Re: Questions About Artistic Styles

On Mon, 06 Nov 2000 21:08:00 +0000, sara wallen
<sar...@PLEASEREMOVETOREPLYwallen.as> wrote:

>,-- ray...@number.net remarked: ---
>|
>| Much of your work is two-dimensional - like ancient Egyptian works.
>| The is a more sophisticated trend toward 3rd dimension with
>| perspective.
>| 
>| Much of your work is a striving for formal realism - that is, you try
>| to make a pic of an object that looks like the object. But there also
>| are works that are more abstract and impressionistic.
>'---
>
>It's quite hard to be abstract without losing sight of what you're
>trying to do. I think Valery S-v (post somewhere below/above) does some
>excellent looking asciis which aren't trying to look realistic...
>
>.---
>| Somewhere in all this, there is a growing new wave school - hard to
>| characterize.
>'---
>
>Elaborate?

Ummm ... classical realism tries to make pictures of objects - and tries to
replicate the object. The "new wave" is up to something very different -
neo-punk bad boys, they are.

Perhaps the world-views are reflected by your in-fighting. There is a
surface argument about an "issue". There is a sub-surface argument between
people with different "artistic objectives".

This is little different than how we might imagine a classical painter
would look at the Comic book art of Rauschenberg (?) - you know, pics from
romance comics? They probably would not argue about art - the classicist
would just simply hate Rauschenberg - perhaps visa versa.

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>.---
>| There are asian influences. There is a type of minimalism often in
>| your sigs.
>'---
>
>I think when you say asian influences that you mean lots of geometric
>patterns - probably because of the ease of using the forward and
>backslashes / \, and that big straight-line thing |.

The statements about Asian influence and minimalism should probably not be
in the same paragraph. They are different, but perhaps related.

About Asian - there is obviously "anime", with the reservation that anime
is not simply about the "imaginary" objects - but also about style.

I grew up in Japan, so I relate to images from Japanese advertising. Look,
for example at:

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Right off the rice-based cereal box from Tokyo.

Another example of Asian influence is in some of the landscapes and trees.

Minimalism is another, but related, matter. There is the obvious minimalism
dictated by the medium. But there is also variation in styles. Some pics
use lots of ascii character codes (letters and numbers). Some use a lot of
periods, comas, apostrophes, etc - more impressionistic, more pointalistic.

Recognize that I am totally out of my league in this discussion. Does
anybody else, but me, think about this stuff? Or do you folks just make
pics?

Your "art galleries" categorize images by the nature of the object -
flowers, animals, etc. Should there be a gallery which categorizes by
styles or techniques?

rayo

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