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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 29 Mar 2001.
Re: Image to Ascii Competition (was: -Very Simple Java JPG t

Re: Image to Ascii Competition (was: -Very Simple Java JPG to ASCII Converter)

Stuart Moore wrote:
> > If anybody prefers to put up the competition homepage on a different
> > server (Stuart?) I have no problem with that and will support the
> > competition as good as I can.
> 
> ... although I may be able
> to get something together for image submission & voting. I already have a file
> upload script that can probably be adapted to what we need. ...

Ok. Can you start building a competition homepage and set up the upload
process? I think we should start the image suggestion process soon, so
we can see what categories there are and to make plans about how to go
on.

> If you mean someone impartial to agree for disputes, then I'm sure some suitable
> lurkers can come out of the woodwork for this.

That's ok, but we should have settled a judge before we have a quarrel
(although I do not think we will have any). Any volunteers?

> >  - The 10 (?) images with the most votes are the candidates for the
> > competition in stage 3. They will be explicitly made public on the
> > competition homepage and they are given numbers to identify them.
> > Download formats will be JPG, GIF, PNG and BMP (as appropriate).
> 
> The decision process might work better as a discussion here, perhaps with a vote
> on the newsgroup at the end. That way we can ensure that we agree on a fair mix
> of images, e.g. I'd like to see at least one grayscale, some photos and some
> pop-art like images.

A fair mix of images can be asured by division into categories. We can
discuss the categories on the newsgroup, but the vote should take place
on the homepage (or via mail).

> Why not define on each image where the sig should be (e.g. bottom right corner)
> so that everything else is fair comparison?

I would leave that decission to the artist. I think it will not make too
much difference and maybe there are some clever ideas about how to
integrate the sig.

> Also, how about another category for Coloured ASCII (e.g. with HTML) as this
> could be quite effective.

That's ok by me.

> >  - Every person must give his name and e-mail to ensure everybody can
> > vote only once
> 
> Fine, although anyone who wanted to would be able to get extra emails anyway to
> fake it. I think everyone'll have to be on their honour...

By collecting name and email we can at least ensure that nobody hits the
submit button in his browser several times. Of course we will not be
able to handle any kind of manipulation.

> Also, perhaps winners within image categories etc. - e.g. if there was one
> converter that did photos really well, another that was good for bold colour
> changes, another for subtle details etc.

We should not end up with too many winners. But it surely would make
sense to split up to categories. What about only having a first position
in each category and not taking care about second and third? Up to now
we seem to have 5 categories for the conversion and I expect at least 5
categories for the images. This makes 25 winners in the end seems to be
quite fair considering that each converting tool has special benefits
for one or the other category.

Markus

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Subject: Re: Image to Ascii Competition (was: -Very Simple Java JPG to ASCII  
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