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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 22 Jul 1998.
Re: Settling the stein argument -- hopefully

Re: Settling the stein argument -- hopefully

Matthew Thomas <mpt...@spamfree.land> wrote:
>Colin Douthwaite wrote:
>> 
>> I am certainly not disputing your claim. I'm asking you to confirm
>> that claim in a message here.

>I have to disagree with you here, Colin. 

That's OK...lotsa people disagree with me...all the time!  *8-)


> If Pete says he invented the steins, surely he's innocent until
> proven guilty?

But that's the crux of the problem. Pete has never unequivocally
said that he invented the Steins, ( Unless your Deja search has also
found that definitive document? ).

And we're not dealing with a criminal or common law legal case
here...this is just lil' ol' Usenet.  Mind you...Pete may take out
patents on his steins, then we can have fun. :-)

Other regular contributors to alt.ascii-art have questioned Pete's
originality...and Pete, in his responses, seems to have always
prevaricated and failed to state his claim unequivocally...which is
easy enough to do.


> Anyway, a quick trip to DejaNews should settle the matter ...

Excellent piece of investigation. Aren't you glad I don't use x-no-
archive-yes?  :-)

I hope you also researched the articles written by critics of Pete's
stein-authenicity?  You are probably too new to this newsgroup to
have seen the actual postings?


> I trust your own words are enough proof for you, Colin? :-D

I am not asking for_proof_.

Proof is almost impossible to establish through this medium and
those who ask for it know that very well when they ask.

The point is that Pete's stein originality has been questioned by
other regular users of alt.ascii-art from time to time.

All I want Pete to do is write a signed affidavit saying he is the
sole originator/author of the Steins.

If he does not wish to do that then that's OK...it's his privilege.

I do _personally_ think that his Stein cartoons _are_ his original
work...but that's irrelevant. If I am going to put something in the
"History of alt.ascii-art" document crediting him with originality
for the "steins"  then I want to be certain that other people are
not going to jump up and down, scream about it, and dispute it when
I post it.

Actually...I'm now very strongly inclined to omit this "hot potato"
from any historical notes I might write in September...who the hell
really cares what I write anyway?

Bye,

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From: Colin Douthwaite <cfb...@southern.co.nz>
Subject: Re: Settling the stein argument -- hopefully
Date: 1998/07/22
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