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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 25 Apr 1998.
Re: pre and center tags

Re: pre and center tags

Colin Douthwaite wrote:
[ 8< ]
> >People are lazy...
> 
> Yeah, and people are also annoying.
> 

Yes  :)

> Why are we having all this HTML discussion stuff in alt.ascii-art ?

Because some of us have homepages where we would like to use html do
display ascii art. To do this in a way that works for everybody is easy,
place the whole thing in <pre></pre>, replace all '&' characters with
'&amp;', then replace all '<' characters with '&lt;'. Some people also
like to replace all '>' with '&gt;' for symmetry.

It is when people want to do more than this by centering, colouring,
animating etc that it gets complicated. We already have
alt.ascii-art.animation where discussions about animating ascii art
belongs. Maybe we need a special group for using ascii art in html? I
don't think this kind of discussion would be very welcome in the html
groups that I know of - I get the impression that most of the people
there regard ascii art as either "obsolete" or "an obstruction of
accessibility"... But I suppose that if we all got our butts over to
alt.html and invaded the place they couldn't exactly kick us out... (but
I doubt we'd find each other in the mess that that group is. Well, I'm
there already anyway...)

> HTML is not Ascii Art but by continually discussing it here it encourages
> others to think that it is Ascii Art. Bah !  Harumph !
> 

Html source is ascii (or very close to it anyway). Html as seen in the
browser is not ascii. Ascii *art* presented with html, except a few
cases that *depend* on colouring, can easily be "converted back" to
"pure" ascii with a simple copy-and-paste.

-- 
              _                                         _
  __   ___.--'_`.  __   __                _           .'_`--.___   __
 ( _`.'. -   'o` ) \ \ / /__ _ _ ___ _ _ (_)__ __ _  ( 'o`   - .`.'_ )
 _\.'_'      _.-'   \ V / -_) '_/ _ \ ' \| / _/ _` |  `-._      `_`./_
( \`. )    //\`      \_/\___|_| \___/_||_|_\__\__,_|    '/\\    ( .'/ )
 \_`-'`---'\\__,                                       ,__//`---'`-'_/
  \`        `-\    uggc://jjj.yhqq.yhgu.fr/hfref/ix/    /-'        '/
   ` _____________________ r93...@fz.yhgu.fr ____________________ '
        LIKE MY SIG? GO HERE: http://www.surfplaza.com/figlet/

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