Re: what is it?
From Lemming <l3m...@bumblbee.demon.co.uk>
· alt.ascii-art
· 12 Oct 2001 17:00 · View full thread
· report
Peter Henderson <pet...@usa.net> wrote: >anonymous@bogus_address.con wrote: >> On 2001-10-03 l3m...@bumblbee.demon.co.uk said: >> >> > >It's rather easy when you know it really, when a word begins with >> > >a vowel, you say "an" (an apple, an oven, an utter) if it begins >> > >with a consonant, it's always "a" (a pear, a clock, a ship). >> > >It's easy as (a) pie :-)) >> > >> >What about Hour, Hotel, Happy? It's not enough to know that the >> >word starts with a vowel, you have to know it *sounds* as though it >> >starts with a vowel. >> >> In American English, the preferred (and proper) usage is: >> >> =A= hotel >> =A= happy >> =A= hovel >> =A= ham >> =A= herring >> >> ..since in American English, the leading 'h' is almost always >> pronounced. There is no 'dropped-H' Cockney accent in the U.S.A. >> >> 'Hour' is the exception that proves the rule. In American English, >> the leading 'h' in 'hour' is =not= pronounced...so correct usage >> there is '=an= hour.' But that's a rare exception. >> >> > > >How about acronyms like RTF? Is it a RTF file (because R is a consonant) >or an RTF file (because when R is pronounced it startes with a vowel >*sound*)? See http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?ar According to the >dictionary the letter R is spelled "ar" so it really does start with a >vowel, even though it's a consonant. I'm a native English speaker, but >was never taught this... Does anyone have an authoritative answer? I >think it's "an RTF file" based on what I've said...but I need an >authoritative answer to prove my English teacher wrong... :o) I can't be authoritative either, but I'd agree with your summary. IMHO, "a" versus "an" comes in to play as a result of the sound of the words which follows, not the spelling. Hence the apparent contradictions of an FAQ, an X-Ray, or even a UB40. -- Derek Curiosity *may* have killed Schr�dinger's cat.
Original message headers
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: f996b,ef84650dd3e606e5 X-Google-Attributes: gidf996b,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-10-12 09:58:43 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!bumblbee.demon.co.UK!not-for-mail From: Lemming <l3m...@bumblbee.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: alt.ascii-art Subject: Re: what is it? Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 18:00:36 +0100 Lines: 50 Message-ID: <268...@4ax.com> References: <m9q...@4ax.com> <trn...@corp.supernews.com> <3BC...@usa.net> Reply-To: l3m...@bumblbee.demon.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Host: bumblbee.demon.co.uk (158.152.77.76) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1002905918 23648001 158.152.77.76 (16 [16776]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 Xref: archiver1.google.com alt.ascii-art:8551
Related ASCII art in the Gallery
Explore these categories from our collection of 11,000+ artworks:
|HHHHH/"\"\HHHHHHH| |HH`\|_.-)'|/'dP,H| |Hb.`\\_/_//'.oddH| |HHHb|`.\/\,'|HHHH| |HHHHHb/\/\/|HHHHH| |"""""""""""""""""| | |"" /\ \ / |"" | | |__/--\ \/ __| |
_________
/___ ___\
//@@@\ /@@@\\
\\@@@/ \@@@//
\___ " ___/
| - |
\_/ jrjc ______
/|_||_\`.__
( _ _ _\
=`-(_)--(_)-'
hjw .="=. _/.-.-.\_ ( ( o o ) ) |/ " \| \'---'/jgs /`"""`\\
_________ | _____ |\ | |\ ___| | \ | | | | | | | | |___| | | \ | |____\| | \|_________| Andy Johnson
__ _ o'')}____// `_/ ) (_(_/-(_/
Make your own ASCII art
Turn images, text or 3D into ASCII, or draw your own – right in your browser.
About this message.
This message was posted publicly to the newsgroup
alt.ascii-art
in 2001 and is mirrored here unchanged as part of the Historic Archives – only email addresses are masked.
The artwork and text belong to their original authors: if you copy a piece, keep the artist's initials or signature intact and credit them where you can.
Are you the author? Contact us to get your posts attributed, connected to your artist profile, or removed.
Report this message
Help us keep the archive clean and accurate. Reports are reviewed by a person – nothing is changed automatically.