Re: ASCII Art Fart for Thu, 2004 Nov 25

In <41a...@dnews.tpgi.com.au>, ABCGi wrote:

>>> The facts are that all the unjustified homicides committed in the USA are
>>> committed in violation of some law. More importantly, the vast 
>>> majority of
>>> these unjustified homicides are committed by people who are in possession
>>> of arms that have been attained illegally and committed against unarmed,
>>> law abiding citizens. You can compare the "murder" rate in the USA with
>>> places that doctor their statistics all you want, the meat is in the
>>> overall death rate of a country's citizens - you might want to dig a 
>>> little
>>> deeper on that topic.
>> 
>> 
>> Sharky I doubt this is true, do you have some stats? Death by guns in 
>> the USA by *far* outstrips any other country any way you slice it - was 
>> my impression of the stats.
>> 
>
>Oh I c, you are using the term "unjustified homicides" - which means 
>self-defence doesn't count.

Self defense does indeed "count", at least as far as this classic liberal
is concerned. My belief is that all people are endowed with the freedom to
defend their very life from any and all assailants.

>Still, the proliferation of guns in the US and the attitude toward them 
>can hardly be said to make the US a safer place to live given to the 
>enormous number of gun deaths?

As off'd in a previous post, you really have to delve a bit deeper to
understand the problems attributed to "guns".  The right to arm oneself
against unjust aggression has been one of the cornerstones of Democratic
Governments from the time of first world prominence of its politic.
Blaming the deaths of people on the (otherwise inanimate object) "gun" is
kinda silly, IMHO.

ObAscii - Say hola to my leetle friend, muchacho.


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