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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 22 Jun 1996.
Re: HA-HA!! A CHALLENGE FOR ALL!!

Re: HA-HA!! A CHALLENGE FOR ALL!!

In article <31C...@xs4all.nl>, joris bellenger <svz...@xs4all.nl>
wrote:

> Dan wrote:
> > 
> > Howdy!
> > 
> >   Here's the thing peoples: I need some ascii art for a bbs. The bbs name is
> > "1313 Iconoclast way" or "1313 Iconoclast Station". The bbs doesn't have a
> > logo or a mascot or anything, so it  is up to the artist to decide what
> > they want to draw. My only request is to draw something you can relate to
> > "iconoclast." For anybody wondering, an iconoclast is like a glorified,
> > rebellious idealist. They do what they beleive no matter what the cost.
> >   I hope this poses a challenge to the bored masses of ascii-artists out
> > there. Thanks for anything in advance.
> > 
> 
> 
> Howdy howdy!
> 
> According to my encyclopedy; an iconoclast was a member of an heretic sect,
> during the Byzantine empire (VIII- century), whose purpose was to forbid and 
> distroy holly pictures.
> Today an iconoclast is someone who doesn't care for traditions. Kinda rude
> egotist I'd say. What's glorifying in this I don't know.
> 
> 
> 
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>        |/  ?        SEE YA!
>        | ~ )\       -------
>        /_ /\ \____  joris bellenger (b'ger)
>             ~_/   \ e-mail: svz...@xs4all.nl

hi again,
  According to the world book dictionary:

iconoclast 1. a person who attacks cherised beliefs or institutions which
he/she thinks are wrong or foolish. 2 a person opposed to worshipping
images or who breaks or destroys them. 

The encyclopedia part of my world book says:

iconoclast, has come to mean a person who attacks long-established beliefs. 

Though those in the Byzantine sect you wrote of described themselves as
iconoclasts, the word has, over time, come to mean an idealist and a
rebel. Someone who opposes beliefs he/she thinks are wrong no matter what
the personnal cost. Examples: Bronte's Jane Eyre, Joan of Arc, Bill
clinton (ok, maybe not bill...) Anyway, this kind of
stand-up-in-what-you-beleive-in attitude was what I meant my board to
represent. I'm sorry if you disagree. 

Brad 

p.s. That byzantine sect wasn't heretic; they completely supported the
church. They opposed the worship and veneration of pictures though. This
is why they wanted them destroyed: they thought they took away from the
purity of the church. Calling them egotisical is not all that truthful.

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From: cdm...@datatamers.com (Dan)
Subject: Re: HA-HA!! A CHALLENGE FOR ALL!!
Date: 1996/06/22
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