Re: What does everyone reckon our chances are for the Euro 2004 qualifying?
From Mark Kent <mar...@NOHAM.otford.kent.btinternet.co.uk>
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Mart van de Wege <mvd...@drebbelstraat20.dyndns.org> espoused: >On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 11:58:56 +0100, bro...@ytp.net wrote: > >> On Tue, 29 Jan 2002 19:20:47 GMT, FinaliDentity <n...@spam.com> wrote: >> >>>"Mirak" <kar...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in >>>news:3c56e685$0$206$626...@news.free.fr: >>> >>>> All taht you say is that france is lucky because they are the first >>>> team to win a world cup and a euro in a row ? AHAHAHAHAHAH Is it luck >>>> to lose only 3-2 against holland with bench players ? >>>> >>>> >>>Let's see, Holland, so "great" a footballing power that ... >>> >>>THEY DIDN'T QUALIFY FOR THE WORLD CUP???!!! Geez, you'd think you could >>>come up with a better example than THAT! :) >> >> Don't you think it's weird that Holland didn't qualify? Perhaps they >> have too many stars which therefore splits the team. When playing their >> best, many believe (incl. me) Holland to be about the best. It's their >> team spirit/sum of egos that's their problem. >> ><snip> > >Ok, one off-topic x-post and I'll shut up. Apologies to all. > >The problem with dutch teams, the national side included, is *mentality*. >We dutch fans, and by extension the coaches and players, like a carefully >structured, tactically intelligent passing game. For this you need a team >with good players (check), a smart coach (check) and good form (always a >variable). > >The ego problem of too many stars and no team exists, but the major >problem is bad form. When the form isn't there, the team can't play its >favourite game, so then it would be time to just go in there and *fight* >for every mm of grass. Unfortunately, we don't have the players with the >right sort of mentality for that style, like the germans and the english. >In fact, teams and players that are able and willing to employ this style >of play are roundly boo-ed by both press and public. Only one major team >in our league has this as its 'house style', and unsurprisingly, it is >widely regarded as an 'ugly' team (Feyenoord Rotterdam). > >Therefore, on good form, the Netherlands can beat anyone, on bad form they >in turn can be beaten by everyone. > Netherlands are always a team to treat with caution and respect. Seem to fall down on penalty shoot-outs, though. Presumably Van Nistelroiy will be key part of next team? -- Mark Kent Take out the ham to mail me.
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