Re: Crab.

Okay, since the conversation's continuing...I'll put in $0.02 more.

I'm not a regular to this group, and a relative newbie, I'm sure, as
compare to others here (and certainly not as skilled), but I am an
artist in other mediums (including commercial applications) so I'll give
you my opinion on this whole credit and intials thing.

1) Everyone should try to give credit where credit is due...which is all
Joan was trying to do.

2) If someone's art is commissioned (whether payment of any kind is
exchanged or not)  I should think that it would be perfectly alright for
the commissioner to ASK if they could remove any initials or signature
or whatever on the art.

3) If someone's art is posted in the public domain with initials or
signature or whatever...those should be left on unless specific
permission is given by the artist to remove them!

All it takes is the little common courtesy of ASKING, and everything's
probably A-OK with everyone.

This specific issue is not really related to my 3 points above,
however...the art was specifically taken from someone elses' e-mail
signature, modified, and reposted as the stealer's signature...that was
not right - Joan was pointing it out.  Ignore the thread if you don't
like the subject.

There... I said it.

(e-mailed copies of posted responses welcome...see my sig...but don't
steal it!  ;o)

Spunk1111 wrote:
> 
> In article <33F...@ix.netcom.com>, "Tom R. Earlywine"
> <Tre...@ix.netcom.com> writes:
> >Somebody wanted a crab, they had a beeeeauuuutiful sig; I said so; Joan
> >responded that it was stolen (aka orginal initials removed); Kermit the
> >Hog replied that people take sigs off because they're ugly...
> I must've missed something here too....  I responded with a comment
> that a sig was "stolen"???  I don't think so.  I would've responded with
> the fact that initials or sigs should stay with the pics...  I know that the
> pics get sent around quite a bit and that I can't pinpoint the individuals
> who strip the initials-- therefore I don't accuse people of stripping sigs--
> I just try to let them know who the original artist is.
> 
> The only exception has been with AOL...
> I have seen several  occurances on AOL with stolen ASCII pics... for
> some reason, some people on AOL have taken the ASCII art on the
> internet, converted it to their proportional font, and written their sigs on
> the pics while taking the original sigs off.  I have seen my work, Flumps,
> and various other's people's ASCII art now as someone else's AOL "macro"
> I have been fighting that front...
> 
> I'm back and will be posting some more...
> Maybe I'll even get my homepage updated!!!  :)
> -joan
> --
>           ,        ,
>          /(_,    ,_)\          DON'T MESS WITH ME...
>          \ _/    \_ /          I'M A REAL CRAB TODAY!
>          //        \\
>          \\ (@)(@) //          joan stark
>           \'="=="='/           spu...@juno.com
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>      ",===\        /===,"      ASCII art gallery:
>      " ,==='------'===, "      http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/
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I bet the main reason the police keep people away from a plane
crash is they don't want anybody walking in and lying down in some
crash stuff, then, when somebody comes up, act like they just woke
up and go, "What was THAT?!" 
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