Re: So, You Want To Make Text Art?

Veronica Karlsson <aci...@earthling.net> wrote in message news:386...@earthling.net...
> Krogg wrote:
> > Veronica Karlsson wrote:
> > > JRO wrote:
> > > > And then bothered to give a value explanation for all of them, perhaps going into
> > > > bios-mapping, ect..
> > >
> > > This aaa version of this rant is apparently not quite as nasty as the
> > > one you sent me in email. I quit reading *that* one after the first
> > > paragraph...
> >
> > DAMIT....One of you,please email me a copy of the email
> > version...I want to see the nasty parts.
>
> I'll gladly forward it to the group if its author allows me to do
> that...




I'll save you the trouble. And I'm sure you read it all, since you know
so much about how "nasty" it was. There is little need in trying to fool
folks herethat you didn't, but if you want them all to see, so be it:

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     That was good advice. Most people post or read alt.ascii-art, for
   enjoyment. They don't have Swedish keyboards. They use standard
   ones; 90-something percent of them do. And most new people aren't
   interested in being confronted with this:

  0    1    2    3    4    5    6    7    8    9    A    B    C    D    E    F
0 NUL SOH  STX  ETX  EOT  ENQ  ACK  BEL   BS   HT  LF   VT   FF   CR   SO   SI
1 DLE DC1  DC2  DC3  DC4  NAK  SYN  ETB  CAN   EM  SUB  ESC  FS   GS   RS   US
2 SP  !     "    #    $    %    &    '    (    )    *    +    ,   -    .    /
3 0   1     2    3    4    5    6    7    8    9    :    ;    <   =    >    ?
4 @   A     B    C    D    E    F    G    H    I    J    K    L   M    N    O
5 P   Q     R    S    T    U    V    W    X    Y    Z    [    \   ]    ^    _
6 `   a     b    c    d    e    f    g    h    i    j    k    l   m    n    o
7 p   q     r    s    t    u    v    w    x    y    z    {    |   }    ~   DEL

They would like a plain, simple explanation. The simpler, the better. Their
interest in text-art is for pure entertainment. They need basic help, that is easy
and entertaining to read. That's how you interest people in text art - not by
confronting them with a set of "rules", and no real how-to advice.

     Many people have read those tutorials. People who read them, like them;
better than your "facks". They write me email, and send me their "art".
Some of them, you even know...

     Those things have been asked for, and are posted on art sites that aren't
ascii sites, at all. The latest being http://www.artcenter.ac/ It's some
new link exchange, or whatever... Doesn't look like much, to me. Sorry I
haven't kept the addys of a few better artsites, but there are some
that have them. Real, live, money-making graphic artists have asked me for
those things, and thanked me for them, too. And they all damned the "facks".

     When you confront a total newbie with your precious facks, how many come
back and make text art? How many go make text art on a web page, or in
emails, or on IRC? Just about none. The way those things are practically
"thrown" at people with a budding or passing interest in ascii, pretty
much lets them know this is NOT a friendly newsgroup. On the other hand,
I have had remarkable success with answering questions in email to
people who are interested in text art. They are all pretty unanimous in
adding that they didn't find the fucking facks of any help, at all. And
they all like my tutorials. Many of them actually go on and make text art.

    Your advice isn't "bad". It's just badly presented, and doesn't take into
account the fact that most people who are interested in ascii just want to make
it, and have a little fun. They are pure beginners (at ascii). Maybe your tech
advice and those facks will be of interest to them, later on, but for beginners,
having those things sent or reposted to them, is a little like a rude slap in
the face. All they want is some basic directions - the kind that fits 99% of
them - and a little basic "how-to", to get them started on their own ideas.

    Your "not intended to be bad" advice, doesn't interest or promote the
beginner ascii artist - it discourages him. Those "faqs" present people with a
list of "rules", which come across as if they were some kind of edict, or demand.
They are no fun to read. They contain no "how-to" demonstrations. They leave
even a new enthusiast with a chill. I see no use for the damn things, except for
the advanced ascii text artist who doesn't need to read them anyway, and even
he/she/it is bound to be bored by them.

    If you don't like my tutorials, don't read them. You may think they are
"bad", but your opinion merely suffers from a lack of understanding. Ascii
art is merely entertainment, not some deep, technical pursuit. People want
to make it, or look at it, for fun. It's no fun to wade through some techy
document, and receive a set of "laws" that they "better not break". That
just turns people off. My tutorials don't turn people off. Look at Peter
Punk's repost - he says, "This is great!" NO ONE ever said that about those
fucking facks. But I hear that, all the time. I'm glad I posted the things
to aaa, if for no other reason, than to garnish one enthusiastic reply...

.... Which is why you chose to flame my tutorial, of course. I suggest
you refrain yourself from doing that. Try setting your news reader to
block my posts, if you can't stay off without correkting me. Or flame me some
more, and the result might be that you will wish you had kept your incorrect
opinions to yourself.


    The choice is yours. I can be very friendly, or not. You are the one
that determines that.


Be good,
Johnny

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Too bad Pete won't hang around, to keep you entertained. Without him,
you're just a troll, Veronica. Either behave, or go run new reader/posters
off some other newsgroup. This one is small enough, without your working to
make it smaller.


JRO

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