Re: ASCII Art Fart for Thu, 2004 Nov 25
ABCGi wrote: > Sharky wrote: > >> In <1go34nb.t2y6c714sn8hsN%email@DELETE_THIS.luddite.no-ip.com>, Simon >> Williams wrote: >> >>> Sharky <sha...@hellsgates.cor> wrote: >>> >>>> "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are >>>> neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make >>>> things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they >>>> serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed >>>> man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." >>>> - Cesare Beccaria >>> >>> >>> Compare US murder stats to those of countries like Canada and the UK. >>> This argument sounds logical, but I don't believe the facts support it. >> >> >> The facts are that all the unjustified homicides committed in the USA are >> committed in violation of some law. More importantly, the vast >> majority of >> these unjustified homicides are committed by people who are in possession >> of arms that have been attained illegally and committed against unarmed, >> law abiding citizens. You can compare the "murder" rate in the USA with >> places that doctor their statistics all you want, the meat is in the >> overall death rate of a country's citizens - you might want to dig a >> little >> deeper on that topic. > > > Sharky I doubt this is true, do you have some stats? Death by guns in > the USA by *far* outstrips any other country any way you slice it - was > my impression of the stats. > Oh I c, you are using the term "unjustified homicides" - which means self-defence doesn't count. Still, the proliferation of guns in the US and the attitude toward them can hardly be said to make the US a safer place to live given to the enormous number of gun deaths? -- ABCGi - Atomic ______________________ <===> Bacterial Genetic |---------------------|| Chemical Infantrymen <=========== http://abcgi.fly.to =-+-=> |---------------------|'
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