INSIDE OF VIRUSES?)

Ian Broverman (ia...@venus.engr.ucdavis.edu) wrote:
: In article <Col...@equinox.gen.nz> Col...@equinox.gen.nz (Colin Douthwaite) writes:
: >Ludwig Plutonium (Lud...@dartmouth.edu) wrote:
: >
: >
: >> The highest resolution photograph of a beautiful female face 
: >> excels the Mona Lisa.
: >
: >Not true. 
:  ^^^^^^^^^
:  That's pretty subjective.  Ludwig can like whatever he wants to like :-)


> Mathematics is a part of nature.  I think that art has been 
> competing with nature since day one.  

> I agree that mathematics will not overtake art.  It, like every 
> other medium that a creative person can get their hands on, is 
> becoming art.  


Perhaps definitions of art and mathematics could be useful ?


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                The Westminster Dictionary:



ART n.  employment of means and methods to do a thing well ; applied 
especially to industries depending on taste.

ARTFUL a.  made with art ; exhibiting art or skill ; cunning

MATHEMATICS n.  the science that treats of quantity.

MATHEMATICAL a.  pertaining to mathematics ; rigorously precise.



Ludwig Plutonium > Show Smoot trying to measure the parameters of 
                 > a virus using a meter stick.  

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Now it would be difficult to class the above activity as either 
mathematical ( rigorously precise ) or artful ( exhibiting art or 
sklll ). Here I think Ludwig was pointing out how certain things 
cannot be successfully measured with the tools of mathematics -and 
that is contrary to his MathArt Theories.  

I suggest that the above definitions would indicate that mathematics 
cannot be closely allied to art which has little to do with rigorous 
precision or quantity.  However, I guess you could say that 
Mathematics is  " employment of means and methods to do a thing well ",
but Art could hardly be described as " the science that treats of 
quantity ".

Hmmm...


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