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Original Usenet message from alt.ascii-art, 15 Sep 1996.
Re: [Picture] Dragon art thief exposed

Re: [Picture] Dragon art thief exposed

Allen Mullen (mul...@gate.net) wrote:

: Diane Wenner (pix...@netcom.com) wrote:
:  
: : Today I learned from Alex Wargacki that he is the artist
: : who drew the work below.   [snip]


:    Tua Xiong did some great work. His romantic pictures have been reposted 
: here frequently.
:    This dragon picture always seemed funny to me because it isn't his 
: style. However, I don't think we should conclude he's an "art thief". He 
: may not have been the person who put his name on the picture. I suspect
: someone years ago innocently attributed it to him by mistake.
:    Tua Xiong posted a couple years ago and said he no longer had an 
: Internet account. He was using a friend's account. I doubt he has seen his 
: name attached to the dragon picture.
:    Even if Tua Xiong attached his name to someone else's work (which I 
: doubt), I don't think we should apply a standard used by some today to the 
: past. Attribution is a fairly recent concept for ascii art. Years ago, no 
: one expected their work to live on. Collectors frequently attached their 
: names to others' work and they at least deserve credit for preserving 
: things that otherwise would be lost. The FAQ mentions that crediting work 
: is a new concept. There has never been a requirement for this.
:    It may be counterproductive to get mad at those who don't credit work 
: the way we prefer. I suspect they will be less likely to help identify the
: original author if they are flamed.
:    Most readers of ascii newsgroups like to see pictures posted and rigid 
: attribution standards may intimidate potential posters. I think we should 
: encourage people to post pictures. If they get the attribution correct, 
: that's great. If not, most readers will still enjoy seeing their post and 
: serious collectors can sort out the attribution later.

: Allen
: http://www.afn.org/~afn39695/ascii.htm

Hi Allen,

I agree with everything you said.  I jumped to a conclusion based on 
receiving a strong letter from Alex Wargacki.  I shouldn't have done 
that.  I haven't been involved in ascii long enough; I don't know the 
history of it; and--worst of all--I did not have "proof".

If my first post ever gets back to Tua Xiong, I hope this one does also.  
Tua Xiong, I am deeply sorry for having made a half-assed assumption; it 
never occurred to me that someone might have inadvertently attributed it 
that dragon to you. It is a terrible thing to call someone a "thief" 
publically without positive proof.  I wish I could something to make up 
for it, but I can't.  

It's a good thing I'm typing; it is impossible to speak clearly with both 
feet in one's mouth and one's head up . . . .well, you know what I mean.  

Diane Wenner

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|  Diane Wenner           Silicon Valley    ((~~~?)    |
| <pix...@netcom.com>   California USA   ))(@ @())   !
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Subject: Re: [Picture] Dragon art thief exposed
Date: 1996/09/15
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